Hypothetical cross server TW

Eoria - Harshlands
Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
edited April 2014 in Dawnglory (EU)
Assuming 80v80, who would you put in for a server vs. server TW? What kind of squad setups would you use? What sort of strategy? Etc. Also keep in mind, can be people from any guild. Think of the server as a whole, not just one guild.




And please don't turn this into a ten page e-peen contest. I don't care about it.
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  • JustAllEvil - Harshlands
    JustAllEvil - Harshlands Posts: 340 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Cata 1:

    Daitron, Eoria, Chaosbebei, Hunterbojan, September, ShootnBlanks, Fierce_Deity, Sparklecat, Manii, TIME

    Cata 2:

    Civicnos, Yuyi, Jekel, Kazumadavis, Csykotic, JustAllEvil, KuruTu, Longknife, Zhenji, WizSoul

    Def:

    Untamed_Pav, PrincessKat, llHunterll, Curses, VenomousKat, thelegend, Tumsy, ChevaIier, SoulFeast, /Kyra\

    Def 2:

    Shibikitty, Maiden_MM, Wilrak, TravesT, NikiaMyth, Kyree, Asuruaie, Eclipse, Amarath, Birds

    Def 3:

    Rayne_, ColdEP, hoby, WiskrBisquit, Nanaki_XIII, Milfhound, Jinyuan, , Domo_kun, SummerSnowC

    Def 4:

    Holographic, shilarex, Booyah, Evilocity_, Elrick_Moon, Icie_Storm, Hysa, DeathsDream, Nilat, Kurses

    Def 5:

    Grey_Alpha, tankinator

    Basebuffers:

    Fallen_Faith, MeganBR



    Sins: SyntherosX, FinalSnake, JackieK, IsaukiKage (I don't know how to spell it :/), killsyouback, TwistedVyon


    I would have one cata go up A, one up B. Switch gates as needed depending on enemy opposition.

    Sins would be instructed to scout and take down clerics from behind. Clerics in Def 4 and 5 would be ordered to SoG and sleep heavier enemy DDs.


    (I'm assuming people would obey orders and not fight each other in this scenario; apologies for spelling any names wrong; nor do I have any experience making TW decisions)
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Birds? Isn't that Crimson one shot cleric? I heal better than her on my mystic.

    Mystics are getting OP, I'm not saying that a TW should have 50 mystics, but more than one could be really useful.

    There's some pretty bad people in your list, so I will assume you did put them there cause they are your friends.

    ---

    It would be really fun to be able to fight other servers in TW/NW or PVP, I hope in the future they try to make something inter servers.
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  • JustAllEvil - Harshlands
    JustAllEvil - Harshlands Posts: 340 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »
    Birds? Isn't that Crimson one shot cleric? I heal better than her on my mystic.

    Mystics are getting OP, I'm not saying that a TW should have 50 mystics, but more than one could be really useful.

    There's some pretty bad people in your list, so I will assume you did put them there cause they are your friends.

    ---

    It would be really fun to be able to fight other servers in TW/NW or PVP, I hope in the future they try to make something inter servers.

    I didn't choose people on biases, there are plenty of people on that list I don't like. And um, my brain drew a blank on clerics at that moment. >.< You can replace her, k?

    You're welcome to make your own list. :P
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    JustAllEvil - Harshlands wrote: »
    I didn't choose people on biases, there are plenty of people on that list I don't like. And um, my brain drew a blank on clerics at that moment. >.< You can replace her, k?

    You're welcome to make your own list. :P

    Kevyy. =3
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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I would just send CJr and CJr would win without even attending.
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    She forgot Doom_Panda too. D=

    Meanie Jae. :<

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  • Jekel - Harshlands
    Jekel - Harshlands Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Basebuffer - shilarex
    Scout - JackieK

    Cata 1:

    Jekel
    PERDITION (cata)
    BULTEN (cata)
    Ascella
    Yuyi
    FinalSnake
    hunterbojan
    Curses
    JustallEvil
    /Eclipse/

    Cata 2:

    wampirewoman
    Eoria
    _Fenris_ (cata)
    Vikkram (cata)
    SyntherosX
    OpSy
    OngXa
    chaosbeibei
    Ninrax
    Zhenji

    Offense 1:

    TravesT
    Akira_Green
    thelegend
    Disposition_
    NikiaMyth
    Septemberr
    Nilat
    Ithil
    KuruTu
    Chaoking

