Post your experience with the new cleric skills from New Horizon update !

I got the upgraded bb 'cause it looked pretty. Probably completely skipping Pantheon Blessing for various reasons. Skipping rb for now 'cause I use it every once in a blue moon.



The new Demon Wellspring will be ******n amazing when I get it though. 25 chi per cast, yes please.

I've been mostly focusing on my Venomancer so I haven't done much for Cleric :[

I didn't even bother with my Sage one because it's on the same account as my Venomancer (I wish it wasn't v.v; but made it like 5 years ago before multi clienting ****). Demon one is half-way through the first reawakening and she'll be taken care off later...she does have the new BB though!

Totally agree that new Demon Wellspring is going to be epic! BB increase the healing power of it so it's worth upgrading. RB can wait. I actually want Pantheon thingy for faster rebuffs but that's not a priority either. Great Cyclone is not a priority either because I mostly just TW, full support.

i gave incorret info coff coff ..need vent info to any vent that knows datalec while this friggin download starts n ends

Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »

I got the upgraded bb 'cause it looked pretty. Probably completely skipping Pantheon Blessing for various reasons. Skipping rb for now 'cause I use it every once in a blue moon.



The new Demon Wellspring will be ******n amazing when I get it though. 25 chi per cast, yes please.

Wow, 25 chi per wellspring? OP. They will gain chi maybe faster than mystic heal spamming now xD.

freygin wrote: »

Is there any change for blue ball other than its aesthetic aspect from upgrading ?

Original bb: Use 500 Mana every 5 seconds to recover HP equal to 300 plus
20% of base magic attack every 5 seconds and cut all damage taken
by 50%.

New bb: Use 500 Mana every 5 seconds to recover HP equal to 800 plus
20% of base magic attack every 5 seconds and cut all damage taken
by 50%.


Earth shattering, I know. Still, it's an upgrade.

I have the new BB. I love the increase in power and visibility of its range.

RB, I may get, but its not a priority, as its uses are VERY limited. Good increase in power, but as Fryvorg stated, the cut in range was unnecessary.

Sage Wellspring: I do want this, due to the increase in its healing power, and because purehearted blessing isn't seeing much use from me aside from chi. Demon version is better, due to the massive increase in chi and I do support a reduction in sage's channeling...and an increase in our chi gain from SOR.

Great Cyclone, I do want...however, I'm not terribly focused on it, as I hate violet mode.

That leads to The Multi Buff, which I have every intention of SKIPPING...due to the fact that although the mp buff has been increased...the hp regeneration has been entirely removed from it. So I'll just stick with what I have.

Mhm, pantheon will be interesting for PvP when it comes to rebuffing.

aensidhe wrote: »

Wellspring, cyclone and the passive skills for defense and attack are worth getting. Even the critical rate skills if you have a reasonable crit rate to begin with.

It should be mentioned that the Pantheon skill only is a 'quick' buff if you are in 'safe' conditions with no anticipated purges. Otherwise, with a 30 second cd, it is extremely inefficient.

For example, assume a boss purges squad every few seconds. Current squad buffs can rebuff pretty quickly (and you only need 2 squad buffs in an emergency rebuff). Good luck with a 30s cd replacement.

And this is just a relatively benign situation.

I will get all other skills first and leave Pantheon until I'm convinced otherwise or its cd decreases.

That's 1.5s for channeling and 3 seconds to cast, so 4.5 seconds per buff, or 9 seconds for two buffs. If the boss purges more often than 30 seconds, you're better off stacking heals on your squad instead of wasting so much time on buffing.

But in comparison, in PvP those buffs do make the difference between life in death. If your squad runs out unbuffed, they're going to die that much faster. And if you waste 4.5 seconds to cast each buff instead of fighting, your faction's crystal is going to die that much faster. 5 seconds for all the buffs (that matter) vs 4.5 seconds for JUST ONE. Even factoring in the increased mana cost, increased cooldown, decreased potential chi gain, and nonexistent HP regeneration, this skill seems to be the clear winner to me.

