Territory Resource War on PVE servers... wow

Asterelle - Sanctuary
Asterelle - Sanctuary Posts: 930 Arc User
edited August 2014 in General Discussion
So we got this new event. Everyone participating in the event gets yellow faction title and can PK without penalty.

You'd think that would force PK on PVE servers but NOPE. Blue names can participate.
Not only can they participate but they can:
-Kill carts
-Kill Resource Bases
-Use the immune skill on carts

They can do everything and can't be countered. The strategy this promotes is stupid:

It's literally impossible to defend a resource base against a blue name of any level DDing in a macro.
It's impossible to stop a blue name from camping a cart spawn and 1 shotting the carts as they spawn unless you somehow select the cart first and channel the immune item.

This event is a totally stupid and broken on PVE servers. This is like having a blue name enter TW, carrying the cata to the HQ, then standing there till the HQ dies.

After I max out the nuema from this I see no point in participating.
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  • Salari - Raging Tide
    Salari - Raging Tide Posts: 2,102 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    how much nuema did you get?
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  • Fail_BM - Raging Tide
    Fail_BM - Raging Tide Posts: 929 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    PvP content is always broken for PvE servers.

    I doubt they did care to test anything pvp related before sending it here, because they don't have PvE servers.
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  • Aubree - Dreamweaver
    Aubree - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,868 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    That's actually awesome. I'm like the only person in my faction. I can participate.
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary
    Asterelle - Sanctuary Posts: 930 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Salari - Raging Tide wrote: »
    how much nuema did you get?
    My faction got 950 Soldier's pay for everyone (officers get more). 40 soldier pay buys a Nuema Origin Tier 6 of your choice (249 nuema). That's basically a week's worth of nuema.
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  • FaceRolI - Sanctuary
    FaceRolI - Sanctuary Posts: 450 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    lol I was curious how PWE was going to put all characters into pk mode for only 2 hours... guess we found out.

    does PWCN only have pvp servers? cause then this would make sense as we all know how good PWE is at coding...

    to people who do know about computer stuffs. approximately how hard of a task is it to make this event work correctly on a pve server? that means at least making it so blue names cannot participate?
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  • GreenLegend - Archosaur
    GreenLegend - Archosaur Posts: 343 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    So... in short, any one that is blue-named prior to this event, they're somewhat immune to attacks?


    Also, how long did it last?
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  • Xaner - Dreamweaver
    Xaner - Dreamweaver Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    In dreamweaver event lasted for an hour...
    Since we are a PvE server we had this "issue' aswell.....
    Tbh its not really an issue and it just makes it a Super free event. I turned off white mode halfway in...

    +... The event itself only last 10- mins.... Rest of the 50 mins is spamming the 10 second immune item on carts....

    But hey. Since carts get 1 shot by a g15 person vortexing tent, can just go off and afk those 50 mins and come back with 1k+ tokens in your mailbox. Yay for free sutras and squad signets.
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited August 2014
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  • DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver
    DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    >mfw people surprised
    >wanting to force pk on a pve server for an event
    >going to work, ever

    If they can make it work as intended (force pk for the event and auto turn-off pk after it) i'll applaud them.

    I'm not holding my breath though b:laugh

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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    This...doesn't really surprise me. But this is probably their record on a messed up event on PvE servers.

    Not sure if I should feel sad or laugh at this.
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  • DarkSkiesx - Dreamweaver
    DarkSkiesx - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,355 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Agreed, atm it's a lame pve event. Hope they can fix it, but I'm not holding my breath.

    The 100 spirit and 20% crit damage taken reduction pots are pretty sweet though.

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  • HideYoHubby - Archosaur
    HideYoHubby - Archosaur Posts: 995 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    FaceRolI - Sanctuary wrote: »
    lol I was curious how PWE was going to put all characters into pk mode for only 2 hours... guess we found out.

    does PWCN only have pvp servers? cause then this would make sense as we all know how good PWE is at coding...

    to people who do know about computer stuffs. approximately how hard of a task is it to make this event work correctly on a pve server? that means at least making it so blue names cannot participate?

    Not saying I know much but Id expect it would be extremely easy to fix blue names from participating. Make all the npcs like most npcs we got, where blue names cant attack them while white names can. The reason why most vana squads had ppl in PK mode, using npcs as chiposts.
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  • Clergywoman - Raging Tide
    Clergywoman - Raging Tide Posts: 262 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    rofl.
    there is another "gltich" that could be used to somewhat fix this gigantic ** up.
    the mobs that spawn behind the wagon after "assault on sky owl" can only be attacked in pvp mode. move that gltich to the carts of the event. *visual help for devs*
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  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited August 2014
    Wait...wait..wait, so they don't port you into a free PK zone like cube and nation wars? Since nation wars they've really not bothered making things work correctly for PVE servers. b:lipcurl

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  • Kymraja - Raging Tide
    Kymraja - Raging Tide Posts: 130 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    was actually looking forward the event, but this....lol

    oh well, time to carebear farm nuemas
  • XXHotXx - Morai
    XXHotXx - Morai Posts: 1,246 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    the event should force white name with no pk penalties

    this is just **** lol

    cmooooooon pwi i had great expectations for this event....
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  • mol1
    mol1 Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    That random day and this timezone only its stupid2.
    Atleast we need a different way to get that 100spirit and 20%crit dmg reduction buff.
  • $picylovah - Sanctuary
    $picylovah - Sanctuary Posts: 267 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    not to mention it took about 5 minutes to cap out on all activities n the rest of the event was really just randomly PKing without any objective ^^ o well, I had a lil bit of fun at least b:cute
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  • Verenor - Morai
    Verenor - Morai Posts: 699 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Just lol? I honestly don't mind it since we could use a week's worth of Nuema's to catch up (and especially if you can pick for which slot), though I do hope they will fix it soon to make it actual Resource "War". For now and tonight, it's just hilarious
  • SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver
    SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,225 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I do agree that anyone participating should be in PK mode...PvE server or not.

