Affordable blademaster endgame gear?

kelkonerrii · October 2014

http://pwcalc.com/c0b64ac489ad4810
this is what I have so far. I haven't decided on my belt/neck yet...and before you PvPers say things like, "Oh get rrr9 it's farmable it just takes a while or you can just pay for it" no. I want Nv3. I have a life and I am a high school girl, I can't afford it, money and time. Plus, this is a good time to add in that I'm not PvP'ing.

I want more HP without sacrificing what I already have, but I don't know...x_x
I went for a full axe/ham build, put enough str just for my weapon, and when I get rb and stuff I plan to use the extra attribute points on dex so I can possibly use claws in the future. Basically, this is like my final vitality points I'm ever going to invest in. Is it the right choice? ;o;

Thank you all~

opkossy · October 2014

Firstly... I'm assuming you're a demon here as you don't actually tell us and don't have any passives enabled in your calc.

With that out of the way: Try aiming for something like http://pwcalc.com/3a358c26a6653dcf based on what you've said.

It's full G16 +6. Uses a warsong belt (you should be able to get it without too much trouble as you're running warsong for the badges, molds, and such anyways) and a basic cube neck as well. I actually downgraded all your shards from incomparables to perfects and had my calc assume only 3 sockets on everything instead of the 4 you've used. It also has been swapped from the pure vit build you mentioned to having 5 base vit and just enough dex for claws with your gear bonuses. It does not, however, use any of the leftover stat points or account for the extra points you'd get from reawakening.

The results are as follows in comparison to your original calc (both self-buffed)

Pros:
Slightly more attack/pdef/mdef
Greater crit
More attack/defense levels
Greater accuracy

Cons:
57 less HP
Has unused stat points/sockets that could be used to improve it if I weren't being so lazy.

In short: There's no real reason to have so much vit for the HP. You'll get it from your gear incredibly easily. Getting min dex for claws so you can at least use skills from all your weapon paths is a good idea as well. Feel free to comment on your likes and dislikes of the calc thing.

kelkonerrii · October 2014

OPKossy wrote: »

Firstly... I'm assuming you're a demon here as you don't actually tell us and don't have any passives enabled in your calc.

With that out of the way: Try aiming for something like http://pwcalc.com/3a358c26a6653dcf based on what you've said.

It's full G16 +6. Uses a warsong belt (you should be able to get it without too much trouble as you're running warsong for the badges, molds, and such anyways) and a basic cube neck as well. I actually downgraded all your shards from incomparables to perfects and had my calc assume only 3 sockets on everything instead of the 4 you've used. It also has been swapped from the pure vit build you mentioned to having 5 base vit and just enough dex for claws with your gear bonuses. It does not, however, use any of the leftover stat points or account for the extra points you'd get from reawakening.

The results are as follows in comparison to your original calc (both self-buffed)

Pros:
Slightly more attack/pdef/mdef
Greater crit
More attack/defense levels
Greater accuracy

Cons:
57 less HP
Has unused stat points/sockets that could be used to improve it if I weren't being so lazy.

In short: There's no real reason to have so much vit for the HP. You'll get it from your gear incredibly easily. Getting min dex for claws so you can at least use skills from all your weapon paths is a good idea as well. Feel free to comment on your likes and dislikes of the calc thing.

Woah! This is really good! Yeah, I might have left some stuff out (kind of a noob, not really familiar with lots of things yet), I am going demon. It's a good thing your stats get wiped when you rb, because I've been using lots and lots of vit ;v;
Thank you soooo much, I love this build! I'll do really well with it!
I honestly didn't even know I could make the stats way better, lol.

opkossy · October 2014

It's fine, we were all new once and the whole point of asking is to learn about where you can improve.

Glad I was able to help you out a bit! Between reawakening passives, nuema, meridian, and war avatar cards, your stats will actually wind up being much higher than what that calc shows as well. There were some other minor improvements I could make (IE: Using a better tome, adding engravements, and so on) but I think it covers the general look for a G16 BM that doesn't have moderately affordable refines and shards.

Viktorian - Archosaur · October 2014

dual hammers. interesting

anyway Full g16 is great for tanking more hits especially in Abba where the rocks are or other places where bms have to get hit. however you might want to consider getting another set of Lionheart boots and wrists(or ashuras, someone said that was better at some point)(the tt99s) and Awakened Ashuras/Lionheart legs, for any nice solo work youll be doing.(just read your post again and this will be more for when you have claws/fists) Also you might want to (Just for Fun) on your first Rebirth restat to no vit and pure str/dex build such as sakubatou(i think its him anyway) lists in his guide. just to try it and see if you like it. If you dont your always free to switch back to a more vit build on your second rebirth.

opkossy · October 2014

So you CAN post without your colors...

Mind = Blown

Viktorian - Archosaur · October 2014

i cant use colors on my phone QQ so i hop on a computer and switch colors then back to phone

WannaBM - Archosaur · October 2014

Kossy's post is great.

However, i do think you should not throw vit out of the window if you arent rebirthed yet. Vit is good while you are still working on your gear and you can restat to pure str when you rebirth.

Notice that for example 100 vit with +5 armors and a +10 weapon will yield a better result* than no vit and +7 everything. Therefore basically vit is imo the best choise until you got your weapon to +10 and your armors higher than +5. Of course you can do it a bit earlier if you are rebirthing to prevent the need for restat stones.

