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true on dreamweaver that happened and now because of pwi.s **** up of not resetting tw at the right time said merged no2 and no3 faction is going to take tw map that had it been reset when it was supposed to no1 faction would have won.So no 1 faction gets screwed over because of pwi's incompentance0
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DarkSkiesx - Dreamweaver wrote: »We had a similar problem on Dreamweaver, the #2 and #3 were getting 'one push'ed by the #1 faction, so I worked out a merge and #2 and #3 merged together and are beating the old #1 faction.
Hopefully the old #1 can get some its old roster playing again that stopped playing due to various reasons, recruit a few more, and work on improving base defence strategies (long time since they had to defend a base so abit unorganised atm) should be some fun fights next season.
Basically the right mergers need to happen and most of the time egos politics and grudges get in the way. It's up to faction leaders to make this happen like I had to.
I think 2# and 3# didn't even seem to wanna TW between each other for the half of the season (4 month more or less u can correct me there)
Merge work out very well for Tempest, got very very strong .
I think most of us in the guild have to work on gear like a lot. I have to work on gear my self too, Hoping MoG sale soon b:shocked Maybe with r9rr i wouldn't be 1 shot for those tons of OP players.
PWI put the mog sale pls b:cute
At least i dont feel being screwed over. xD I mean i have the wep and the panda bear already. Don't want them or need them more.wonkiedonkey wrote: »true on dreamweaver that happened and now because of pwi.s **** up of not resetting tw at the right time said merged no2 and no3 faction is going to take tw map that had it been reset when it was supposed to no1 faction would have won.So no 1 faction gets screwed over because of pwi's incompentance
I believe PWI will give us more surprises in the future. Not the good ones.
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Kyanelle - Heavens Tear wrote: »No-one is demanding season rewards.
This, I only brought it up because I'm curious on their reasoning on why stop at the 2-season mark, nothing more or less.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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b:chuckle_evil_angel - Heavens Tear wrote: »I take it ur not in a top Faction?
Have you ever been in a top Faction?
Have you ever been in a Faction that has totally taken the full map?
If your answer is no then u will not understand._evil_angel - Heavens Tear wrote: »It is not our Factions fault that people want to join a winning Faction.
You still benefit from it, right? Did those people join *before* you owned all that land, to help you dominate? Or did they jump on the wagon as it rolled by, as the dozer blade was being fitted? Do you enjoy the people who come on late in the season to coast after you have done all the hard work as much as the people who started with you? Hell, I'd be *pissed* at all the Johnny-Come-lateleys leeching off of my and my friends hard work. Or do you secretly depend on that effect to help you crush the other factions later? You get enough people to hang on your coattails and 80 powerleveled noobs will be able to defend against an attack from a fac that can only field 40-50 people.
*Then* how much skill and "leadership" is involved in that win?
I liked TWing for the fights that were *even* - that made them *fun*. How is a series of steamrolls "fun"?
Hell, I don't mean to jump anyone's faction *specifically*, but please don't pretend this isn't the way it always happens._evil_angel - Heavens Tear wrote: »And actually the #2 Faction has more ppl that will turn up for a TW and more better Geared ppl. It is not our fault that they lack leadership to take them past our level.
oh_you're_serious_let_me_laugh_harder.jpg_evil_angel - Heavens Tear wrote: »And btw we have lots of fun, but its always nice to get something for what u have woken up early, or stayed up late for.
As I remember TW, the other guys stayed late/showed up early too. They worked hard, and lost. What was their reward, other than the knowledge that they tried their best? Did you thank them for a good fight?
\because I remember plenty of factions that thought the reward should be nuking the spawn
\\and months of abuse for even trying
\\\therefore driving the top 5% to *their* faction, because who wants the abuse?A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
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Redmenace - Heavens Tear wrote: »b:chuckle
You still benefit from it, right? Did those people join *before* you owned all that land, to help you dominate? Or did they jump on the wagon as it rolled by, as the dozer blade was being fitted? Do you enjoy the people who come on late in the season to coast after you have done all the hard work as much as the people who started with you? Hell, I'd be *pissed* at all the Johnny-Come-lateleys leeching off of my and my friends hard work. Or do you secretly depend on that effect to help you crush the other factions later? You get enough people to hang on your coattails and 80 powerleveled noobs will be able to defend against an attack from a fac that can only field 40-50 people.