    Offense 2:

    NeedtoSmoke
    bitewarrior
    Mani
    Csykotik
    kevyy
    AnhYeu
    Chevalier
    Untamed_Pav
    Mirajane_
    TheHellRazor

    Defesnse 1:

    Sylphial
    TIME
    gomba
    Kazumadavis
    Datrion
    Milfhound
    Nemki
    Tumsy
    ColdEP
    Wytche

    Defense 2:

    Barbapapa
    Kokki
    BOOOYAH
    Penot
    Sparklecat
    Fallen_Faith
    lugio
    Longknife
    Fetishes
    Ikazuchikage

    Defense 3: 9 people in this squad

    WizSoul
    Soulfeast
    Shibikitty
    Amore_
    tankinator
    Marcefox
    Tiriany
    killyouback
    Verena


    Defense 4: 9 people in this squad

    \/\/icc/\_
    Hysa
    ECUADAN
    MissCherie
    MakiseKurisu
    SummerSnowC
    Aware
    CIVICNOS
    WuShen
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Jekel - Harshlands wrote: »
    Basebuffer - shilarex

    That made me lol. XD
    Jekel - Harshlands wrote: »
    Offense 2:

    NeedtoSmoke
    bitewarrior
    Mani
    Csykotik
    kevyy
    AnhYeu
    Chevalier
    Untamed_Pav
    Mirajane_
    TheHellRazor

    Defesnse 1:

    Sylphial
    TIME
    AnhYeu
    Kazumadavis
    Datrion
    Milfhound
    Nemki
    Tumsy
    ColdEP
    Wytche

    She must be pro in 2 squads at the same time.

    I would put Chevalier in squad too.
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  • Wampirewoman - Harshlands
    Wampirewoman - Harshlands Posts: 269 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Jekel u should find spots for Fetishes and sparklecat ... hope i wrote the names right b:shocked

    Bella we r both blind ... chevy is in off 2 so sparkle in def 2 :D
  • Viktorian - Archosaur
    Viktorian - Archosaur Posts: 746 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Wampirewoman - Harshlands wrote: »
    Jekel u should find spots for Fetishes and sparklecat ... hope i wrote the names right b:shocked

    Bella we r both blind ... chevy is in off 2 so sparkle in def 2 :D

    fetishes is in def 2 as well
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  • TerrormodeON - Harshlands
    TerrormodeON - Harshlands Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    i`m suprised i`m not in any of the teams :/
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Wampirewoman - Harshlands wrote: »

    Bella we r both blind ... chevy is in off 2 so sparkle in def 2 :D

    Nah we are not blind, Jekel did ninja edited the squads. =P
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  • Jekel - Harshlands
    Jekel - Harshlands Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I only edited AnhYeu cuz she was in 2 squads, the rest u guys were blind.. :)
  • JustAllEvil - Harshlands
    JustAllEvil - Harshlands Posts: 340 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I see one player that quit, otherwise not really sure of any criticism/suggestions of Jekel's picks.

    And not sure if that's included in Eoria's hypothetical rules or not so it doesn't matter.

    A cross-server TW would be fun..

    It's an interesting puzzle to guess teams, more people should try. :P
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    You can criticize. As I said, just don't turn it into a ten page e-peen contest.
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  • JustAllEvil - Harshlands
    JustAllEvil - Harshlands Posts: 340 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »
    You can criticize. As I said, just don't turn it into a ten page e-peen contest.

    Wasn't sure at the moment of any constructive criticism is what I meant, sorry. No worries, just a fun puzzle to me, no e-peen contest needed. Although I think SyntherosX would be better in Offense than Cata...

    If this in theory was against LC, I do think our strengths are archers and venos, they do have better sins. So we would need to keep a closer eye on clerics and venos than normal. (I am not familiar enough with the other servers to guess)
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  • Dr_red - Harshlands
    Dr_red - Harshlands Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Jekel - Harshlands wrote: »
    Basebuffer - shilarex lolololol
    Scout - Longknife


    Offense Lead: Curses/Jekel Defense Lead: Shootnblanks Cata Lead: Fenris/PERDITION/Pav

    Cata 1:

    Jekel
    PERDITION (cata) Might switch Pav to cata and perdition to face wreck barb)
    BULTEN (cata)
    Ascella
    Yuyi
    FinalSnake
    hunterbojan
    Curses
    JustallEvil
    /Eclipse/

