All New Fashion Contest [Example included]

morenawolf wrote: »

Important question for Sparky!

I've got the explanation of the template. I have only one question: can I add watermark to the picture, so I can protect it from art thieves? The watermark will contain a image and the url of my site. Otherwise I really won't partecipate, I can't loose my time and waste my skills and professionality with something that will be stealed and nobody will care.

In other words: who will keep the copyright of the submitted image? Me, PW games, you, the president?

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morenawolf wrote: »

Knowing this, I won't partecipate. I'm a professional artist, I would never sell my art for 50 euros (that's the price of 50 golds in Europe, even less in America), expecially thinking that I should create a very complex work made by 3 different images. And I would loose the copyright of my art even if I would not win the contest.

Sorry but no. Have fun.

I think you exaggerate the "danger" coming from PWE concerning copyrights. This is mostly done to protect themselves from some artist who see their work mentioned somewhere in news page and use it to say "Ahaaaaa! You use my work, now pay me!" b:chuckle I have never seen PWE using people's artworks or forbidding to publish them on their own sites. They have enough official payed arts from PWCN for that.

As for participating and timing, of course no one forces you to lose time on art for minimal payment (without actual guarantee, because you get prize if you win). It's up to you.
I must say gold prizes motivate a lot Tho PWE has started to give gold for it only recently. Before it was mostly mounts, fashion, mice, keyboards and something else I don't remember...

Imagine if you posted something on here..then PWE owns it..if someone loves the design and gets PWE's permission to use it(or buy it) and makes money off it it, the original artist doesn't get the credit for it.

I have already posted enough on this site b:chuckle If I don't evaluate my work that high to try to sell it instead of simply publishing, I won't rage if someone actually makes money on it. Would be only flattering
What would I totaly dislike (and not only me I believe) is signing someone else's work with your name. But this contravenes the law of any country.

Marengo - Lost City wrote: »

If I don't evaluate my work that high to try to sell it instead of simply publishing, I won't rage if someone actually makes money on it. Would be only flattering

I really could not see this as flattering. It would be a theft in any case, and someone would get free money from my work. It would be like spit on my face. Try to imagine the same situation in real life: you're in the park making small paintings. While you're distracted someone take them and sell them in a shop for hundred euros, takes the money and walk away. How would you feel?
This actually happened to me... but I didn't had the money to sue the site that used my works without permission. I still feel very, very angered for this episode, and we're just talking about small pixel images. Small images worth stealing and use on a site that earn money from users and advertisement. It's a matter of moral. I even feel disgusted by the idea of publish my works on Facebook, even if it should be the first move for a freelance artist who search visibility. Their TOE are not pretty about intellectual property... sigh. Internet is a horrible place.

morenawolf wrote: »

I'm a professional artist, I would never sell my art for 50 euros

Aurantiumina - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Usually the things one does "for fun" end up being the best pieces, and no artist wants to waste their work, specially if it's beautiful

morenawolf wrote: »

Of course I draw for fun, the most of time. But I own those works and my free time. And it doesn't mean I'm ok with loosing the authorship of my works, and be legally forbidden to use them for commercial profit just because I published them on a forum. I studied hard to reach the knowledge I have right now, and I'm not disposed to give 10 years of my life away for free. Because that's what is any piece of art I make: a piece of my life.

Try to ask to concept artists how much they earned to make all the amazing paintings on the loading screen of PWI. Much more than 50 euros for sure. Art contest are a funny way to make advertisement and get art for free. If people are ok with this and they make it for the glory then ok, time is yours. But I can't write on my curriculum that I won a contest for PWE, and virtual currency is not even a real payement.

Now please, let me clarify that this is my personal opinion. Many professionals join contests and they're happy to see their entries published and used from famous companies. I'm simply not one of them. And I guess the most part of people who will join this contest are not professionals, they just do it for fun, which is absolutely the best.

I'll send you a pm with my site

morenawolf wrote: »

I really could not see this as flattering. It would be a theft in any case, and someone would get free money from my work. It would be like spit on my face.

Try to imagine the same situation in real life: you're in the park making small paintings. While you're distracted someone take them and sell them in a shop for hundred euros, takes the money and walk away. How would you feel?

Desdi - Sanctuary wrote: »

I'm still confused... is this a contest where we have to draw fashion or mix & match PWI fashion and edit the screenshot? o.o