Auto Culty - Disable Drops
heerohex#3018
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when you are using auto culty DQ Drops or drops should be disabled - This way DQ could be returned to normal and DQ Points could be put in with out any big issues. This would also allow people to Farm DQ when playing their toon and Get coin back to cover repair costs when questing ETC.
I use auto culty but would not be bothered by this loss of DQ drops when using it as I only use it to complete quests. Coin should of course still drop as this is such a small amount it will neither give or take.
What do people think to this? Log Or not?
I use auto culty but would not be bothered by this loss of DQ drops when using it as I only use it to complete quests. Coin should of course still drop as this is such a small amount it will neither give or take.
What do people think to this? Log Or not?
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Just irrealistic.
The chinese staff didn't change the cost of DQ to 1coin because of autoculti but because of tierce party bots.~ Sage Mystic 105-105-105 ~
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Zoldi - Morai wrote: »Just irrealistic.
The chinese staff didn't change the cost of DQ to 1coin because of autoculti but because of tierce party bots.
Fair point...
So your saying you would not like this?0 -
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So your saying you would not like this?
I won't say I'm against the proposition, because US/EU have never been (and will probably never been) invaded by unofficial bots like chinese servers, so it wouldn't be that much a problem here. But they will never do that on chinese servers I guess and I don't think PWE will do anything on their side. Besides I don't think this is something important anyway 'cause there are other ways to get money.~ Sage Mystic 105-105-105 ~
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~ Sage Cleric 102 ~ Demon Wizard 101 ~
~ Sage Seeker 101 ~ Sage Psy 101 ~
~ Sage Heavy Veno 101 ~ Demon Storm 9X ~ Dusk 6x ~
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lol @ you people thinking people didn't use hordes of 3rd party bots here. Not as bad as CN, but certain places were lulzy in the amount of them.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »lol @ you people thinking people didn't use hordes of 3rd party bots here. Not as bad as CN, but certain places were lulzy in the amount of them.
This is really something the GMs should be dealing with! They dont want them they should get rid of them! Harsh but fair to the players.0 -
The GMs can't even keep world chat clean, and you expect them to clean up 3rd party bots?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Mayfly - Dreamweaver wrote: »The GMs can't even keep world chat clean, and you expect them to clean up 3rd party bots?
you dont need to constantly be in game to sort out bots. Its their game their resource. All im saying is if you have a BIG issue what do you do with it... Tackle it so it hurts the minimum amount of people or just do whats easy... Well point in that one right.
Listen its a suggestion in any case. IF this is not what people want me to suggest then say. So negative about the point and bring down the rain poors functions.0 -
when you are using auto culty DQ Drops or drops should be disabled - This way DQ could be returned to normal and DQ Points could be put in with out any big issues. This would also allow people to Farm DQ when playing their toon and Get coin back to cover repair costs when questing ETC.
And then people start using third party bots again, and the cheaters will once again have a massive coin advantage.
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Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »lol @ you people thinking people didn't use hordes of 3rd party bots here. Not as bad as CN, but certain places were lulzy in the amount of them.
I personaly didn't say there were none. But "hordes" seems not appropriated for Morai server.
On Morai there were (still are) maybe 15-20 of them, while in China you can talk about several hundreds.~ Sage Mystic 105-105-105 ~
~ Sage Sin 103-103-102 ~
~ Sage vita Barb 103-102-101 ~
~ Sage BM 102-101 ~ Demon Archer 102 ~
~ Sage Cleric 102 ~ Demon Wizard 101 ~
~ Sage Seeker 101 ~ Sage Psy 101 ~
~ Sage Heavy Veno 101 ~ Demon Storm 9X ~ Dusk 6x ~
Started playing this game in 2007 on Oracle (PW-MY) : Demon MG 101 - Sage EP 99 - WF 890 -
This is really something the GMs should be dealing with! They dont want them they should get rid of them! Harsh but fair to the players.
You can't simply kill those bots... Unless you catch them life, anb make sure that they are bots you're kinda screwed with it... and being realistic, GM's won't spend their time patroling usual bot areas (if they know which areas are those, QQ) and make a reserch with every single bot out there...
About other sistems? I've played other games, with HUGE botters, and they started adding logging code (people carrying 10.000 alts.... yeah), bots bypassed the code using an OCR...
They added codes for ATACKING! lol (imagine a code to be able to come out of sz or something like that... and they allso bypassed it...
They even forced real mails by verifying all accounts in game... massive verification was done by those bots...
And trust me, it was a kid's joke to bypass all those security measures, and the game was half as big as Pwi
They can't stop bots, no way. Plain and simple, it's easier to make a bot than to stop it, programers doing bots are 10x skilled (or have 10x more time to focus) than PWI admins...
So they just nerf all posible botting benefit and that's all
I'm asuming the upcoming patch that nerfs the daily quest and bh reward for substances is also related to bots, since they can simplly spam that dialy and get a **** ton of Substances, for example
And hey, let's guess, nerf on plant-farming and apo making someday soon? It's the only sweet spot left for bots on PWCN so far0 -
when you are using auto culty DQ Drops or drops should be disabled - This way DQ could be returned to normal and DQ Points could be put in with out any big issues. This would also allow people to Farm DQ when playing their toon and Get coin back to cover repair costs when questing ETC.
I use auto culty but would not be bothered by this loss of DQ drops when using it as I only use it to complete quests. Coin should of course still drop as this is such a small amount it will neither give or take.
What do people think to this? Log Or not?
Your all missing the point to this thread and debating about whether Bots can be controlled. I gotta ask y? This would help many players and in some cases stop new players from leaving but so far all people have done is moan about bots and how PWI could control them...
Ill just brush this idea I think as clearly no one wants to make coin using DQ...0 -
And that -is- the proper way to do it. Destroy the incentive to cheat and the cheating programs - and cheaters - vanish on their own. After a liberal amount of crying on the forum of course... Making money with DQ items is fine heero, but understand that as long as it can be done by third party botting, it just invites that form of cheating again.Socqar - Lost City wrote: »So they just nerf all posible botting benefit and that's all
Better option: Bump the coin rewards for completing the Dragon Quests so that those become a high-level alternative to Jolly Jones. Since they involve travel to random locations and fighting, they are hard to create a bot for. That way the DQ items will see some use, and people might start selling DQ91 items on cats and whatnot.I'm so P.R.O... I Press Respawn Often.
Ulsyr 103/103/104 BM. Working on the last R9 part (Axe).
Khelvan 103/103/103 LA Cler. LA? LA. Deal with it.
Evryn 103/102/101 Sagely Mystical Myst of Mystiness.
Gromth 102/102/102 Sage Panda.
StoneSnake - Snakeshop for everyone's common stones.0 -
Evryn - Morai wrote: »Better option: Bump the coin rewards for completing the Dragon Quests so that those become a high-level alternative to Jolly Jones. Since they involve travel to random locations and fighting, they are hard to create a bot for. That way the DQ items will see some use, and people might start selling DQ91 items on cats and whatnot.
Fair point.. I prefer to make use of items already in the game!0
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