Dynasty afraid of Relic?

FistToDeath - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Sorry to prove you wrong, but everyone loves me. b:chuckle

So much so! I love that you're flying, so I can bring you down to the ground as a squirrel. b:cute

Learned a few things, last TW.

Ah ah ah, I didn't say *I* thought Evangile was a drama-maker. I know hardly anything about him (he is a him right?). I'm merely telling you what I've heard from... well... quite a few people. Knowing as little about you as I do, if many people say something about you, it is more likely to be correct than something I would decide in a couple of minutes interaction with you. Prove me wrong if you feel you must, or else if it really isn't important to you, then you can safely ignore what I've said. Your choice.

That aside, don't use a point like that to brush aside my other points, which explain how drama is bad for the longevity of a faction, and that reducing the # of drama-makers correlates with the longevity of a large faction.

Why is Relic automatically at a higher risk than other factions? Loyalty. Relic is a fairly new faction, relatively speaking. A lot of the people who are currently in Relic came, quite recently, from other factions. Lots and lots of other factions.

In comparison, we have guilds like Tempest and Dynasty, which have been around for half a decade. Some of the people, including myself, have been in there for years... and I'm not even close to being one of the oldest Dynasty members. There are people who have been in Dynasty *so* long that their loyalty is without dispute. This creates a solid core for Dynasty as a faction. Some may come, and some may go, but the bulk of those in Dynasty, stay in Dynasty.

Will people be loyal to Relic? Will Relic stick it out for the long run? *MAYBE*. We just don't know yet. Don't mistake a warning for a threat. If Relic leadership is even halfway clever, they realize that for their faction to survive, drama can't be left unchecked. We can all hope that Relic can learn from the mistakes of other factions and find ways to keep their members happy, loyal, and low on drama, similar to Dynasty.

We? Oh yes, we. I'm not looking for Relic's downfall. A stable Relic will make for much more entertaining TWs. Rarely does a server have the privilege of having the two top factions being *so* similar in power. I'm very much looking forward to this season's TW, which is why, again, I hope that you heed my warning, and work to keep Relic a stable faction!

Cheers.

FistToDeath - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I always go back to air, though, like a phoenix. b:pleased

KOS VENOS.

f:cute Hey, if you stopped getting up, it wouldn't be fun anymore.

Aeliah - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Ah ah ah, I didn't say *I* thought Evangile was a drama-maker. I know hardly anything about him (he is a him right?). I'm merely telling you what I've heard from... well... quite a few people. Knowing as little about you as I do, if many people say something about you, it is more likely to be correct than something I would decide in a couple of minutes interaction with you. Prove me wrong if you feel you must, or else if it really isn't important to you, then you can safely ignore what I've said. Your choice.

That aside, don't use a point like that to brush aside my other points, which explain how drama is bad for the longevity of a faction, and that reducing the # of drama-makers correlates with the longevity of a large faction.

Why is Relic automatically at a higher risk than other factions? Loyalty. Relic is a fairly new faction, relatively speaking. A lot of the people who are currently in Relic came, quite recently, from other factions. Lots and lots of other factions.

In comparison, we have guilds like Tempest and Dynasty, which have been around for half a decade. Some of the people, including myself, have been in there for years... and I'm not even close to being one of the oldest Dynasty members. There are people who have been in Dynasty *so* long that their loyalty is without dispute. This creates a solid core for Dynasty as a faction. Some may come, and some may go, but the bulk of those in Dynasty, stay in Dynasty.

Will people be loyal to Relic? Will Relic stick it out for the long run? *MAYBE*. We just don't know yet. Don't mistake a warning for a threat. If Relic leadership is even halfway clever, they realize that for their faction to survive, drama can't be left unchecked. We can all hope that Relic can learn from the mistakes of other factions and find ways to keep their members happy, loyal, and low on drama, similar to Dynasty.

We? Oh yes, we. I'm not looking for Relic's downfall. A stable Relic will make for much more entertaining TWs. Rarely does a server have the privilege of having the two top factions being *so* similar in power. I'm very much looking forward to this season's TW, which is why, again, I hope that you heed my warning, and work to keep Relic a stable faction!

Cheers.

I appreciate that you have good wishes for our longevity but rest assured we have a lot of experience here. Former leaders and officers of past TW and PVE factions who all want to see Relic succeed and are willing to do whatever it takes to ensure that happens. Rest assured that Relic will prove that it's still possible for a fresh new faction to rise through the ranks and endure the test of time.

Aeliah - Dreamweaver wrote: »

This serves well to address another point of mine. A faction's leader may or may not necessarily represent how a faction operates. It all depends on how diligent the leader is on who he/she lets into the faction.