*Then* how much skill and "leadership" is involved in that win?
I liked TWing for the fights that were *even* - that made them *fun*. How is a series of steamrolls "fun"?
Hell, I don't mean to jump anyone's faction *specifically*, but please don't pretend this isn't the way it always happens.
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As I remember TW, the other guys stayed late/showed up early too. They worked hard, and lost. What was their reward, other than the knowledge that they tried their best? Did you thank them for a good fight?
\because I remember plenty of factions that thought the reward should be nuking the spawn
\\and months of abuse for even trying
\\\therefore driving the top 5% to *their* faction, because who wants the abuse?
Your post is really hard to understand, maybe u can spend another hour to rewrite it so we can understand it. IJS.0 -
syphonfilter wrote: »Your post is really hard to understand, maybe u can spend another hour to rewrite it so we can understand it. IJS.
My point was big factions just get bigger, the same way big planets get bigger - by sucking in everything around them.
Not every "we own the map" faction got there out of pure animal magnetism and brilliant strategy.A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
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Redmenace - Heavens Tear wrote: »My point was big factions just get bigger, the same way big planets get bigger - by sucking in everything around them.
Not every "we own the map" faction got there out of pure animal magnetism and brilliant strategy.
Which faction has the most R9S3 gears with high lvl gems/dods/dots in HT?
Don't just answer without proof, we do check out other factions gear. Which faction fills a full TW every week if no problems?
We all know who has the better gear'd ppl in HT. Who can full a TW easy with 80 ppl. But why do they lose to a lower gear'd faction?0 -
Because gear isn't everything. It's a concept many players have trouble with.syphonfilter wrote: »Which faction has the most R9S3 gears with high lvl gems/dods/dots in HT?
Don't just answer without proof, we do check out other factions gear. Which faction fills a full TW every week if no problems?
We all know who has the better gear'd ppl in HT. Who can full a TW easy with 80 ppl. But why do they lose to a lower gear'd faction?
Which makes it really fun taking them down in my "under-geared" cleric. b:chuckle
To win a TW, you need skills, and strategy. Obviously they are missing something.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Gear isn't everything but matters a lot. It's impossible even to imagine that full 80 on 1 side are smart but undergeared and on the other side everyone is brainless fool, who can't use skills properly b:chuckleSylenThunder - Sanctuary wrote: »Because gear isn't everything. It's a concept many players have trouble with.
Which makes it really fun taking them down in my "under-geared" cleric. b:chuckle
To win a TW, you need skills, and strategy. Obviously they are missing something.
You can take a lot of ppl down with worse armor relying on better skills, because you are alone and the chance that your opponent isn't as good as you is 50/50. On TW you have 160 ppl, skilled, unskilled, charmed, uncharmed etc, on both sides. And there you will need gear to compensate your own faction's weak points. You don't win TW alone.
It's possible to win in worse armor overall but gap shouldn't be too big.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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syphonfilter wrote: »Which faction has the most R9S3 gears with high lvl gems/dods/dots in HT?
Don't just answer without proof, we do check out other factions gear. Which faction fills a full TW every week if no problems?
We all know who has the better gear'd ppl in HT. Who can full a TW easy with 80 ppl. But why do they lose to a lower gear'd faction?
Sorry, "we" have no f'ing idea. I haven't followed the "who's e-wang is bigger" fights for years.
If you want good fights, *even* fights, then force 1 for 1 in TW. If you have 80 people, and your opponent has 40, send 40.
If you beat 'em, you were better. If not, *they* were.
Then you can swing your peen around thru WC for the next hour.
