RE: QUEST BLOCKING /PKING DURING EVENTS! (GMs DO NOTHING)

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  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited February 2014
    It's not my play style, but I do know that stopping the competition from advancing is a legitimate play style. I'm a gamer, and I don't approve of telling others how they have to play the game. Different tactics for different people.

    Waiting further clarification on the events thing, but as I know it the rule is just about harassment not about general PK.
    I'm wondering what you think about non-personal camping? I indiscriminately camp people who are part of certain factions (and yes, this includes quest blocking) but I rarely respond to their rages and don't really care who they are. (In truth, I'm usually afk outside safe zone in those said quest spots mainly due to the fact that only 3-4 people on the entire server are even willing to attack me, yet I've somehow been accused of quest blocking even while afk. Go figure.)

    Does putting someone on /follow in a SZ then going afk count as harassment as well? I came back like 15 minutes later and the person was raging extremely hard accusing me of stalking him, and said he reported me, even though I wasn't even at the computer.

    Just want some official responses so I can refer back to them if needed.

    LOL? What! How can that even....I'll ask just so they can get a laugh out of that but I'm pretty damn certain that no, putting someone on follow is not harassment.

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  • natourious
    natourious Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    The drops from that event can be picked by anyone. If you don't want to deal with pk or call your faction, make a blue name and loot drops. It's not hard.

    you just said the drops can be picked up by anyone..... not if they are being blocked from picking up the drops because they are pked ..... (TRY AGAIN) the Terms of service state "Take any action that disrupts the Service or that negatively affects or may prohibit other users from enjoying the Website, the Games or any other aspect of the Service." is the event not a apsec6t of the game and is the rewards from the event not a aspect of the game ? it does not say Create a blue named toon to get the drops!
  • Keileena_PL - Harshlands
    Keileena_PL - Harshlands Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I'm wondering what you think about non-personal camping? I indiscriminately camp people who are part of certain factions (and yes, this includes quest blocking) but I rarely respond to their rages and don't really care who they are. (In truth, I'm usually afk outside safe zone in those said quest spots mainly due to the fact that only 3-4 people on the entire server are even willing to attack me, yet I've somehow been accused of quest blocking even while afk. Go figure.)

    Does putting someone on /follow in a SZ then going afk count as harassment as well? I came back like 15 minutes later and the person was raging extremely hard accusing me of stalking him, and said he reported me, even though I wasn't even at the computer.

    Just want some official responses so I can refer back to them if needed.

    One girl accused me that i'm stalking her cuz im always standing at same AH npc b:laugh
  • Burnout - Harshlands
    Burnout - Harshlands Posts: 2,585 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    natourious wrote: »
    you just said the drops can be picked up by anyone..... not if they are being blocked from picking up the drops because they are pked ..... (TRY AGAIN) the Terms of service state "Take any action that disrupts the Service or that negatively affects or may prohibit other users from enjoying the Website, the Games or any other aspect of the Service." is the event not a apsec6t of the game and is the rewards from the event not a aspect of the game ? it does not say Create a blue named toon to get the drops!

    To be fair though, since you did roll on a pvp server, it is assumed that you enjoy PK (as well as getting pk'ed, it goes both ways), as that is a HUGE aspect of the game on a pk server, possibly even more important than the said quest/items.

    What aren't aspects of the game are stuff like "threatening to kill someone IRL", spamming them with lewd or sexual pms, filling chat with racist/vulgar comments, etc. Those aren't built into the game mechanics directly and is more a result of it being impossible to properly monitor all communications without being overly restrictive on freedoms.

    You probably won't believe it, but there are people on Harshlands who enjoy getting pk'ed and blocked while questing, calling their factionmates and friends in to retaliate, then turning it into a massive pk war, all over a single quest spot.

    Honestly, If you're factionless and a true newbie, most people on the server will leave you alone.
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  • Chuck_smith - Sanctuary
    Chuck_smith - Sanctuary Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Looks like someone is on the worst server of PWI, It's a PVP server dude, if you don't want that to happen frequently, go to LC since you prefer PVP servers? b:embarrass

    Kind of funny, where PVP servers have harassment problems and PVE servers have bot problems, Lol.
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  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    If your problem is being PKed during Assault, while white named because of doing the carriage event... this is clearly a case of poor planning. Either stay white named the previous day until you've done carriage event on the Assault day, or wait to do the carriage event until after Assault.
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  • Rapeaxe - Harshlands
    Rapeaxe - Harshlands Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    natourious wrote: »
    why is that the GMs will not do there jobs?? there is countless tickets submitted about (members of a certain faction NOT NAMED BECAUSE OMG WE CANT CALL GROUPS OUT FOR THE INFRACTIONS) on the harshlands server Quest blocking and pking during events ?? Have they not read there own damn rules ?? They tell you PKing during events is not allowed BUT THEY DO NOTHING ABOUT IT ! AND I DO MEAN NOTHING ! its back to the same ole **** of spend enuff money you can do as you want ... the rules do not apply to you! while the rest of us spend money and follow the rules but get screwed out of the events because of the ones who do not follow the rules! GMS GET OFF YOUR BYASS BUTTS AND ENFORCE YA OWN DAMN RULES!-snip-

