Wheres OUR JULY 4TH 2X

SxyAssSeeker - Heavens Tear

2x is helpful for those who dont cash shop I dont have the income to put forth real money into the game and gear/weapons are not cheap to make! so i rely on in game items and coin to be able to get the stuff i need for my soon to be R9 Seeker

MyMate - Dreamweaver

clokey8 wrote: »

who told u that im talking about dq points? for me the gms can delete the dq, i dont farm dq lol, im talking about TT / books -.-

I didn't say DQ points, what I meant was the coin value of DQ items. Which is the reason me and others don't want a 2x, cause it will double the coin bots bring to the server. And trust me, you don't want more coins in circulation. If we didn't have that auto-cultivation, then I would probably scream for a 2x too right now xD

SylenThunder - Twilight Temple

SxyAssSeeker - Heavens Tear wrote: »

2x is helpful for those who dont cash shop I dont have the income to put forth real money into the game and gear/weapons are not cheap to make! so i rely on in game items and coin to be able to get the stuff i need for my soon to be R9 Seeker

Actually it's not. With the botting, it will just increase the amount of coin on the server and drive the prices of gold and everything else even higher.

I vote no for 2x, and I'm one of those that doesn't cash shop, and can't spend my time botting either.

Cotillion - Dreamweaver

c44102 wrote: »

Whats with all the lil babys crying on my post. I dont want 2 x because i dont farm go winn some more and put more cash on to the game. While the ones that do farm very much enjoy 2x DROPS.

I do farm. Alot of my income comes from farming and selling. You just have to know how to do it. See this thread for many posts on how to make money without introducing a devastating 2x into the economy.

SxyAssSeeker - Heavens Tear wrote: »

2x is helpful for those who dont cash shop I dont have the income to put forth real money into the game and gear/weapons are not cheap to make! so i rely on in game items and coin to be able to get the stuff i need for my soon to be R9 Seeker

2x will only lower the value of your coins and if anything, make you worse off when the 2x ends and the market is left in a more ruinous state than it is in. I know people who don't hae alot of time or able to put any money into the game and still do fine because they know how to make the most of their time and generate a nice income.
It's very short-sighted to think a 2x will make you rich or get you what you want, without taking into account the effect it would have.
While you might make alot more, the price of gold and everything else will increase with coin being devalued so much. You won't be farther ahead.
We need coin sinks to take the coin in the economy out, not throw more coin into it.

WannaBM - Archosaur

How about if they would do 2x but not for coins and DQ items (just make ALL the DQ items worthless while you're at it anyway)

Doubling the amount of TT mats wont be bad for the coin/gold ratio. Nor will it be bad that 2x allows us to farm lunar effectively and pstones. None of that puts coins into the economy. Only the botting does.

So ye, cut the coin drops, make worthless the DQ, and give us 2x b:pleased

MyMate - Dreamweaver

WannaBM - Archosaur wrote: »

How about if they would do 2x but not for coins and DQ items (just make ALL the DQ items worthless while you're at it anyway)

Doubling the amount of TT mats wont be bad for the coin/gold ratio. Nor will it be bad that 2x allows us to farm lunar effectively and pstones. None of that puts coins into the economy. Only the botting does.

So ye, cut the coin drops, make worthless the DQ, and give us 2x b:pleased

Make all DQ items worthless and bring back DQ points, would help fix the economy but wouldn't make the bot useless
As I said before in this thread, then I would scream for a 2x too xD

hiitsmeguys

Joe - Morai wrote: »

Do you really consider 60m decent money? Hell Pstones sell for 10k each here atm and I could do roughly 67 card bosses x 24 mats each equals ~84 pstones each mat.

that would just be like 1,3b coins an although I have to admit that this is a decent amount of money, still not worth it til x2.

Do you guys even know how rewarding it is to do solo delta runs? Easy as heck and the pstone market throws massive amounts of money out for the right players to catch.

Seems like I really live in different worlds compared to others. Anything under 100m is not to be considered money at all. Thats change at best. Why? Cuz I roughly make 100m all 3 days by putting in 1h each day^^ Farming w/o x2 in equation to that would be a massive time waste.

that pretty much means I'm doing nothing that would at least get me 20m each hour or things worth 20m. Even without auto culti that fact wouldn't change.