    Cata 2:

    wampirewoman
    Eoria
    _Fenris_ (cata)
    Cycnus (cata)
    SyntherosX
    OpSy
    OngXa
    chaosbeibei
    Ninrax
    Zhenji

    Offense 1:

    TravesT
    Akira_Green
    thelegend
    Disposition_
    NikiaMyth
    Septemberr
    Nilat
    Ithil
    KuruTu
    Chaoking

    Offense 2:

    NeedtoSmoke
    bitewarrior
    Mani
    Csykotik
    kevyy
    AnhYeu
    Chevalier
    Untamed_Pav
    Mirajane_
    TheHellRazor

    Defesnse 1:

    Sylphial
    Sirona
    gomba
    Kazumadavis
    wolfbrian
    Milfhound
    Nemki
    Tumsy
    ColdEP
    Wytche

    Defense 2:

    Barbapapa
    Kokki
    BOOOYAH
    Penot
    Sparklecat
    Fallen_Faith
    lugio
    Eternal Agony
    Fetishes
    Ikazuchikage

    Defense 3: 9 people in this squad

    WizSoul
    Soulfeast
    Shibikitty eehhhhhh..for lack of better option i guess?
    Amore_
    LordVoltor
    Marcefox
    Tiriany
    killyouback
    xCascada

    Defense 4: 9 people in this squad

    \/\/icc/\_
    Mystique
    ECUADAN
    MissCherie
    MakiseKurisu
    SummerSnowC
    Aware
    CIVICNOS
    Noobinha

    Honorable Subs:

    Kalyptica, tankinator interchangeable with any of the +12 mages.
    Vikkram, Wollfo if active.
    BubbIez better sin, but less gear.
    Nocturnal?? interchangeable with any mystic except Ninrax.
    Kinkkats any good in tw? idk Zhenjo maybe?
  • Boomz - Harshlands
    Boomz - Harshlands Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I'd be willing to do cata or attack squad on a cross server tw, all those other wizzies are trash b:angry

    edit: this will happen the day that pigs can fly.... *strikes out and replaces with "when we get cross-server nw"*
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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Jekel - Harshlands wrote: »

    Defense 2:

    Barbapapa
    Kokki
    BOOOYAH
    Penot
    Sparklecat
    Fallen_Faith
    lugio
    Longknife
    Fetishes
    Ikazuchikage


    If this was intended then well played, good sir.


    Also there's nothing wrong with Jackie and shila as scout and basebuffer but Lutirica and MeganBR are both boss at those jobs, Jackie's pretty good at cleric harassing/distracting too. On a more serious note, don't even include Fetishes in the list. This isn't personal bias speaking; if you're afraid to die, you don't belong in TW, especially not on a Psy. Your team needs people willing to cover you and cover your retreat, not dudes focused on some broken KPD mechanic and how to pad it. Any well-geared Psy could take his place and do well with proper guidance.

    Scouts legit need to trash talk. You might all think I'm crazy but let's be real: people rage over stupid ****. You trash talk on scout? You negate the ragers. Can't remember if it was Kylin or Crimson but one of those wars I legit got an entire squad to say "**** the TW let's tell this guy off" and I felt like the most useful **** ever.
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  • Sparklecat - Harshlands
    Sparklecat - Harshlands Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Jekel - Harshlands wrote: »
    Basebuffer - shilarex
    Scout - JackieK

    Cata 1:

    Jekel
    PERDITION (cata)
    BULTEN (cata)
    Ascella
    Yuyi
    FinalSnake
    hunterbojan
    Curses
    JustallEvil
    /Eclipse/

    Cata 2:

    wampirewoman
    Eoria
    _Fenris_ (cata)
    Vikkram (cata)
    SyntherosX
    OpSy
    OngXa
    chaosbeibei
    Ninrax
    Zhenji

    Offense 1:

    TravesT
    Akira_Green
    thelegend
    Disposition_
    NikiaMyth
    Septemberr
    Nilat
    Ithil
    KuruTu
    Chaoking

    Offense 2:

    NeedtoSmoke
    bitewarrior
    Mani
    Csykotik
    kevyy
    AnhYeu
    Chevalier
    Untamed_Pav
    Mirajane_
    TheHellRazor

    Defesnse 1:

    Sylphial
    TIME
    gomba
    Kazumadavis
    Datrion
    Milfhound
    Nemki
    Tumsy
    ColdEP
    Wytche

    Defense 2:

    Barbapapa
    Kokki
    BOOOYAH
    Penot
    Sparklecat
    Fallen_Faith
    lugio
    Longknife
    Fetishes
    Ikazuchikage

    Defense 3: 9 people in this squad

    WizSoul
    Soulfeast
    Shibikitty
    Amore_
    tankinator
    Marcefox
    Tiriany
    killyouback
    Verena


    Defense 4: 9 people in this squad

    \/\/icc/\_
    Hysa
    ECUADAN
    MissCherie
    MakiseKurisu
    SummerSnowC
    Aware
    CIVICNOS
    WuShen

    Wait noo put me back on offense Jekel b:cry. On topic: With a few changes, this list would be pretty decent.
  • Boomz - Harshlands
    Boomz - Harshlands Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    You might all think I'm crazy but let's be real: people rage over stupid ****.

    Congrats you finally just defined your entire faction. b:laugh
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  • Burnout - Harshlands
    Burnout - Harshlands Posts: 2,585 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Boomz - Harshlands wrote: »
    Congrats you finally just defined your entire faction. b:laugh

    You mean that time you lost to a +7 barb and logged off immediately to make a QQ post on forums wasn't raging over stupid ****?

    Or that time you got so tired of being insta-killed by mystics that you made another QQ post about wood magic not having enough counters? xD
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  • slamstone
    slamstone Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    i still cant get over that barb's almighty seal and that holy path speed b:chuckle so OP

    but to be on topic i'dd put:

    zhenji instead of evil

    sparklecat instead of zhenji

    maybe chevalier to switch places with ninrax

    killsyouback instead of coldep

    coldep instead of amore.
    added

    gyrovage could better replace needtosmoke in the current conditions

    jekel switching from cata 1 to offense 1 with travest (for more firepower in off 1)

    eclipse switching from cata 1 to offense 2 with mirajane (same reasoning)

    actually if i think better why the hell cata 1 and cata 2 need so much firepower? isn't the purpose of offense teams to have the max fire and the catas max survivability with a minimum firepower?
  • JustAllEvil - Harshlands
    JustAllEvil - Harshlands Posts: 340 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    slamstone wrote: »
    i still cant get over that barb's almighty seal and that holy path speed b:chuckle so OP

    but to be on topic i'dd put:

    zhenji instead of evil

    sparklecat instead of zhenji

    maybe chevalier to switch places with ninrax

    killsyouback instead of coldep

    coldep instead of amore.

    Sparkle is in Def2, so you would have to replace them.

    I don't agree much with putting sparkle in cata in this hypothetical scenario though, both Zhenji and I are capable of surviving longer and decent venos. (Zhenji is much better) I don't think sparkle is bad though and feel their squad placement is appropriate as is.
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »


    Also there's nothing wrong with Jackie and shila as scout and basebuffer

    I assume you don't know why shila left infa. XD

    And for the same reasons than Fet I would remove Wytche from the list, his K/D r is too important for him that he would prefer lose TW than die.

    Also for Jae list, I would switch Longknife and Curses, Longknife is good at leading defense and Curses is good at leading Offense.


    slamstone wrote: »
    maybe chevalier to switch places with ninrax

    Jekel did put Ninrax in cata for a reason, Ninrax play his mystic like a cleric, Chev doesn't.

    I think Ninrax is good at what he does, but I don't think it's what a mystic should do, my opinion is Ninrax is use as ''cleric'' cause Infa lack of good clerics. (all HL lack of skilled clerics not just Infa)

    A lot of mystics are forced into a cleric's role cause the clerics on HL sucks. Mystic can be good at it as much as a cleric, but it's such a waste, mystics can do so much more than just healing.

    Mystics are great healers, but using a mystic as healer cause of the lack of good clerics is kinda showing HL's weakness, we lack of support classes that know how to play. Clerics, BMs, venos and mystics that know how to play their class correctly are rare.
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Mystic is pretty much dependent on where they're placed, tbh. In a cata squad, I would say their role is, yes, to primarily function as a support healer and make sure clerics+catas stay alive via heals/res buff and protecting clerics from sins via knockback and their multitude of CC. 'Cause, you know, the only thing that matters is keeping catas alive to DD on towers/crystal.

    In a defense squad, you would work to output as much CC as possible and probably try to snipe off clerics if possible. Or essentially function as a magic BM.
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  • Burnout - Harshlands
    Burnout - Harshlands Posts: 2,585 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Ninrax really should just reroll cleric...