\or not
\\because it's all about the 'peen, and nothing about good battlesA human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
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Agreed, but I've actually had battles like that before. Usually it's because they have one strategy, and then don't adapt when we develop a counter to it. They just keep hammering us with the same attack, and while they do that we sneak around and lower their defenses. By the time they figure it out, it's too late and now we're on the offensive and at their gates. Then it's either a stalemate because we can't break through their gear, or a long battle where we win. Typically we end up fighting about 60 vs 35 where we're the 35.Marengo - Lost City wrote: »Gear isn't everything but matters a lot. It's impossible even to imagine that full 80 on 1 side are smart but undergeared and on the other side everyone is brainless fool, who can't use skills properly b:chuckle
You can take a lot of ppl down with worse armor relying on better skills, because you are alone and the chance that your opponent isn't as good as you is 50/50. On TW you have 160 ppl, skilled, unskilled, charmed, uncharmed etc, on both sides. And there you will need gear to compensate your own faction's weak points. You don't win TW alone.
It's possible to win in worse armor overall but gap shouldn't be too big.
We've got some really awesome guys coordinating though, and with good teamwork we adapt to the battle situation very quickly.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Redmenace - Heavens Tear wrote: »Sorry, "we" have no f'ing idea. I haven't followed the "who's e-wang is bigger" fights for years.
If you want good fights, *even* fights, then force 1 for 1 in TW. If you have 80 people, and your opponent has 40, send 40.
If you beat 'em, you were better. If not, *they* were.
Then you can swing your peen around thru WC for the next hour.
\or not
\\because it's all about the 'peen, and nothing about good battles
swiss cheese has lots of holes
the more holes you have, the less cheese you have.
the more cheese you have, the more holes you have.
thus, the more cheese you have, the less cheese you have.
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Redmenace - Heavens Tear wrote: »
If you want good fights, *even* fights, then force 1 for 1 in TW. If you have 80 people, and your opponent has 40, send 40.
"Even" fights can still be uneven if one side lacks gear and/or skill.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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_evil_angel - Heavens Tear wrote: »I take it ur not in a top Faction?
Have you ever been in a top Faction?
Have you ever been in a Faction that has totally taken the full map?
If your answer is no then u will not understand.
Our Faction has won the last 2 seasons and will be winning this season too.
And no we did not white wash #2 Factions all the time. It is not our Factions fault that people want to join a winning Faction. And actually the #2 Faction has more ppl that will turn up for a TW and more better Geared ppl. It is not our fault that they lack leadership to take them past our level.
And btw we have lots of fun, but its always nice to get something for what u have woken up early, or stayed up late for.
It is what it is. Sure Karma won this TW season BUT they are far from holding the full map, given time maybe, considering the factions on this server can't work together to save themselves.Then again, maybe members would get tired of boring TW's and actually seek out a faction where they might make a difference rather than just jumping into one of the 2 top factions. On that note, one has to also wonder where Karma would be had they not 'borrowed' the best geared top TWer's from another faction when they were losing to GD, a move I was adamantly against. So many ifs and buts. At the end of the day, congratulations to the core of Karma for winning the TW season.0 -
syphonfilter wrote: »swiss cheese has lots of holes
the more holes you have, the less cheese you have.
the more cheese you have, the more holes you have.
thus, the more cheese you have, the less cheese you have.
U mad?
Bless Your Heart, you think I give a rats ***.
You have a wonderful day Son.A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
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Knownase - Heavens Tear wrote: »"Even" fights can still be uneven if one side lacks gear and/or skill.
Absolutely true. Seen plenty of em like that.
But wouldn't it be fun to see TW's restricted by the lowest number? Hell, each fac could pick *one* person (or a 6 man squad), and send them in. *That* would be fun to watch (assuming they enabled some sort of " TW God's-eye view feature").
Pick your small team of gladiators, the system *forces* your numbers to be equal... Ah well. Never gonna happen.
Too much $$$ to be made in charm sales.A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
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_evil_angel - Heavens Tear wrote: »And no we did not white wash #2 Factions all the time. It is not our Factions fault that people want to join a winning Faction. And actually the #2 Faction has more ppl that will turn up for a TW and more better Geared ppl. It is not our fault that they lack leadership to take them past our level.
Now THAT is some funny ****!
You pull full 80 nearly every week when we pull 50-60, and if you want to start comparing gear.. LOL.
You need to get out of that mine you work in more often and enjoy some fresh air my friend, it's starting to damage your brain.
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OK i know for fact that my faction isnt great we lost to big faction and small and won aginst other equal factions, but hearing someone say their is all Tactics this for a fact i know isnt tru LOL, keep dreaming.