EDIT: Although I have to admit that this is a bit unfair from my point of view. I alrdy am close to end-game and pretty much can beat anyone on my server in fair 1on1s at least. I dont have that huge need to improve my gears anymore so it is only natural that I give a load less about all that.

You do realize that when the new servers (eu) opened, all the botters rushed to those servers in hopes of increased profits, which usually go along with new servers as well as all the people capable of botting numerous clients to get back on top asap. Morai is so hyper-inflated you can't even come close to comparing yourself to anyone else on any server, your 100m a day is worth 30m to the rest of us. I lol also when you say you make so much money, yet you're only "close" to endgame. Also, soloing delta takes 2hrs minimum and you barely get any of the mats u need for making oht gears.

Flash_man - Lost City

Even if we get 2x, it would be worthless with how unstable the servers are atm. This lag is horrible and all these dc's wouldn't even allow you to farm much during 2x.

RankNine - Momaganon

why does every 2nd thread in this forum turn into a stage for Joe to brag about his made-up ingamefantasies? its really not very enjoyable to read his lies and the forum-blacklist obviously doesnt work.
any mods?

Joe - Morai

RankNine - Momaganon wrote: »

why does every 2nd thread in this forum turn into a stage for Joe to brag about his made-up ingamefantasies? its really not very enjoyable to read his lies and the forum-blacklist obviously doesnt work.
any mods?

Why is it that you have to say the same bs under nearly any post I make?

I never lied. I never will. I'm actually underestimating my income big time here. Always calculating with the possible minimum.

The reason why you must think that its all a lie is that I am far superior to you. Better in any way.

Why? Because stating something is a lie which is obviously very possible tells me that your knowledge of ingame mechanics is close to zero.

It's not like I'm performing miracles and it's quite obvious how it can be done easily by anyone with a little effort beforehand. Tho there are several ways to achieve that amount of money daily.

Why I will always win any argument with you? Cuz you cant proof sht and I am always rdy to stand up and show guys the truth. You are all talk.

Eoria - Harshlands

I just want one day of 2x to farm pstones... ;-;

Joe - Morai

Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »

I just want one day of 2x to farm pstones... ;-;

I assume that even with a single day of x2 the influx of pstones would explode on any server xDD

I know at least 5 ppl that will get ~100k-300k pstones each during the next x2 including myself.

With patience you can sell pstones for 10k each currently on morai. It's only an assumption but I guess those prices will go down quite a bit. On any server xDD

Zoldi - Morai

I vote for a *2 on Morai only since gold price there is already at 4M
Just to check what will happen then b:laugh (and because I need some essences and a lot of pstones b:shutup)

Aubree - Dreamweaver

Joe - Morai wrote: »

I assume that even with a single day of x2 the influx of pstones would explode on any server xDD

I know at least 5 ppl that will get ~100k-300k pstones each during the next x2 including myself.

With patience you can sell pstones for 10k each currently on morai. It's only an assumption but I guess those prices will go down quite a bit. On any server xDD

I'd decomp npc gears before paying 10k per stone. That's ****** insane. It's cheaper to decomp botting drops than pay for stones at that price. Your server has stupid people. I wanna come rip off everyone there too b:shutup

Joe - Morai

Aubree - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I'd decomp npc gears before paying 10k per stone. That's ****** insane. It's cheaper to decomp botting drops than pay for stones at that price. Your server has stupid people. I wanna come rip off everyone there too b:shutup

Pretty much yep. Our server consists of premature morons that are either too dumb, foolish or arrogant to wait for sales/chances and so on.

opkossy

Joe - Morai wrote: »

With patience you can sell pstones for 10k each currently on morai

... WELL THEN

brb getting active on Morai! b:laugh

Aubree - Dreamweaver

Joe - Morai wrote: »

Pretty much yep. Our server consists of premature morons that are either too dumb, foolish or arrogant to wait for sales/chances and so on.

Well let me put this information here then for those who need.

1 P. Stone = 720 stamina to genie.

1 g9 armor piece = 7 g7 stones = 3,360 stamina to genie. NPC price = $6,300

So 720 goes into 3360 about 4.5 times. If the cost of p. stones less than $1,400, buy. Otherwise just decomp your gears.