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  • Rosie_Caster - Harshlands
    Rosie_Caster - Harshlands Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I am convinced at least half of this server should have rolled on a pve server instead.

    im not a pkr
    I don't like getting pkd
    does it bother me that I get pkd. not really. because I can always fight back
    I die in the prosses, but oh well.
    I have played on pve server and was so bored I went back to pvp since its more fun there
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    natourious wrote: »
    you just said the drops can be picked up by anyone..... not if they are being blocked from picking up the drops because they are pked ..... (TRY AGAIN) the Terms of service state "Take any action that disrupts the Service or that negatively affects or may prohibit other users from enjoying the Website, the Games or any other aspect of the Service." is the event not a apsec6t of the game and is the rewards from the event not a aspect of the game ? it does not say Create a blue named toon to get the drops!

    You misinterpreted my post.

    The drops do not have a drop timer like most mob drops do. You can pick them at any time regardless of whether or not you killed it.

    Please reroll to a pve server if this is really that big of a deal.
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  • natourious
    natourious Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited February 2014


    wonder if this is a alt of one of the ones that do the pking at events because the are to scared the might reveal who they are ??

    just shows how mature people are that try to make light of a very valid point .
  • natourious
    natourious Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    You misinterpreted my post.

    The drops do not have a drop timer like most mob drops do. You can pick them at any time regardless of whether or not you killed it.

    Please reroll to a pve server if this is really that big of a deal.



    lol ahh such a easy way to slove a problem tell them to go else where so the ones who are causeing the problem can continue .

    and there is no reason for anyone to need to come back later just to be able to do a quest or be part of a event or receive the rewards from a event because certain factions can break the terms of service .
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    It was me.

    I shot everyone. b:cute b:victory

    Still waiting on those bans everyone's always claiming I'm gonna get for sure.
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    natourious wrote: »
    lol ahh such a easy way to slove a problem tell them to go else where so the ones who are causeing the problem can continue .

    It's not breaking the terms of service. The ONLY instance where pk is breaking the terms of service is if they are literally stalking you all over the map to kill you, i.e. you go to Angler's, they're there to kill you; you go to Heaven, they're there to kill you; you go to some bum**** nowhere town in Tellus area, they're there to kill you; and so on over an extended period of time. Take note that if you're provoking them that the GMs will likely throw out your ticket entirely and tell you to take a hike.

    I'm not going to get banned if, say, I decided to sit in at one of the Primal dailies for an hour to kill people for lulz. I'm not going to get banned if I kill you at an event that takes place outside of sz just because I decided I didn't like your face that day. These are not grounds for bans.
    and there is no reason for anyone to need to come back later just to be able to do a quest or be part of a event or receive the rewards from a event because certain factions can break the terms of service .

    Congratulations. You picked a pvp server. This is what being on a pvp server entails. You can be killed outside of sz at any time after level 30. Don't like it? Reroll pve server.
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  • MissCherie - Harshlands
    MissCherie - Harshlands Posts: 468 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    PKing is not against any rules.

    Harassment is.

    Steps to follow if getting pk harass by someone:

    1-SS every deaths cause by the pker. (including the damage log)

    2-Ask POLITELY the person to stop.

    ^ Majority of QQers fail at that step.

    If you get pk many times and pm the pker ''GO DIE IRL YOU SCUM BAG, YOUR MOM IS ******* MY ****, YOU F**** MORON, I'M GETTING YOU BAN'', first of all the pker won't get ban cause he didn't get ask politely to stop, second of all you are the one who risk to get ban, third of all I remember people complaining on forum getting ban after they did report a pker cause they was the one that did insult and threat (which is against the rules) the pker, while pking is not against the rules.

    90% of the people that get pk on HL nvm events, quests or what doesn't ask the pker to stop, they start to trash talk, insult and treat.

    3-SS the person continuing to pk after you did ask POLITELY to stop.

    So by the language of the OP I'm pretty sure he didn't ask politely the pker to stop, but sound more like the kind of person that trash talk, insult and threat when get pk.

    Good luck with that.
  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited February 2014
    And the answer to the question is no, that's allowed. See the sticky for more details.
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1670651

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