Wheres OUR JULY 4TH 2X

c44102
c44102 Posts: 394 Arc User
edited July 2014 in General Discussion
Why didnt we get 2x for July 4th ? And i do mean 2x DROPS..... every other holliday we have got 2x but now we never get 2x drops what is going on?
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited July 2014
    It's not even near the time where they normally post news and you're ALREADY whining about a lack of 2x?


    Chillax and go outside for a bit. Breathe some fresh air or whatever. Yeesh.
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  • Cotillion - Dreamweaver
    Cotillion - Dreamweaver Posts: 671 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    So, for the 4th of July you want to flush the economy further down the toilet? Because that's all 2x drops will do.
  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited July 2014
    I hope we DON'T get 2x.

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  • KingCrash - Dreamweaver
    KingCrash - Dreamweaver Posts: 702 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I might be wrong but I don't think a x2 drops has ever been given out since the auto bot came out. I don't think pwe wants to give out a x2 drop either. x2 is really redundant now and if it was brought out, the flood of coin would only get worse, if it even can still.
  • SakuLv - Dreamweaver
    SakuLv - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,400 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    KingCrash - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I might be wrong but I don't think a x2 drops has ever been given out since the auto bot came out. I don't think pwe wants to give out a x2 drop either. x2 is really redundant now and if it was brought out, the flood of coin would only get worse, if it even can still.

    i think there was 2x drop when botting was aloud and still DQ system working. (i think) but that was already long a go
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  • plusonepostcount
    plusonepostcount Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    b:surrender I'm one of the ones that does want 2x drops but only to get r9 molds from ws/lunar for my toon. Dat Rng keelin me b:shutup + I work 40+ hours a week I can't spend all day everyday farming for dat @!*^b:bye
  • SHIMBERLY - Heavens Tear
    SHIMBERLY - Heavens Tear Posts: 703 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Cotillion - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    So, for the 4th of July you want to flush the economy further down the toilet? Because that's all 2x drops will do.

    it wont do jack,maybe for the gold buyers,maybe,but hey whocares.Ill be outta town anyways and off this **** fest of a game for a week woot!

    I work 40 hours a week also,sure you can.
  • Liveena - Heavens Tear
    Liveena - Heavens Tear Posts: 422 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    To think that everyone in PWI is an American.....b:surrender

    If PWI makes 2x for 4th of July, I demand 2x for all independence day as well. b:chuckle

    And, no for 2x, the economy is already bad enough.
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  • Luscinia - Lost City
    Luscinia - Lost City Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    The only reason I would love a 2x is for ribbons - 15 runs for 16 ribbons is quite a lot. Apart from that I don't care :)
  • LuckingFoco - Raging Tide
    LuckingFoco - Raging Tide Posts: 712 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    2x experience I'm in favor of. 2x drops and coins I'm not in favor of.
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  • erokes
    erokes Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I agree with several here about wanting the 2x only for needed drops for gears and molds. I for one would want it so I can finally be able to finish mine, though downfall the botting will just increase so no matter how it turns out ~ aint good.
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  • slamstone
    slamstone Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    can someone change this beast title with wannabe2x?

    should be a pretty good image for his daily forum activity.b:laugh

    seriously dude stop spamming the forum with 2x....i get it (notice....not "we" as u like to refer to your opinions)! u want 2x! now don't let the door hit you on your way out.
  • YeIIowFox - Harshlands
    YeIIowFox - Harshlands Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    b:surrender would be awesome if they could do 2x but limited to certain instances like ws where the drops were untradeable and you cant really bot them. I only want it for my r9 chest mold, 4-5 weeks now with no luck b:shocked
  • Patrimpas - Dreamweaver
    Patrimpas - Dreamweaver Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    2x experience - YES. 2x drop - NO.
    Economy and so distorted, so would only be worse. In particular, the bot should resolve the problem - the time limit, reducing drop rate (currently enabled auto-culti), maybe even prevent certain place on the map to use it.
  • clokey#3498
    clokey#3498 Posts: 73 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    x2 drop will kill the economy?

    hahahahahhahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    dont make me laught, the economy atm is kissing the floor, wtf r u thinking? x2 is the only way to get better economy, atm no one can farm nothing, bad drop, only buy items, everything is getting high price cause we cant farm, gold so expensive on all servers, only donators have good economy and all pwi know that, the gms just making items to sell in the boutique, then donators can get their items and farmers go to the hell :) this is the mind of the gms....
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  • Joe - Morai
    Joe - Morai Posts: 1,299 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    The only thing killing the economy are the players. period.

    It's always like that and how could it be any different?

    They should just remove the auto-culti function or limit it to killing w/o picking for EXP gain only.

    Look. I earn a good amount of coins doing auto culti while I'm at work, but seriously. Compared to the influx of coins and the steady rise in gold prices make it not worth the time/energy spend to keep em running.

    I had an easier time achieving and earning money before auto-culti with the regular x2 thing going on.

    Some me some energy bills and just remove the auto culti for good. that way most bot-nubs will quit cuz they already got too used to the comfort.

