Community challenge: class FSP clear

dookster1234 wrote: »

Woots I'm in the archer video and it was hella fun to do \o./ b:laughb:victory ....

Imo, with the classes that would have a hard time doing it i would say.... Psy's no phy atk other then the sov backlash and beating on the mob with an auto atk, Mystic's no phy atk unless im thinking wrong and AS does phy damge which i think it did or said it did at one point any way also auto atks if not, Barbs no magic atk that i can think of, Bm's they do have a fire add on to their atk but its a hard one to pull of for the duration and damage being dealt by it, Sin's are in the same boat as bm's but may be able to pull it off better if they aps like hell on it.

Now the other classes that could do it that are left.... Seekers could do it easy they have both phy and magic atks so easy for them, Wizzy's have a phy/magic atk in their arsenal but would have a tougher time then seekers and they have auto atk of course.

So thats my thoughts it is 7 in the morning and i havnt slept so i may be wrong plz do correct me if im wrong lol xD

Mystics AS does physical damage. They have physical pet too if needed.
I could imagine it be a pain for bm/sin/barb though, they would probably have to use wood apo for more mag damage. Barbs do have a wood selfbuff, so they should use other type if apo.
Oh, and the phy immune have anti aps buff too for whatever reason.

really nice great jobb:dirty

dbb does not work on phy immune dude at the end. I get nothing in my damage log when i try it out.

I will confirm again when i do fsp, but i think that would end the bm run there. Some kings get stunned by other classes, but bm stuns do not work on them. Weird thing i noticed as well when i did it on sin.

OPKossy wrote: »

Nah. The skill itself won't be damaging but it's to get the fire buff. Hence me saying wood apoth would serve better.

i meant, i kill the tombstone in lunar with dbb, they do about 1~3k damage constant. I see no effect on the king when i use dbb like that. Maybe i do something wrong?

There are some pretty good points brought up in the thread, quite interesting actually. There are things I didn't consider about some classes but...there can be ways around the potential problems I guess.

Would Soulburn work on the Phys.Immune? I kinda forgot how that skill worked because I haven't played Psychic in forever.

Go go PWI players /o/

Fissile - Archosaur wrote: »

Sins have it easy. For the phy immune, they just death link/chain and jump into one of the fire traps (put on focused mind and deaden nerves to maximize the damage transfer for at least 2 but possibly more hits).

That would be awesome! If it actually worked, which it doesn't.
Death link on phy immune mob = no damage.

Fissile - Archosaur wrote: »

Sins have it easy. For the phy immune, they just death link/chain and jump into one of the fire traps (put on focused mind and deaden nerves to maximize the damage transfer for at least 2 but possibly more hits).

There aren't enough active wiz on my server to make a serious attempt at an all wiz FSP. I tried to solo it a while back and got through the first 3 bosses (which took about 2 hours and 20ish attempts at the toad boss) only to find that the Succubus 1shots you with the AoE skills no matter what if there aren't enough people attacking. The hardest part for wiz would be the succubus because they have 0 interrupts so they would have to kill the boss between its attempts to heal.

No interrupt? Force of Will pretty much? Only cuz it doesn't clearly state that it interrupts doesn't mean it doesn't interrupt xDDD

FoW works.

Fissile - Archosaur wrote: »

The hardest part for wiz would be the succubus because they have 0 interrupts so they would have to kill the boss between its attempts to heal.

Could also try Earthquake on genie. That's what my squad did because nobody had a pet with Shriek. I think there's another genie skill that interrupts...Lightning Chaser?

Sad to hear though, would be cool to see an all Wizard squad

Those were really interesting vids, I enjoyed watching them all. Thanks for sharing. In particular I enjoyed Desdi's video, I don't really know much about venomancers so I really appreciated that she explained what was going on. Also kudos for not giving up when you had trouble on toad.

And for the wizzys and psys, would tangling mire + celestial sword be an option for the ele immune? I had celestial sword on a genie a long time ago but ended up ditching it before really testing the dmg potential. But I guess if we're discussing whacking it with auto attack any assistance is welcome.

LilyWinters - Archosaur wrote: »

And for the wizzys and psys, would tangling mire + celestial sword be an option for the ele immune? I had celestial sword on a genie a long time ago but ended up ditching it before really testing the dmg potential. But I guess if we're discussing whacking it with auto attack any assistance is welcome.