Let me explain.

Some factions, like Dynasty for example, are somewhat selective about who they let into faction. As some have unfortunately experienced, this can mean somewhat lengthy interviews, and gear doesn't guarantee you a spot here. For example, while I certainly don't speak for our officers, I highly doubt Evangile could ever find a home in Dynasty, no matter how good his/her gear is, because he has been implicated in causing a fair bit of drama. Dynasty strives to ensure that, for the most part, our members are fairly representative of what Dynasty stands for, which is to say, 'for the most part' decent people, who don't cause excessive drama, and who aren't, in general, *******s/thieves/etc.

Rose tinted glasses work both ways

Allow me to elaborate. I was actually in Dynasty. You probably never knew this. Over a year and half ago I was looking for an active TW faction on my BM, vV_Numaan_Vv. I contacted an officer of Dyna, I believe it was Marid, who then met me at south arch looked at my gear, asked a few simple questions and I was invited to Dynasty. I dont believe I ever spoke to Wacky (has he always been the leader of Dynasty?) I didn't feel very welcome, and shortly after this became inactive from the game for a while came back and I had been booted from the faction. Things may have changed since then, your recruitment process may have been improved as you state, perhaps there was a lull in TW where you were filling numbers who knows.

Plague has a very active leadership, he leads from the front, is very approachable, is fair and believes in giving people chances. He can step in sort out issues as they arise and boot people if need be. He has alot of experience leading factions and TWs on this server other servers and other MMOs. We have integrated alot of people in that now feel like this is their second home, due to the atmosphere here which is created largely by our leadership and positively reinforced through our members enjoying and propogating that culture. We're lucky that people with awesome gear want to be here although we only ask that they have what it average gear nowadays i.e. full g16 and are willing to help them out as we have done with alot of people that were family or good friends of existing members so people can play the game with their family and friends which we feel is important.

I think one thing that really helps and this may sound sexist but whatever, our leadership isnt just men, we have women in strong key positions, which really help to add a womans touch to it all where people feel mothered and looked after and we have loads of carebearing and all that which is awesome and why so many feel at home here. Haha. I'm gonna get murdered for saying that!

We may be a very new faction in terms of Dynasty, but don't write us off as noobs lol we have a wealth of experience and have seen things done alot of different ways and are choosing to do things our way they way we feel is best for everyone and is fair and fun for all. We're a family first and foremost and an active TW faction that seems to be doing pretty well too.

Relic

Aeliah - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Ah ah ah, I didn't say *I* thought Evangile was a drama-maker. I know hardly anything about him (he is a him right?). I'm merely telling you what I've heard from... well... quite a few people. Knowing as little about you as I do, if many people say something about you, it is more likely to be correct than something I would decide in a couple of minutes interaction with you. Prove me wrong if you feel you must, or else if it really isn't important to you, then you can safely ignore what I've said. Your choice.

That aside, don't use a point like that to brush aside my other points, which explain how drama is bad for the longevity of a faction, and that reducing the # of drama-makers correlates with the longevity of a large faction.

Why is Relic automatically at a higher risk than other factions? Loyalty. Relic is a fairly new faction, relatively speaking. A lot of the people who are currently in Relic came, quite recently, from other factions. Lots and lots of other factions.

In comparison, we have guilds like Tempest and Dynasty, which have been around for half a decade. Some of the people, including myself, have been in there for years... and I'm not even close to being one of the oldest Dynasty members. There are people who have been in Dynasty *so* long that their loyalty is without dispute. This creates a solid core for Dynasty as a faction. Some may come, and some may go, but the bulk of those in Dynasty, stay in Dynasty.

Will people be loyal to Relic? Will Relic stick it out for the long run? *MAYBE*. We just don't know yet. Don't mistake a warning for a threat. If Relic leadership is even halfway clever, they realize that for their faction to survive, drama can't be left unchecked. We can all hope that Relic can learn from the mistakes of other factions and find ways to keep their members happy, loyal, and low on drama, similar to Dynasty.

We? Oh yes, we. I'm not looking for Relic's downfall. A stable Relic will make for much more entertaining TWs. Rarely does a server have the privilege of having the two top factions being *so* similar in power. I'm very much looking forward to this season's TW, which is why, again, I hope that you heed my warning, and work to keep Relic a stable faction!