If you need for def charms that's another story but for genie/wings...

Joe - Morai

Aubree - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Well let me put this information here then for those who need.

1 P. Stone = 720 stamina to genie.

1 g9 armor piece = 7 g7 stones = 3,360 stamina to genie. NPC price = $6,300

So 720 goes into 3360 about 4.5 times. If the cost of p. stones less than $1,400, buy. Otherwise just decomp your gears.

If you need for def charms that's another story but for genie/wings...

Psssshhhhhht!!!!! Don't spread thsoe "romours" all over the forums =P

A bud of mine sold over 7 Stacks of pstones for 10k each. I mean...welll thats 700m coins xDD

But hey the prices ar enot that weired considering that ANYONE keeps their tome frags for a x2 and the last one is quite a while ago, so the pstones are nearly out.

And so you dont get me wrong. We do have pplhere selling pstones for under 5k. At any time.
That brings up the fact that some of our beloved players are so friggin impatient, that they buy stuffs from the first shop they see and or refuse to wait for others to refill their cheap stacks.

Some thing goes for nearly any item on the server. There is always someone stupid enough to buy stuff at redicolous prices, you just gotta wait for it.

Another example are POFs and OBP. While 3 shops around my own are selling them for 150-160k, I sell them for 300k each. Believe it or not. Even while the other shops have a good amount of them...some ppl tend to buy mine. I always get them sold.

Europeans ijs. Some items that are too cheap are just not "exclusive" enough for us to buy. xDDD

DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver

>My face when i'm sitting on top of a crapload of perfect stones but i'm too lazy to ever sell them because I just don't care about making coins or upgrading gear anymore since pve is too boring and pvp is too childish/boring as well

>My face when I have too many items I could sell to make a profit but just can't be arsed

>My face when I have no reaction image

>I have no face

Potato.

Zoldi - Morai

Joe - Morai wrote: »

Europeans ijs.

Just my two cents but I never heard about any friend/guildmate buying PStones for 10k on Morai. And you can (very) EASILY find shops selling some at 5-6k (which is already way too much in my opinion) that are never sold out.
You probably just got luck with someone that didn't know how to spend all his money. Good for you but don't let people think this is the common behavior on Morai...

scruncy

Dont listen to Joe and his bedtime stories.
Why do you think he comes here to the forums to post his fantasies?
Because nobody takes him serious at morai itself.

I make 3b coins a day bla bla
i beat every single person in pvp bla bla

everytime the same ****

Joe - Morai

scruncy wrote: »

Dont listen to Joe and his bedtime stories.
Why do you think he comes here to the forums to post his fantasies?
Because nobody takes him serious at morai itself.

I make 3b coins a day bla bla
i beat every single person in pvp bla bla

everytime the same ****

Those are facts.

K next time I ask my bud to make a screen from it.

Like I said. I dont fear to proof anything I say, unlike the most of you guys.

To PvP: Anyone who thinks that I'm just all talk can challenge me anytime and I gladly fight them. And I'm honest and serious now. If you dont have significant better gears then I do (which is possible but hard) then you wont have a chance. Just try it, ijs.

So redicolous. Everyone says I'm all talk but I'm not the one refusing to show the truth and to back up my words. You guys are the ones that are impossible to be taken serious here. Back your words up with actions or stop flaming me.

@Zoldi: It's pretty much like that. I know several ppl that sell stuff overpriced by far and still get it sold. In huge quantities. I'm not talking about your regular "once a year"-selling. It's a steady process.

Judging from the poor gear planning decisions of the majority of the server which leaves me to think that it's no planning at all concludes in the theory that 99% of our server population act out of pure randomness. For example: Cash Shopper A is in a bad mood and doesnt care about anything but got too much unused money left...well he just buys a stack of pstones for 100m.
I mean thats understandable. PPL are like that.

I even know some ppl that tend to buy the expensive stuff because they dont wanna have the work to compare prices or just because it's the first shop right before their bank and they dont wanna move at all. Even I bought stuff cuz of this...on rare occasions but yeah.

DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver

Joe - Morai wrote: »

Those are facts.

K next time I ask my bud to make a screen from it.

Like I said. I dont fear to proof anything I say, unlike the most of you guys.

Ok, post videos of your pvp sessions :-)
So far all i've seen from you is talk, no proof, since you said you're not afraid to prove it, go ahead, prove it.

Joe - Morai

DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Ok, post videos of your pvp sessions :-)
So far all i've seen from you is talk, no proof, since you said you're not afraid to prove it, go ahead, prove it.

Sure present me worthy opponents and there we go (:

Terms would be regular 1on1 terms. Self Buffs only 2 out of 3 matches.

My Shadowplay is rdy at any time to record interesting things.

But that is actually not the right place for that as this thread revolves around x2 and not PvP. It only got that focused on PvP and me due to that moron ragenine.

DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver

Joe - Morai wrote: »

Sure present me worthy opponents and there we go (:

Terms would be regular 1on1 terms. Self Buffs only 2 out of 3 matches.

My Shadowplay is rdy at any time to record interesting things.

But that is actually not the right place for that as this thread revolves around x2 and not PvP. It only got that focused on PvP and me due to that moron ragenine.

Pre-setup pvp = worst pvp.
Just record yourself doing pvp, non of this softy type "pls ask before you do anything" nonsense.

If you are as good as you claim to be, that shouldn't be a problem.

Regardless, 2x won't happen, with good reason, and even if it did happen, it won't change much, on pve servers gold price is already near its limit, and more mats mean cheaper stuff for other people.
I don't see the benefit nor issue from it.

Joe - Morai

DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Pre-setup pvp = worst pvp.
Just record yourself doing pvp, non of this softy type "pls ask before you do anything" nonsense.

If you are as good as you claim to be, that shouldn't be a problem.

Regardless, 2x won't happen, with good reason, and even if it did happen, it won't change much, on pve servers gold price is already near its limit, and more mats mean cheaper stuff for other people.
I don't see the benefit nor issue from it.

I only do 1on1 if its about to see whose the better player. Anything else involves circumstances that cannot be controlled by anyone.

If I wanted to show off big time I would record myself while I'm crashing a full squad in NW nearly alone but that is and was so luck dependend. Surely skill is always involved but I want it to be the only factor. No other player, no buffs no nothing shall distort that.

Just like I would PvP with full buffs against classes that cannot purge. What a nonsense and unfair advantage for me. no. No one and nothing can kill me while I'm fully buffed, alone.

It isnt about me being at an advantage, I dont wanna fight an opponent that is at a disadvantage, I want a fair fight for any participant.

I rely on skill and thats it. How could I proof that I'm simply the better player otherwise? I couldn't. 1on1 for skill show offs, period.

XXHotXx - Morai

damn joe yesterday night you missed some good pk on morai... i saw some new white named faces like bradi and snowcrystal

lasted a whole 5 minutes doe

opkossy

XXHotXx - Morai wrote: »

damn joe yesterday night you missed some good pk on morai... i saw some new white named faces like bradi and snowcrystal

lasted a whole 5 minutes doe

Post about it in the Morai section. Let's get that place more active man! b:laugh



But on a more serious note, we've kinda flew past the whole 2x topic thing here. Should probably try to get back to that sometime.

I probably wouldn't mind a 2x as much if it were before auto-culti or they had a way to control it instead of making it a blanket 2x on EVERYTHING. As is, though, only reason I'd want to see a 2x would be if I wanted to see just how much more the ingame economy could go in the gutter.

SylenThunder - Twilight Temple

OPKossy wrote: »

Post about it in the Morai section. Let's get that place more active man! b:laugh



But on a more serious note, we've kinda flew past the whole 2x topic thing here. Should probably try to get back to that sometime.

I probably wouldn't mind a 2x as much if it were before auto-culti or they had a way to control it instead of making it a blanket 2x on EVERYTHING. As is, though, only reason I'd want to see a 2x would be if I wanted to see just how much more the ingame economy could go in the gutter.

Agreed. It will only hurt the economy, which is already on a fast and steady decline.

therev

Yeah gold on sanc almost capped at least remove sales then do a 2x b:surrender n.n