The missing HP regeneration really isn't a big issue in my opinion. When you're fighting, your regen drops down to 2 points per second. How many times have you survived a fight with just 2 HP? The situation where 2 HP per second regeneration makes an actual difference is rare. This buff has no utility even when you can afford to meditate a lot. As a cleric you probably have a lot more points in int than you do in vit, so your mp regen will be quite fast. You can drop 275 mp to heal yourself to full HP because while meditating you'll have those 275 mp back much quicker than if you were waiting for your HP to regenerate to full. This is multiplied tenfold if you have good gear. With 10k HP and 700 mag, you're not even going to see your HP bar moving while you meditate, but your sacrificed MP will be back in a matter of seconds.

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I have the passive skill damage boost skill, but to be honest I wasn't smart enough to look at my damage prior to learning it, so I don't know how much it's actually helping.

The def skill is supposed increase both mdef and pdef by 8% at first level and 2% ever level afterwards. Sounds very useful to me, but maybe I don't understand how these percentages work.

It is learned by trading this page (at the levels indicated on the page) at the mirror in Primal World: http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/42257

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FistToDeath - Dreamweaver wrote: »

So far I got the new BB and the Pantheon Blessing. I'm really happy with the new squad buff. It gives 50chi per cast, which makes up for its long-ish cooldown (30s). Also, really good for TW/NW, when rebuffing will take less than 5s total (as opposed to over 12s/16s if you were to use renewal).

And since you keep your single target buffs, the hp regen won't be missed.

Really looking forward to wellspring and cyclone, though I might get the passive defense skill before getting any of those.

@Eoria: you sure new demon wellspring gives 25 chi?

I think that might be a typo for 25% more chi (like current version gives 20% extra chi). Sage version didn't get any upgrade other than being uninterruptable, which is common with the demon one, so I don't know why they'd give demon such a huge boost. I can't find the book in the database to check the chinese text, though.

Then again, it's pwi. Everything is to be expected.

Edit: Found it in the chinese db. It doesn't mention any %, but also no 25. There's a line there which google translates into "Strength to get improved.", which might mean "Gains extra chi" or something. Nothing really clear at the moment.

Look it up in the in-game encyclopedia. It's 25 chi.

Pantheon's Blessing is OP. 50chi each cast b:chuckle

so I love the new cleric buff b:victory...yes u don't get the crappy hp regain but who cares.(which if any1 realized...it only gives u a boost of like 2hp regain while u're in battle) I like that I can buff my whole squad w/ ALL the buffs in less than 5 seconds instead of sitting there for like 30 seconds hoping every1 stays in place while I buff them. Also I like the fact that it costs LESS MP than using all the old squad buffs. old buffs cost 3300mp ...new buff costs 2400 mp. I also tend to use this skill as a fast chi move simply b/c I can get 50 chi just by using it. I can get 1 spark in less than 5 seconds since I'm a sage cleric. This skill is great in TWs too. For instance, some1 just rezed and another gets purged I can just instant buff them instead of clicking each toon and buffing them individually. the only downsides I see... which is very minimal..is the 30 second cool down time and the fact u don't get the hp regain buff w/ it. (which ignorant squads always complain about so i just use the mp/hp single buff on the complainers)

Nonsense; demon version is an excellent upgrade. Before demon wellspring surge only gave 12 chi; 15 chi is great for a skill that gets spammed during healing in PvP situations. As I suspected, the 25% upgrade is from the demon version: 25% more of 12 is around 15. Bravo! Can't wait to test the vague description of sage out!

Aeliah - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Nonsense; demon version is an excellent upgrade. Before demon wellspring surge only gave 12 chi; 15 chi is great for a skill that gets spammed during healing in PvP situations. As I suspected, the 25% upgrade is from the demon version: 25% more of 12 is around 15. Bravo! Can't wait to test the vague description of sage out!

The description on the skillbook and skill when learned states: "Primal version give 25 chi" for demon; not '25%'. In any case, a bug is a bug is a bug whether on the description or with the mechanics.

Different play styles - some of us don't spam wellspring as it is less suitable in certain PvP situations; especially if not in a channel build. IH is more spammable and runs into less of the 'Invalid Skill' message when spammed. Without the 25 chi, spending the 60 bloods make it less attractive (3 chi increase instead of the 13 advertised increase makes that a no-brainer). Now to test if the heal amount and anti-interruption isn't also bugged.

Btw, the wellspring looks the same as the original =(