    And those players that would rage if you remove the auto-culti function are the ones destroying the economy atm. Those players need to be removed.
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  • MyMate - Dreamweaver
    MyMate - Dreamweaver Posts: 558 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    clokey8 wrote: »
    x2 drop will kill the economy?

    hahahahahhahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    dont make me laught, the economy atm is kissing the floor, wtf r u thinking? x2 is the only way to get better economy, atm no one can farm nothing, bad drop, only buy items, everything is getting high price cause we cant farm, gold so expensive on all servers, only donators have good economy and all pwi know that, the gms just making items to sell in the boutique, then donators can get their items and farmers go to the hell :) this is the mind of the gms....

    I farm perfectly fine atm, people are just spoiled with 2x and don't wanna farm at normal rates. And how would making every single bot out there double their profit help anyone?

    "hahahahahhahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH" indeed xD

    They should just remove the coin value of all DQ items, that's how they solved botting issues in the past b:laugh
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  • WannaBM - Archosaur
    WannaBM - Archosaur Posts: 1,984 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    oVenusArmanio wrote: »
    I hope we DON'T get 2x.

    I hope we do so i can farm some bewiched dolls....
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  • Pistdoff - Archosaur
    Pistdoff - Archosaur Posts: 213 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    2x is the only real chance people who DON'T cash shop can make any decent money.

    The games economy is driven around the cash shops and what they ask and since the last 2x prices have almost doubled for certain items. A 2x drop will surely help? More items = lowered prices.

    The game seems to now be primarily focused on the cash shoppers.
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  • DionDagger - Dreamweaver
    DionDagger - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,140 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Pistdoff - Archosaur wrote: »
    2x is the only real chance people who DON'T cash shop can make any decent money.

    The games economy is driven around the cash shops and what they ask and since the last 2x prices have almost doubled for certain items. A 2x drop will surely help? More items = lowered prices.

    The game seems to now be primarily focused on the cash shoppers.

    Made 60m yesterday farming chi stones from card bosses with card made from mystical tome frags. So this is a lie, a sad one as well.
  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    **** 2x. Also, it's not even the 4th yet...
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    HideYoHubby - Archosaur Posts: 995 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    DionDagger - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Made 60m yesterday farming chi stones from card bosses with card made from mystical tome frags. So this is a lie, a sad one as well.

    Such a waste when there is good chance for 2x drops. In p.stone farming due mystical frags having kinda stable price its just so not worth it farming outside of 2x.
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  • Joe - Morai
    Joe - Morai Posts: 1,299 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    DionDagger - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Made 60m yesterday farming chi stones from card bosses with card made from mystical tome frags. So this is a lie, a sad one as well.

    Do you really consider 60m decent money? Hell Pstones sell for 10k each here atm and I could do roughly 67 card bosses x 24 mats each equals ~84 pstones each mat.

    that would just be like 1,3b coins an although I have to admit that this is a decent amount of money, still not worth it til x2.

    Do you guys even know how rewarding it is to do solo delta runs? Easy as heck and the pstone market throws massive amounts of money out for the right players to catch.

    Seems like I really live in different worlds compared to others. Anything under 100m is not to be considered money at all. Thats change at best. Why? Cuz I roughly make 100m all 3 days by putting in 1h each day^^ Farming w/o x2 in equation to that would be a massive time waste.

    that pretty much means I'm doing nothing that would at least get me 20m each hour or things worth 20m. Even without auto culti that fact wouldn't change.

    EDIT: Although I have to admit that this is a bit unfair from my point of view. I alrdy am close to end-game and pretty much can beat anyone on my server in fair 1on1s at least. I dont have that huge need to improve my gears anymore so it is only natural that I give a load less about all that.
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  • Cotillion - Dreamweaver
    Cotillion - Dreamweaver Posts: 671 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Why do people not understand how a 2x drops would destroy the value of their coin even more?
    Yes, you might have more coin.....worth drastically less what it is now. So, how does that help anything? It doesn't. It makes things worse to flood an economy like PWI's with yet even more coin. 2x would be one of the worst things they could do to it.
    2x will not magically make you rich when its driving the value of your coin down. Price of gold will go up. And where will you be left after this 2x you desperately want? In a far worse situation than now.
  • clokey#3498
    clokey#3498 Posts: 73 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    MyMate - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I farm perfectly fine atm, people are just spoiled with 2x and don't wanna farm at normal rates. And how would making every single bot out there double their profit help anyone?

    "hahahahahhahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH" indeed xD

    They should just remove the coin value of all DQ items, that's how they solved botting issues in the past b:laugh

    who told u that im talking about dq points? for me the gms can delete the dq, i dont farm dq lol, im talking about TT / books -.-
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  • Joe - Morai
    Joe - Morai Posts: 1,299 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Cotillion - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Why do people not understand how a 2x drops would destroy the value of their coin even more?
    Yes, you might have more coin.....worth drastically less what it is now. So, how does that help anything? It doesn't. It makes things worse to flood an economy like PWI's with yet even more coin. 2x would be one of the worst things they could do to it.
    2x will not magically make you rich when its driving the value of your coin down. Price of gold will go up. And where will you be left after this 2x you desperately want? In a far worse situation than now.