    How it is now...is not fair at all.

    Hmmmm. Guess I'll create a faction and try it.
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  • jwillson123
    jwillson123 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Nah leave it that way.
    I prefer to be paid and not been humiliated in this event like I get in NW by been one shotted or doing 3 digit damage to the heavy cash shoppers.
    NW is enough already.
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I will laugh the day they will turn all PVE servers into PVP servers cause more and more the updates are made for PVP servers.

    I wonder if the devs will give a **** enough to go change that for our dear PWI's PVE servers.
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  • Azura - Lost City
    Azura - Lost City Posts: 2,281 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Well that's really messed up. And I don't think that will be fixed because in China there is only PvP servers. In fact the only solution is to make all servers PvP.
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  • Veneir - Dreamweaver
    Veneir - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,541 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »
    I will laugh the day they will turn all PVE servers into PVP servers cause more and more the updates are made for PVP servers.

    I wonder if the devs will give a **** enough to go change that for our dear PWI's PVE servers.

    Really might as well....
    The other instance that we got which was made specifically for players to be in PvP mode wasn't fixed, either. That was the veno instance. But unlike that one, this is more than just one class and the current system is an exploit so the likeliness it'll be fixed is... slightly higher. +.5
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  • Verenor - Morai
    Verenor - Morai Posts: 699 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Azura - Lost City wrote: »
    -snipped stuff about changing pvp/pve servers-
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »
    -snipped stuff about changing pvp/pve servers-

    How about No.

    Caravan Quest daily is also a PvP-only event yet they made it available for PvE servers. The same trick could be done on resource carts (unable to hit/dmg while bluenamed). Think first before you randomly toss around changing servers into their counterpartsb:angry


    Morai server current status on this event: non-existent. Yesterday it wasn't available, and now it is 20:11 and 0 factions that own lands are able to start Plunder event.
    Morai server missing out on 25 nuema's, 12 primal bloods or 50% towards a fancy flyer. GG
  • Veneir - Dreamweaver
    Veneir - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,541 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Verenor - Morai wrote: »
    How about No.

    Caravan Quest daily is also a PvP-only event yet they made it available for PvE servers. The same trick could be done on resource carts (unable to hit/dmg while bluenamed). Think first before you randomly toss around changing servers into their counterpartsb:angry


    Morai server current status on this event: non-existent. Yesterday it wasn't available, and now it is 20:11 and 0 factions that own lands are able to start Plunder event.
    Morai server missing out on 25 nuema's, 12 primal bloods or 50% towards a fancy flyer. GG

    ...I don't really think it's random or unfounded to at least suggest. As stands there are quite a few issues that would be nulled by making all the servers PvP...
    However it would probably make quite a few people quit and PWE doesn't want to lose their money, so they'll just keep getting problems with patches/content from 100% PvP china-game instead.
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  • Verenor - Morai
    Verenor - Morai Posts: 699 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Veneir - Dreamweaver wrote: »


    ...I don't really think it's random or unfounded to at least suggest. As stands there are quite a few issues that would be nulled by making all the servers PvP...
    However it would probably make quite a few people quit and PWE doesn't want to lose their money, so they'll just keep getting problems with patches/content from 100% PvP china-game instead.

    It's perfectly unfounded to suggest a server to be made PvP due to a mechanic that a) already exists, b) only affects one event and c) doesn't even require new coding from China. Grab code from Caravan Quest, stuff it on the Cart (easier said than done, but I'm not going to elaborate on the whole thing in this thread obviously).
    It's simply blind and quite frankly obnoxious to be shouting that servers should be changed over something that can be fixed so easily.
  • buttercandy
    buttercandy Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    So we got this new event. Everyone participating in the event gets yellow faction title and can PK without penalty.

    You'd think that would force PK on PVE servers but NOPE. Blue names can participate.
    Not only can they participate but they can:
    -Kill carts
    -Kill Resource Bases
    -Use the immune skill on carts

    They can do everything and can't be countered. The strategy this promotes is stupid:

    It's literally impossible to defend a resource base against a blue name of any level DDing in a macro.
    It's impossible to stop a blue name from camping a cart spawn and 1 shotting the carts as they spawn unless you somehow select the cart first and channel the immune item.

    This event is a totally stupid and broken on PVE servers. This is like having a blue name enter TW, carrying the cata to the HQ, then standing there till the HQ dies.

    After I max out the nuema from this I see no point in participating.



    This thread should be in the quality corner section. When the faction leader/marshal activates the event for the faction using the npc in teh faction base, it states that: "it will activate PK mode for all players," which it doesn't atm.

    See screen shot:
    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=20rp8uf&s=8#.U_Y5HGN7vPk
  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    So basically this "War" is just another PvE event.....
    ....I expected no less. They could probably remedy this by applying whatever settings NW/TW follows, but I cant imagine many of the PVE'rs caring much about it. Easy rewards for as little effort and cost as possible, right?
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  • DoodsWH - Sanctuary
    DoodsWH - Sanctuary Posts: 222 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    China doesnt have pve and the oldest pwi server are pvp. not sure why you guys forget this. alot of event are pk based (temple, coa, parts of cube) blue named or not you can get killed.

    remember when secret was pk enabled ? the problem is either the whole area becomes like that or it isnt. not sure that they have a mechanism to turn it off and on during set times. it required updates in order to change the 29 area. as far as how the event actually works out. im sure it can be rugged in its current form.

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