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Sarrafeline - SanctuarySarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
edited January 2014 in General Discussion
Seeing how two servers have recently had rollbacks, I'm afraid to do mostly anything. I'm afraid to buy items because there's a chance they could vanish. I'm afraid to sell anything because I'm afraid the coin will poof.

Leveling is about the only thing I'm not worried about. If the levels poof, it's guaranteed to have 4x or 5x or 10x or whatever. But refining, buying or selling big items is out. Takes too much effort to sell stuff today, and I'm short coins so not really buying big items either.
Post edited by Sarrafeline - Sanctuary on
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85 Psy/80 Mystic
And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
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  • Mayfly - DreamweaverMayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Both servers that had rollbacks had major problems before the rollback occurred. As long as your server doesn't have multiple instances crashing, it's unlikely to get rolled back.
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  • _dblazen_ - Dreamweaver_dblazen_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 566 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Soon(tm).
  • SylenThunder - Twilight TempleSylenThunder - Twilight Temple Supprot Guru Posts: 7,908
    edited January 2014
    Lack of reliable support is the second primary reason I've mostly quit playing.
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  • Azura - Lost CityAzura - Lost City Posts: 2,281 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Both servers that had rollbacks had major problems before the rollback occurred. As long as your server doesn't have multiple instances crashing, it's unlikely to get rolled back.

    That's true, so if your server starts having instance crashes like Morai and Archosaur were having before, it's better to stop playing until the inevitable error in the database occurs.
  • Desdi - SanctuaryDesdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Brace yourselves, the end is near.

    It's true though, both servers showed signs of problems before the rollback occurred. Sanctuary has been working fine.
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  • Deceptistar - SanctuaryDeceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    *poof*
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  • Annalyse - Heavens TearAnnalyse - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,618 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Both servers that had rollbacks had major problems before the rollback occurred. As long as your server doesn't have multiple instances crashing, it's unlikely to get rolled back.

    Exactly this.

    If you start having problems on your server like instances not being open, people getting stuck inside instances, etc. then I would probably at that point start being careful or take a break. If things are working fine as they currently are, then don't worry about it.

    And you'll know the minute it happens if instances are messing up. Just watch world chat because people will be freaking out about getting stuck. Things like that tend to happen to a bunch of places at once.
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  • MagicEmpress - Lost CityMagicEmpress - Lost City Posts: 795 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Both servers that had rollbacks had major problems before the rollback occurred. As long as your server doesn't have multiple instances crashing, it's unlikely to get rolled back.
    So everything is fine so long as an instance like say WS is working just great?
    b:thanks
  • Angel_Spawn - SanctuaryAngel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Brace yourselves, the end is near.

    It's true though, both servers showed signs of problems before the rollback occurred. Sanctuary has been working fine.

    Don`t jinx it b:surrender
  • Sarrafeline - SanctuarySarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    With Sanctuary's luck, it would roll back to like 2009 or something. I couldn't imagine the amount of RQ that would happen after that...
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    100 Demon BM*/Barb
    96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
    95 Demon Wiz/
    94 Sage Veno
    85 Psy/80 Mystic
    And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
    *Pre RB level
  • Deceptistar - SanctuaryDeceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    With Sanctuary's luck, it would roll back to like 2009 or something. I couldn't imagine the amount of RQ that would happen after that...
    half the characters would not exist due to expansions lol b:cool
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  • Sarrafeline - SanctuarySarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    half the characters would not exist due to expansions lol b:cool

    Exactly.

    And I'd have one of the highest level venos on the server, at least for 10 minutes until everyone hit instant 100 from 10X/whatever compensation was awarded.
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    100 Demon BM*/Barb
    96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
    95 Demon Wiz/
    94 Sage Veno
    85 Psy/80 Mystic
    And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
    *Pre RB level
  • Kitsusha - SanctuaryKitsusha - Sanctuary Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    You must never fear the end.

    Server roll backs are the equivalent of a near death/fatal experience IRL.

    Only now, there's a chance to get several tries.

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  • trandstrands Posts: 2
    edited January 2014
    Seeing how two servers have recently had rollbacks, I'm afraid to do mostly anything. I'm afraid to buy items because there's a chance they could vanish. I'm afraid to sell anything because I'm afraid the coin will poof.

    Leveling is about the only thing I'm not worried about. If the levels poof, it's guaranteed to have 4x or 5x or 10x or whatever. But refining, buying or selling big items is out. Takes too much effort to sell stuff today, and I'm short coins so not really buying big items either.

