Dynasty afraid of Relic?

Eruvanda - Dreamweaver

Lol you seem to not understand what I was talking about. You may like someone without getting to know them. And then when you get to know them, they might be that awesome person you thought they were, or they might be totally opposite. I wasn't talking about "pre-liking" (or pre-hating) someone and being called shallow for that (I never mentioned that word or anything like o.O), but judging someone and blaming them for an entire faction's falling apart, is what I call immature, specially if you were not inside the faction and you don't know the person at all. And I wasn't talking about you, but Aeliah. Dark is awesome btw

CreamDrinker - Dreamweaver

Temptatio/V - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I m 100% sure you not bad person, since i dont think that anyone is bad person. And reason people judging you while not knowing you coming from the fact you are constantly on wc sharing your opinions, so like it or not that has consequences.
I know you are smarter then people give you credit for but again cant blame them for judging you from what they see on wc. But if you say you dont care Im ok with it to.
DW is like small village, everyone knows each other and news spreads fast. People talk and dont be fulled thinking that some of those stuff not coming from your friends to (people here even lies to their friends what gender they are:)), so even if you think people dont know stuff they sometimes actually do.

Well enough of that. Watch Slew for me in there and find him good sugar-mama:)

I don't see how you can logically argue that it's ok to judge someone based on rumors and what factions they've been in or even for stating opinions in WC. Perhaps it's because your not the person being crapped on and thus reveals a lack of empathy on your part. No one person is superior to another. You think it's disgusting that Eva WC's alot? Well propagating the spreading of rumors or even believing such rumors is equally as bad if not worse. I'm not saying I blame you for believing such rumors since I actually have a basic understanding of sociology and how our brain reacts to social pressures. But I'm asking people to open their minds and accept that maybe things haven't happened the way they've been told and their perception of the DreamWeaver drama may be false and based on lies, or maybe not even based on lies but based on a half truth where the propagator of the event does not contain the knowledge necessary to tell the full story.

I guess what baffles me is how quickly so many people are to judge and disbelieve one person but they don't hold others to the same standards. And all I see is people telling Evangile she's not necessarily but probably wrong and your evidence for that is that she WC's and multiple people have gossiped about her. Her use of telecoustics is a question of personality not a question of morality and judging someone based on their personality (which they can't help) is what I have a problem with. If you have personal experience with Evangile then that's a different story but from the looks of it nobody here really does she's just your damn pinata and that is just shameful.

Peace b:bye

Dragslave - Dreamweaver

Is fun how this post keep going... so ill just say a bit of what i think...

Relic is a nice faction, is a shame how last season they kept getting ganked, thats not cool, i personally didnt like it, cause i think that may ruin the fun for the defenders, and attackers as well. I never even knew why the hate against Relic really, and i guess hate cause strategically there wasnt a purpose in ganking Relic i guess.

I know some people in Relic, but most of them are still new there, so i dont think that proves the "personallity" of the faction. I barely know Plague or any of the officers so i cant speak good or bad about them.

Idk why so many people care about Dynasty so much. If we are that noob and even though faction exists maintaining regular members adn TWs since forever, we keep getting targeted as a tiny faction, but i guess is because we are more low profile type so some people take that as superiority complex.

As Aeliah pointed, we have a "distinctive" way to pick new members, is not perfect, but it works, the atmosphere of the faction is calm and mature, (even though half the members are psychos and faction chat might make people want to go blind b:laugh) some people take that as a "boring" faction i guess, cause they want trolls talking about stupid stuff all day long. Which is fine if they like that.

For the people who live in the past, Cala/Regen is not longer anymore, so move on already!!! And my personal experience was this: once after an officer tried to recruit me for months i applied, and i never heard an answer till 1 month after when i got a mail saying that they didnt need wizards. like 18months later i found out from ex-officers that the reason i got rejected it was because some officers prefered a lesser geared psychic, but because he might cash in future and outgear me that i dont cash. So that doesnt sound so nice faction to me, it sounds like: if u are OP come, if not go away.