*these are just some quick example numbers. In the past, i have made calculations multiple times to prove this point where i used more exact numbers that represent an equal amount of money spent on either the weapon or the armors (ie 6* +6 & +7 vs 1* + 7 to +10)

Slivaf - Dreamweaver · October 2014

OPKossy wrote: »

Firstly... I'm assuming you're a demon here as you don't actually tell us and don't have any passives enabled in your calc.

With that out of the way: Try aiming for something like http://pwcalc.com/3a358c26a6653dcf based on what you've said.

It's full G16 +6. Uses a warsong belt (you should be able to get it without too much trouble as you're running warsong for the badges, molds, and such anyways) and a basic cube neck as well. I actually downgraded all your shards from incomparables to perfects and had my calc assume only 3 sockets on everything instead of the 4 you've used. It also has been swapped from the pure vit build you mentioned to having 5 base vit and just enough dex for claws with your gear bonuses. It does not, however, use any of the leftover stat points or account for the extra points you'd get from reawakening.

The results are as follows in comparison to your original calc (both self-buffed)

Pros:
Slightly more attack/pdef/mdef
Greater crit
More attack/defense levels
Greater accuracy

Cons:
57 less HP
Has unused stat points/sockets that could be used to improve it if I weren't being so lazy.

In short: There's no real reason to have so much vit for the HP. You'll get it from your gear incredibly easily. Getting min dex for claws so you can at least use skills from all your weapon paths is a good idea as well. Feel free to comment on your likes and dislikes of the calc thing.

That isn't entirely accurate, vit DOES add BOTH physical and magic resistance. Nor does your build for dex/nothing in vit do anything for more attack. (Unless of course she... or he uses the left over points for strength.)

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Though really I do agree with that build instead, despite my choice to go with vit build, either way can't go wrong in either choice. Especially for pve. (All weapon path bms FTW!)

Zanryu - Lothranis · October 2014

All dex no vit baby!!!!!!!

Artn - Archosaur · October 2014

Zanryu - Lothranis wrote: »

All dex no vit baby!!!!!!!

Real plebs doesn't have enough str for gears without tome.

opkossy · October 2014

Slivaf - Dreamweaver wrote: »

That isn't entirely accurate, vit DOES add BOTH physical and magic resistance. Nor does your build for dex/nothing in vit do anything for more attack. (Unless of course she... or he uses the left over points for strength.)

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Though really I do agree with that build instead, despite my choice to go with vit build, either way can't go wrong in either choice. Especially for pve. (All weapon path bms FTW!)

I don't get what you're trying to say here.

Yes, vit adds slightly to pdef/mdef... but my calc had a greater pdef/mdef than OP's did. Same with slightly more attack even though I downgraded to use of only one garnet in the weapon. And, as stated, I left room for improvement viia manner of leftover stat points, downgaded shards, and 3sockets instead of 4 (among things like engraves and the like).

Slivaf - Dreamweaver · October 2014

OPKossy wrote: »

I don't get what you're trying to say here.

Yes, vit adds slightly to pdef/mdef... but my calc had a greater pdef/mdef than OP's did. Same with slightly more attack even though I downgraded to use of only one garnet in the weapon. And, as stated, I left room for improvement viia manner of leftover stat points, downgaded shards, and 3sockets instead of 4 (among things like engraves and the like).

Their calc was missing your added bonuses from the necklace/belt, and change to demon axe passive, was even missing the additions with various buffs.

Really if op stayed with their current build/shards and just got the neck/belt you suggested, their phys def/mag def would be higher than your build. Their build even has more hp when you add in the missing elements (the belt/neck)/removal of the perfect citrine shards/adding back in their stats.

Zanryu - Lothranis · October 2014

Artn - Archosaur wrote: »

Real plebs doesn't have enough str for gears without tome.

It's a really old DW thing man. Back from the days I actually played Cleric. huehuehuehue

No but really, there's pretty much zero point in going vit. 3 str/2 dex per level until you cap yourself at 200 dex (or 200-dex from tome) is perfectly fine for anything you'll ever need. If you ever want to get into serious PvP, with end game gear and all that, then you should wind up with 255 Dex so Emperor bumps you to 300.

Vitality is meh, you can survive everything just fine anyway.

Source: I've played 2 BMs from 1-100+ with unrefined gear until level 90, which I refined to +2/3.

Slivaf - Dreamweaver · October 2014

Zanryu - Lothranis wrote: »

No but really, there's pretty much zero point in going vit.

Vitality is meh, you can survive everything just fine anyway.

Essentially I agree with you, albeit I still love my extra vit/magic resistance I get from my build, whatever works for each person. ^^

All path bms ftw!

Zanryu - Lothranis · October 2014

Slivaf - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Essentially I agree with you, albeit I still love my extra vit/magic resistance I get from my build, whatever works for each person. ^^

All path bms ftw!

Brb going full Vit for TW to troll

Artn - Archosaur · October 2014

Zanryu - Lothranis wrote: »

Brb going full Vit for TW to troll

Get me Emperor tome and full +12 and I'll restat to just enough str/dex to just wear my gears with tome and dump rest into vit.

Zanryu - Lothranis · October 2014

Artn - Archosaur wrote: »

Get me Emperor tome and full +12 and I'll restat to just enough str/dex to just wear my gears with tome and dump rest into vit.

I feel like this plan would be far more effective if I did it instead of you

Artn - Archosaur · October 2014

Zanryu - Lothranis wrote: »

I feel like this plan would be far more effective if I did it instead of you

Give me a reason why it would be!

HideYoHubby - Archosaur · October 2014

Artn - Archosaur wrote: »

Give me a reason why it would be!

If I remember the convo correctly it would bump his hp to 40k+.

Affordable blademaster endgame gear?

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