    A risk is composed of a probability and an impact. The probability is low seeing it happened 2x in a few years. The impact is limited, both times it was just a couple of days that were "lost" since PWE does seem to have backups. Are you really going to have your game ruled by such a small risk ? Dramatise much b:laugh

    You encounter way more important risk every day RL. If you don't advance because you could be going in the wrong direction, you'll never get anywhere. Might as well uninstal directly because 1 day your effort will be in vain. Whether it's a new game, pwi stopping or your RL that changes, all your effort will mean nothing at some point.
  • Sizzer - Raging TideSizzer - Raging Tide Posts: 2,387 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Few days ago the way Raging Tide started lagging i thought we're also gone like Morai. But thankfully nope & yes now after doing any major update to my character i take screenshots of it just incase there's a roll-back i can present it to the Support GMs and get my items BACK.
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  • HideYoHubby - ArchosaurHideYoHubby - Archosaur Posts: 995 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    trands wrote: »
    A risk is composed of a probability and an impact. The probability is low seeing it happened 2x in a few years. The impact is limited, both times it was just a couple of days that were "lost" since PWE does seem to have backups. Are you really going to have your game ruled by such a small risk ? Dramatise much b:laugh

    You encounter way more important risk every day RL. If you don't advance because you could be going in the wrong direction, you'll never get anywhere. Might as well uninstal directly because 1 day your effort will be in vain. Whether it's a new game, pwi stopping or your RL that changes, all your effort will mean nothing at some point.

    And these rollbacks happened few months apart while any support/communication from PWE has pretty much ended. This company was never a good one but with the signs we been seeing, the problems are only gonna get worse till PWE starts caring, which doesnt seem too likely.

    Saying like we got 2 rollbacks in few years is more or less idiotic - You can see it everywhere. PWE has always been dropping balls but just look at the last few months. Archo rollback, orb abuse and incompetent GMs banning people they feel like for it. A friend of mine got permaban for trying to abuse the code while he didnt get a single orb. On other hand I know people with 20+ orbs and no bans. Morai issues, which lead to rollback. Warsong is broken. Title expansion, which still isnt working properly - took months to add most of the title chains and we were still missing few things on those chains last I checked. Never forget broken parts of our latest expansion. Or the TW times, scheduling maintenance over Monday TWs, which arent even supposed to happen.

    All in all there are massive issues, glitches and lack of management. Right now we got no communication from the company, clear lack of interest when it comes to issues players bring up. The way whole TW time maintenances were handled alone is a major sign for concern. The first one pissed off players and if PWE staff didnt know bout it, they really dont care what players got to say. If they knew, which is far more likely, they just dont give a sht. The attitude company shows towards players is disgusting. The issues we been recently having are unacceptable. Any concerns players might have over issues and how they have been handled recently are pretty reasonable.

    Ps.If those 2 rollbacks were more apart and there was no change in how common issues are or how much support this game provides from its staff, your argument would be good one. But things are clearly getting worse and I for one actually called Morai rollback week or two ago.
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  • ToyMaker_NOT - Raging TideToyMaker_NOT - Raging Tide Posts: 397 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    All I know is that whatever corrupted those databases happen to creep into RT's, I still have some leftover orb compensation. f:sweat
  • SakuLv - DreamweaverSakuLv - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,400 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    why every1 so scared

    u get 2-3 days roll back.. ok u lose something

    u get 5x next few weeks
    u get ur lost stuff back
    u get more compensation


    o.o nothing scary about that

    Friend in Arch lost 2,5% (i guess for 104 its a lot)
    He lost money and refine

    1 day in that 5x he got 8-10% back
    He got back his money and refine + 3x10* orbs and more ;D
    and he was so happy that PW roll back
  • Annabonana - MoraiAnnabonana - Morai Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    why every1 so scared

    u get 2-3 days roll back.. ok u lose something

    u get 5x next few weeks
    u get ur lost stuff back
    u get more compensation


    o.o nothing scary about that

    Friend in Arch lost 2,5% (i guess for 104 its a lot)
    He lost money and refine

    1 day in that 5x he got 8-10% back
    He got back his money and refine + 3x10* orbs and more ;D
    and he was so happy that PW roll back

    ya that's if you get those orbs. it's worth, othervise you lose **** lots.
  • SakuLv - DreamweaverSakuLv - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,400 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    ya that's if you get those orbs. it's worth, othervise you lose **** lots.

    well in arch every1 got them via email

    then pwi decided to put a code...would of been better via email too but oh well
  • Wickedbrew - Raging TideWickedbrew - Raging Tide Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    In almost two decades of playing MMOs, I will say, the majority of them have had a rollback or two rolling back anywhere from a few hours, to almost a month rolled back. It happens. It's the nature of computer electronic equipment, coding issues, etc.

    As others have stated, if you notice WC becoming explosive with people having issues like stuck in instance, mass DCs, timeouts, and lag to some degree, hold off on doing anything major for a couple of days.
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  • Deceptistar - SanctuaryDeceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Exactly.

    And I'd have one of the highest level venos on the server, at least for 10 minutes until everyone hit instant 100 from 10X/whatever compensation was awarded.
    "nobody panic! im totally safe"
    b:laugh

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