Cheers.[/QUOTE

From reading this i can't help to think is this what the majority of people be thinking that Relic won't last?.. Cause if that the case the people who thinking that are silently hoping the downfall of the faction.. That like someone smiling up in your face and wishing you the best when deep down they really want you to fall.. Am just trying to figure out why so much thought on will they last an not more thought on Damn they are some fun TWs.. Is this what factions who been around so long be thinking of upcoming factions who tends to match them... If the old faction is rolling the new factions might not hear anything.. but if the faction is standing up to them they start running on about Will that faction last an all this core blah blah blah stuff... help me to understand this please..

In the meantime lets enjoy the Tws while we getting them.. And stop focusing on the negative shyts.

Slewdem - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Aeliah - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Ah ah ah, I didn't say *I* thought Evangile was a drama-maker. I know hardly anything about him (he is a him right?). I'm merely telling you what I've heard from... well... quite a few people. Knowing as little about you as I do, if many people say something about you, it is more likely to be correct than something I would decide in a couple of minutes interaction with you. Prove me wrong if you feel you must, or else if it really isn't important to you, then you can safely ignore what I've said. Your choice.

That aside, don't use a point like that to brush aside my other points, which explain how drama is bad for the longevity of a faction, and that reducing the # of drama-makers correlates with the longevity of a large faction.

Why is Relic automatically at a higher risk than other factions? Loyalty. Relic is a fairly new faction, relatively speaking. A lot of the people who are currently in Relic came, quite recently, from other factions. Lots and lots of other factions.

In comparison, we have guilds like Tempest and Dynasty, which have been around for half a decade. Some of the people, including myself, have been in there for years... and I'm not even close to being one of the oldest Dynasty members. There are people who have been in Dynasty *so* long that their loyalty is without dispute. This creates a solid core for Dynasty as a faction. Some may come, and some may go, but the bulk of those in Dynasty, stay in Dynasty.

Will people be loyal to Relic? Will Relic stick it out for the long run? *MAYBE*. We just don't know yet. Don't mistake a warning for a threat. If Relic leadership is even halfway clever, they realize that for their faction to survive, drama can't be left unchecked. We can all hope that Relic can learn from the mistakes of other factions and find ways to keep their members happy, loyal, and low on drama, similar to Dynasty.

We? Oh yes, we. I'm not looking for Relic's downfall. A stable Relic will make for much more entertaining TWs. Rarely does a server have the privilege of having the two top factions being *so* similar in power. I'm very much looking forward to this season's TW, which is why, again, I hope that you heed my warning, and work to keep Relic a stable faction!

Cheers.[/QUOTE

From reading this i can't help to think is this what the majority of people be thinking that Relic won't last?.. Cause if that the case the people who thinking that are silently hoping the downfall of the faction.. That like someone smiling up in your face and wishing you the best when deep down they really want you to fall.. Am just trying to figure out why so much thought on will they last an not more thought on Damn they are some fun TWs.. Is this what factions who been around so long be thinking of upcoming factions who tends to match them... If the old faction is rolling the new factions might not hear anything.. but if the faction is standing up to them they start running on about Will that faction last an all this core blah blah blah stuff... help me to understand this please..

In the meantime lets enjoy the Tws while we getting them.. And stop focusing on the negative shyts.

Simply because we saw that ... let me think how many times on this server...hmmm a lot lol...and you should know that by now Slew you have been arround for long time same as me.

Aeliha just stating facts that happened in the past. He /me dont know you Eva but what you have been saying that only faction you canged is Vex is lie becouse you swiched 3 factions in very short period of time wich makes people think problem is in you and not in factions. For your drama "tail" no one is to blame but yourselfe being on wc every single min and shering your personal stuff on it (personaly I bl you monts and months agoe when you were started to flert with your current huby. I thought that was something I really couldnt care less and should be adressed in pms), but you say you changed, guess we will see...

Aslo what Aeliah is pointed and with our long past playing this game was proved to be right is that lot of previous factions that has "drama" people inside are doing fine as long as they wining. Once they start to loose tw they fall apart and "cybering" and "vent" stuff are not so fun anymore. Dyna is far from perfect faction, but its closest to compleatly drama free faction as you can be. That is answer also to Nigs question why some people are not in faction anymore even they have most OP gear on server.

Althougth I think some thigs that Relic officers and leader doing are good for faction I see already lot of stuff that are not good and I know already how they will end up because like I sad Im playing this game since very begining. It showed already when your officer post that post on the begining of this thread and I have lot more examples which ofc wont say here.


I personaly dont have any feeling about Relic Im just very competative person against factions that are considering our rivals. Before that was Regen, then Tempest now thats Relic... and tomorrow who knows. Thats the reason I dont care much as long there is faction to fight with and Im sure we will always have one.