As for geared ppl that lose to a Smaller faction thats not geared is a Lie, the faction that won, Probably world chat saying they beat this or that faction with weak gear, DOUBTFUL. ever think that faction was gettting multi'd by more then one faction Nope i doubt they won vs a well geared faction, cause i know that 20 R999+12 refine geared people vs 80 under geared people, those 20 would run right through them, this is a fact. Not possible even under skilled r999+12, and if they are that im sure they would run over those 80 PPL IJS from expeirence.....b:byeb:byeb:bye0 -
The_Shocker - Heavens Tear wrote: »Now THAT is some funny ****!
You pull full 80 nearly every week when we pull 50-60, and if you want to start comparing gear.. LOL.
You need to get out of that mine you work in more often and enjoy some fresh air my friend, it's starting to damage your brain.
Peace out.
Who are you? I'm a Non-Factor so everyone tells me. Which faction are u actually in? BTW we has spys... So **** person with no Proof.b:chuckleDemon_monk - Sanctuary wrote: »OK i know for fact that my faction isnt great we lost to big faction and small and won aginst other equal factions, but hearing someone say their is all Tactics this for a fact i know isnt tru LOL, keep dreaming.
As for geared ppl that lose to a Smaller faction thats not geared is a Lie, the faction that won, Probably world chat saying they beat this or that faction with weak gear, DOUBTFUL. ever think that faction was gettting multi'd by more then one faction Nope i doubt they won vs a well geared faction, cause i know that 20 R999+12 refine geared people vs 80 under geared people, those 20 would run right through them, this is a fact. Not possible even under skilled r999+12, and if they are that im sure they would run over those 80 PPL IJS from expeirence.....b:byeb:byeb:bye
This is true,, but if u have 40/80 R9s3 +12s in one faction and a useless leader who always pushes the same pushes (mostly backing up to be pushed into), and 30/75 R9s +12s in another with a leader that can actually get the right squads in the right place's at the right times, who do you think would win?b:victory0 -
in the past every map reset came with 2 weeks 2x what happen to that ? in the past we had 2 x at easter not this yr has pwi decided we just dont deserve 2x any more. any answer is better than not knowing0
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soo any luck when rewards will be sent out? Submitted a ticked asking, they told me to ask here.Pk'ers are RED,
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DoggieStylz - Sanctuary wrote: »soo any luck when rewards will be sent out? Submitted a ticked asking, they told me to ask here.
... Is the ticket staff's new thing to just redirect everyone to ask on the forum? Friggin swear. >.>!(Insert fancy image here)
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Well the forums are for asking questions, simple questions shouldn't be submitted via ticket ever, think of how frustrated the support must be. " Hi gm's can you tell me what wine i need for fb69?"0
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Kalopsia - Dreamweaver wrote: »Well the forums are for asking questions, simple questions shouldn't be submitted via ticket ever, think of how frustrated the support must be. " Hi gm's can you tell me what wine i need for fb69?"
... Is it wrong that I was sorely tempted to actually submit that as a ticket? b:sad(Insert fancy image here)0 -
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can we get new prizes its been the same for a very long time like starting next season winners can we get something actualy usefull. its been the same weps that u get for forever now theres nothing new besides if your faction won last season u get junk pet0
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DoggieStylz - Sanctuary wrote: »soo any luck when rewards will be sent out? Submitted a ticked asking, they told me to ask here.
Rewards should be sent out fairly soon. Waiting on some database pulls, so we're aiming for sometime next week. Sorry for the delay.0 -
If you were apart of the winning faction but left it before rewards were sent out will you still get tw reward?0
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freezezone wrote: »If you were apart of the winning faction but left it before rewards were sent out will you still get tw reward?
Yes so long as you were there in the final weeks of the season.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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... Is the ticket staff's new thing to just redirect everyone to ask on the forum? Friggin swear. >.>!
Go work for the staff Kossy. =P
@Rest of crying babies that want MOARRRRRR!!! Can't you just say thank you?? There's was not even prize before, there's factions that did own the ENTIRE map before that 6 months thing and they got nothing for that achievement.
On that WTB TW server vs server!!!
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