    True but that is due to the auto-cultivation and the absence of any viable coin sink.

    What would be the problem to put items like A Scroll of tome, a Crown of Madness and other stuff to an NPC for Coins?

    Something realistic to underline their pack value would be:

    SoT: 1b coins
    CoM: 2b coins
    MW: 500m coins
    S-S-Packs: 200m coins

    and so on.

    That only would change anything for the better. Coin value would rise to new highs. PPL will have a new reason to charge for coins if they want their stuff fast and reliable.

    That would not only let PWE earn enourmous amounts of money, no. That would also benefit farmers and nearly anyone ingame cept the lazy-@ss bot-only users.

    The reason this wont happen is that PWE speculates to earn more money with desperate players spamming packs in order to get the extremely rare items. Thats dumb. They could make a steady great income with ANYONE to benefit from.

    Most ppl dont bother with those items anyway so the "high" price shouldnt be a prob for them and anyways. there will always be gamblers that spamm packs to get them "cheaper".

    PWEs marketing sucks and thats all. They are destroying this game when they could make it last a huge while longer. sad.
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  • Cotillion - Dreamweaver
    Cotillion - Dreamweaver Posts: 671 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Joe - Morai wrote: »
    True but that is due to the auto-cultivation and the absence of any viable coin sink.

    What would be the problem to put items like A Scroll of tome, a Crown of Madness and other stuff to an NPC for Coins?

    Something realistic to underline their pack value would be:

    SoT: 1b coins
    CoM: 2b coins
    MW: 500m coins
    S-S-Packs: 200m coins

    I agree with you....in the games current state, without a proper coin sink and coins appearing daily in the economy as much as it is with bots and bh and such, a 2x would be devastating.

    We need a coin sink implemented more than a 2x.
  • c44102
    c44102 Posts: 394 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Whats with all the lil babys crying on my post. I dont want 2 x because i dont farm go winn some more and put more cash on to the game. While the ones that do farm very much enjoy 2x DROPS. PWI needs to take out the stupid Auto Culti Bot they gave us hell even if it was temp ( Altho we all know pwi doesnt do temp they take stuff from us and never return it ) Its simple farming many things suck during normal drops. For a expample i helped a friend farm 29 Snake Bosses in Warsong for 1 mold to drop over the last few days. That is a lot of freaking runs for 1 mold. Where 2x would have cut that time in half and would have been great. Becuase of the Auto Culti Bot they gave us they should just make it 2x Drops inside of instances!!! This would cut back on all the babys crying about people botting. Easy Simple Fix b:thanksb:thanks
  • Ninety_nine - Dreamweaver
    Ninety_nine - Dreamweaver Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Cotillion - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I agree with you....in the games current state, without a proper coin sink and coins appearing daily in the economy as much as it is with bots and bh and such, a 2x would be devastating.

    We need a coin sink implemented more than a 2x.

    +1
    The economy is bad enough right now. Tbh if bots are removed...The prices would somewhat stabilize in a few weeks/months.
    Granted bots are not the sole cause of inflation. But it does contribute.
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  • plusonepostcount
    plusonepostcount Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Joe - Morai wrote: »
    True but that is due to the auto-cultivation and the absence of any viable coin sink.

    What would be the problem to put items like A Scroll of tome, a Crown of Madness and other stuff to an NPC for Coins?

    Something realistic to underline their pack value would be:

    SoT: 1b coins
    CoM: 2b coins
    MW: 500m coins
    S-S-Packs: 200m coins

    and so on.

    That only would change anything for the better. Coin value would rise to new highs. PPL will have a new reason to charge for coins if they want their stuff fast and reliable.

    That would not only let PWE earn enourmous amounts of money, no. That would also benefit farmers and nearly anyone ingame cept the lazy-@ss bot-only users.

    The reason this wont happen is that PWE speculates to earn more money with desperate players spamming packs in order to get the extremely rare items. Thats dumb. They could make a steady great income with ANYONE to benefit from.

    Most ppl dont bother with those items anyway so the "high" price shouldnt be a prob for them and anyways. there will always be gamblers that spamm packs to get them "cheaper".

    PWEs marketing sucks and thats all. They are destroying this game when they could make it last a huge while longer. sad.

    You have to take into account prices on each server vary cut those in half and its kinda close to what stuff costs within a 100m or so. Gold has peaked at buying price at 2.4 mil here and it fluctuates dependin on the current sales.

    Patience typically saves people tons of coin as well as buying on good sales then reselling. The only real issue we have with gold prices currently is the 1-2 people with enough coin to baically control the market on gold having enough to basically buy out all gold in ah then resell it all at a profit making others pay higher prices and creating a monopoly.

    Again just cause your servers economy is completely in the #@$#^%$ doesn't mean every other servers is. You just gotta know what to farm/buy/sell/resell and when to do it and how to do it at lowest cost and highest profits possible.

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