Btw Im so lazy to run this post through google check

Slewdem - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Temptatio/V - Dreamweaver wrote: »

All am saying is why putting so much focus on how long the faction will last.. Why not enjoy the Tw while it's here.. i only see blah blah about how long faction will last.. As you said when a faction is winning no complaints but when start losing you start hearing all type of stuff.. i only witness 2 tw so far with relic an dyna an already talks about how long faction will last b:surrender

Stop hoping for the worst an just enjoy it... Another thing I think people who are really competative seems to have a very hard time losing.. I could be wrong

You are not wrong at all I hate to lose:) But that's my drive to get better gear, to play better and fight harder... and at the end it is my reason to play this game after all this years.

Slewdem - Dreamweaver wrote: »

like example my short time i was in regen when i would try to talk to SOME people from tempest an dyna they would just ignore maybe they don't like me for some reason when never spoken to me before i dunno..

No one likes you coz you're OP. Stop kicking our ***'es and we might b:laugh

DarkSkiesx - Dreamweaver wrote: »

No one likes you coz you're OP. Stop kicking our ***'es and we might b:laugh

b:laugh

All of our characters have been deleted.

There will be no more TW's.

b:laughb:laughb:laugh

ppl read all bs azazzin write, that i find amazing!



after years that Dyna won every tw and every season some new faction win to them and they was like b:shocked

''Aeliha just stating facts that happened in the past. He /me dont know you Eva but what you have been saying that only faction you canged is Vex is lie becouse you swiched 3 factions in very short period of time wich makes people think problem is in you and not in factions. For your drama "tail" no one is to blame but yourselfe being on wc every single min and shering your personal stuff on it (personaly I bl you monts and months agoe when you were started to flert with your current huby. I thought that was something I really couldnt care less and should be adressed in pms), but you say you changed, guess we will see...''

Fact is there's more than only me that switched more than 3 factions in a short while, but who are you people to decide to call me a factionhopper without knowing any of the reasons why I left? b:cute I've left most for lack of TW. But ofcourse people would rather complain and talk B/S instead of wanting to know the actual truth. b:chuckle
I never said I only changed factions once, I said there was drama in only one faction; Vex.
I'm not even the one that started to point fingers, but seriously saying I'm to blame for Vex' fall is the biggest bullsht I ever hears nice try though all.
Please tell me more about this personal stuff cause if I really was saying personal stuff on the worldchat then people would know me, yet they don't. b:chuckle
And I don't see any drama or whatsoever, people should look at themselves before looking at others. b:cute I know my flaws but everyone has them, I know I think differently than others at certain moments, that's because of my autism. But I try.
My faction and my friends know me, and love me and that's all I care about. But I guess people need someone to hate, let them hate. I couldn't care less about these lies that have been spread. b:bye
Also Temptation, this isn't a direct attack towards you, this is just generally about all people that think I'm a bad person. ;D

years?????????????? LOL i would say 2013.
damn thinked u are smarter but ...

how many seasons win dyna.then try how many years need to...then u will see why ,,years,,

but i doubt u can understand...go farm and let tw for those that do! PS i strongly think u have 3-4 chars r9r3 allready.

dont bother reply !

I can't get tired of saying Plague is very fond of the kick button. He kicks people every week due to inactivity/drama or whatever. Not long after I joined Relic, I saw him kick someone right after TW because the person was spawn killing and they wouldn't obey the command of not spawn killing. I've seen him kicking people after starting drama in faction chat too. And yes HE HAS denied people with awesome gear due to their "high profile". I can't say he's perfect since no one is, but I can assure he tries HIS BEST to do what's best for Relic. I won't tell you further than that but, his best quality is that one cannot foresee his next moves because he is a flexible, creative and adaptive person. I've seen all that he has done to be involved with faction and solve any issues or drama, so I'm very sure he is not one that will allow drama in and take over the place. I can't say much about the rest of the officers since I haven't talked with each of them enough to know them but I believe they are trying as much.

You guys aren't the only ones that have been playing this for 5+ years, we have a large amount of people that come from different factions/servers with loads of experience from everywhere, and I believe that is a plus for us, because we are able to improvise and adapt much better than others, hence why Relic has grown so fast in a short amount of time.

As for the rumors about Eva, which everyone has heard of, it is totally immature to judge someone based on rumors, you only get to know someone and the right to say something about that person when you get to know them. Apart from the day when she carried flag in NW towards the opposite way and held it there just because she wanted and ended up making us lose the battle b:shocked (for which I hate youuuu forever Eva lol), every time I encountered her and had a chat, she didn't seem to be what she seems based on wc stuff. And in Relic, she has been a a good and fun player to be around.