Wizards don't need to. Blade tempest is both physical and fire damage.

Demodude - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Venos cheated with pets its 20 people instead of 10 b:laugh

*thinks of days of venos with nixes, when PvP level was like 70s-89s and the nixes were OP*

No idea what you guys are talking about with the psychics, clearly they can just waltz up to the magic immune bosses and whack them with their balls B|
(kidding, though psychic orbs have a weirdly high physical attack on them.)

FoW works, have nothing with dealing damage or sealing.
Just like a lot of BMs doesnt know smack interrup the boss either, because they think it wont work when the seal from smack have no affect on bosses. (Of course they have shadowless kick too, I just prefer smack because of its speed and wont have to switch weapon).

It's not the seal that makes the skills interrup, its not damage from the skills that makes the skills a interrupting skill, its the skill itself thats designed to interrup.
Can save that genie energy for debuffs and sparks

I watched the video for the venos, great video, great music. It seemed that the top was slightly cropped for me. Could be my download thingy.

I was thinking, for bm, fsp is easy, if everyone has bp. If people do not have bp, that is another story.

That being said, us bm are awesome timers. The best in the game. You have 10 bm in squad, all 10 bm will time their hf perfectly down to the milisecond. After that everyone will be crying for others to hf b:laugh.

The bosses are not hard, if going without bp. It would require buddha guard on 3~7 bm. MSS on atleast 3 bm, so they can cycle it through. HF, gs debuffs can work. One person can spam demon bell for the pdef, and people can safely go in magic marrow. The dd would be awesome b:dirty.

That being said, kind of rare to find such bm these days who use all 59 skills and other skills. Would be a great video. Beside the phy immune king, i doubt bm would have an issue on any boss.

If they get bp, there will be no issue for the tanker and squishier bm to stay alive. Rest is just agro management b:sad.

CapnK - Sanctuary wrote: »

No it doesn't.

Should also note for mystics that Bramble Tornado works as interrupt on Blossom.

Yes it does? O.o;; It works for my mystic.

Something that is a problem for barbs... but arguably even more so for bm's as barbs have the potential to just tank through it/they do have cornered beast to avoid being killed, and that is that water damage over time d e b u f f the water boss has, that can EASILY kill ANYONE that doesn't get rid of it, a lot of people die there, and bms who do have lower magic resistance than most casters do will die faster than when a caster gets it on them.

Though there is indeed a few ways around this, magic marrow should help them, (I think) fortification balm... (something of which HAS saved me on a few occasions, despite my larger hp pool these days, (it still hurts like hell) this is something ANY class could use to get rid off it.... the same goes for genie skills) and that genie skill that makes you immune to water damage/also that Cauterize should also work I'd think.

I also feel a bm would need to prepare in different ways/be really mindful about just throwing hf/gs/mss down... especially on toad. As they would have to conserve their chi to spark away the dot from the axe being thrown. (Though aye every class will have to conserve their chi to spark, and even with all the updates, rebuilding that chi for sparking each time that is needed is no easy task, not just for bms, for any and all classes... but obviously not impossible.) Yes fortification balm WILL work here as well.

I using a DBB + GS combo on that physical immune boss in mushi's room, it so helps take it down faster when the squad is lacking magic damage.

All in all bm's definitely wouldn't have the hardest time overall, but on certain bosses, they really would have to watch it, or the going will be ridiculously tough.

Now do NOT get me wrong, I am not pointing out this issue as a way to try to say they can't do this, I KNOW that they could, especially with the 'smart' bms there. (Hell bp isn't even all that needed imho.)

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As for the psy bit, as someone else said they do have an abnormally large phys atk with spheres, and coupled with those attack levels, and perhaps some genie skills it should actually be quite plausible for them to do it, albeit it probably would still be the most difficult time with any boss in there. (As far as killing them, before they kill you goes)

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I guess what I am trying to say/suggest... is that whomever goes in there like this without a healer or w/e... should really give a thought to what apo/genie skills they bring along to help ensure that you succeed in the run, and still get the kill for each boss. This goes for ANY and ALL classes.