    He's is the one mystic I refuse to bring to any pve, because he will literally just sit there and spam un-needed heals on everyone when I would rather have him dps'ing with a storm mistress + nukes so the FSP doesn't take half an hour. Nevermind that the cleric is already under blue ball and everyone is at full hp.

    My slowest recorded run ever was with him and Bebes in squad. I set my bot up for mushi using trip-NV-AS, came back 10 minutes later and it was still at 40% hp, and I was tanking it, while he was still spamming heals on full hp targets. WTF?
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Burnout - Harshlands wrote: »
    Ninrax really should just reroll cleric...

    He's is the one mystic I refuse to bring to any pve, because he will literally just sit there and spam un-needed heals on everyone when I would rather have him dps'ing with a storm mistress + nukes so the FSP doesn't take half an hour. Nevermind that the cleric is already under blue ball and everyone is at full hp.

    My slowest recorded run ever was with him and Bebes in squad. I set my bot up for mushi using trip-NV-AS, came back 10 minutes later and it was still at 40% hp, and I was tanking it, while he was still spamming heals on full hp targets. WTF?

    The only time a mystic should heal (as solo/main healer) should be when there's no cleric in squad or if needed, if I was the cleric in a squad and see him mainly heal I would start to metal mage, specially FSP doesn't need more than one healer.

    That happen that I'll just heal, but in situation like the PVP we had on the mountain in OHT last week, we was getting **** than I switch and only healed and we won that fight, but I did it cause we had no cleric and Infa had 2.
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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Burnout - Harshlands wrote: »
    You mean that time you lost to a +7 barb and logged off immediately to make a QQ post on forums wasn't raging over stupid ****?

    Or that time you got so tired of being insta-killed by mystics that you made another QQ post about wood magic not having enough counters? xD

    Boomz just mad cause there's no way in hell anyone would ever include him on their list.
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  • Bebes - Harshlands
    Bebes - Harshlands Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Burnout - Harshlands wrote: »
    Ninrax really should just reroll cleric...

    He's is the one mystic I refuse to bring to any pve, because he will literally just sit there and spam un-needed heals on everyone when I would rather have him dps'ing with a storm mistress + nukes so the FSP doesn't take half an hour. Nevermind that the cleric is already under blue ball and everyone is at full hp.

    My slowest recorded run ever was with him and Bebes in squad. I set my bot up for mushi using trip-NV-AS, came back 10 minutes later and it was still at 40% hp, and I was tanking it, while he was still spamming heals on full hp targets. WTF?

    What does this have to do w/ nin being in TW line up...Surely there are two variations to being a mystic class( healer/dd) you just don't like his and um have to post this personal vendetta for?

    Also, ninrax isn't put in cata squads because "infa doesn't have good clerics" (although you're allowed to your opinion), we just know what kind of player he is and he realizes the importance of res buff, knockback bm/sins, and healing clerics. Basically lifting some weight of clerics.

    With that being here's my insta-win listb:victory

    Scout: JackieK
    BB: bebesb:thanks

    Cata 1: Curses(lead) Jekel, Bulten, Untamed_Pav, Ascella, Ithil, Zhenji, OpSy, Ninrax, Aware

    Cata 2: wampirewoman(lead), Eoria, MissCherrie, _Fenris_, PERDITION, penot, Ecuadan, cykotik, gyrovague, EternalAgony

    Offense 1: Akira_Green(lead), TravesT, JAE, Nilat, ChaoKing, Hellrazor, gomba, Yuyi, TraVain, september

    Offense 2: Manii(lead), wolfbrian, nikiamyth,, chevalier, Lordfable, Makisekurisu, kevvy, MrHoomback, Overhealed, Husquarna

    O/D : OngXa(lead), AnhYeu, Wizsoul, ****tyKitty(shibbi), HunterBojan, bitewarrior, Quikshot, Ithil, _nina_, nocturnal

    Def 1: Syphial(lead), marcefox, kokki, princesskat, kurutu, FinalSnake, HellQueen, /Elcipse/, LordVoltor, darkfog

    Def 2: LongKnife(lead), sparklekat, beibei, ColdEP, Poula, BOOOYAH, ikazuchikage, needtosmoke, seeker_king

    Def 3: Barbapapa( lead), Tumsy, kazumadavis, soulfeast, milfhound, kalyptica, cascada, siriona, datrion

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