Reason i joined Dynasty in the 1st place was: i like the anti-heroes, i joined Dynasty when they were losing TW every week, but kept going at it, and being pretty much the only faction that still attacked as well. I learned pretty much all i know from all the awesome people there, (not wacky hes a noob) and i enjoyed every TW i have been on (well maybe some 3 hours TW are boring, others not so much) and yes, i like to win, but idc about losing... i never forget the number 1 rule: IS A GAME!!!!

I wont talk much about other faction cause i either never been there, or dont care about them really, i'll just say that Tempest was really friendly and respectfull except for some encounters (from both sides) that always happen in the heat of TW. Im really hoping it will be the same with Relic, even though this post was a bad start people apologized which is good. And the reason why this post was going on, was more from people ouside of both factions that have old grudges and dont want to face the fact that others can be good, and even better than them.

I will defend Aeliah on one point, he's just expressing his mind, not hating on people or making accusations, he wouldnt have an issue into clarifying that either here on text with big walls of text, or in vent with endless, but interesting talks.

I dont "hate" factions, never did and never will, come on!!! i have a life and people to hate for real lol. But a bit of trashtalk is nice, but 1 vs 1 not faction vs faction. Im really hoping we can keep having fun and respectfull TWs, because i've been having fun on the last two.

Wow sorry for the wall of text and the typos, english is not my first languagge as u can notice...

CreamDrinker - Dreamweaver

Eruvanda - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Lol you seem to not understand what I was talking about. You may like someone without getting to know them. And then when you get to know them, they might be that awesome person you thought they were, or they might be totally opposite. I wasn't talking about "pre-liking" (or pre-hating) someone and being called shallow for that (I never mentioned that word or anything like o.O), but judging someone and blaming them for an entire faction's falling apart, is what I call immature, specially if you were not inside the faction and you don't know the person at all. And I wasn't talking about you, but Aeliah. Dark is awesome btw

However in this case DarkSkies is that awesome of a person xD

Aeliah - Dreamweaver

Again, I'm not 'hating' anybody or 'hoping' for anybody's downfall. It's a waste of energy honestly to be a hateful person, besides being unfun (which is a totally awesome notword).

Relic has many players old and new, just like Dynasty. However, the difference is that, relatively speaking, Relic is a new faction. Now understand from Dynasty's perspective, that we have seen many factions rise and fall in power. Some of the factions that have risen up even become more powerful than Dynasty for a time... but inevitably, for whatever reason, they've all fallen from their pedestals. That isn't to say that they've been disbanded or anything, but they are no longer 'top-dog' TW factions.

So is it really so odd that many in Dynasty look at Relic and wonder if it will last? Wondering is not the same as hoping. Again, it would be nice to have a stable Relic to TW against. However, you can't deny that if history is any indicator of the future, then Relic will have to work hard to avoid the fate of its predecessors.

PS, my TW video is finally live. Go ahead and enjoy all 1 hour of it, if you so wish

Nov 30, 2013 TW, Dynasty vs. Relic

FistToDeath - Dreamweaver

We're so afraid of Relic we actually broke everyone's character's list to avoid TWing next weekend. b:shocked b:angry b:cry

On this whole "will Relic last? Will Relic fall?" discussion, the only thing I have to say is "que sera, sera" which translates to, as any of you Doris Day fans should know, to "whatever will be, will be", since the future's not ours to see.

Let's wait and hope everyone can have the most fun we can from PWI and TWs.

Dragslave - Dreamweaver

FistToDeath - Dreamweaver wrote: »

We're so afraid of Relic we actually broke everyone's character's list to avoid TWing next weekend. b:shocked b:angry b:cry

b:chuckleb:chuckleb

Evangile - Dreamweaver

FistToDeath - Dreamweaver wrote: »

We're so afraid of Relic we actually broke everyone's character's list to avoid TWing next weekend. b:shocked b:angry b:cry

Lol xD
Best post of the entire topic b:victory

NigeIus - Dreamweaver

FistToDeath - Dreamweaver wrote: »

We're so afraid of Relic we actually broke everyone's character's list to avoid TWing next weekend. b:shocked b:angry b:cry

wait wait wait..rexnero joined dynasty? :P

CreamDrinker - Dreamweaver

Dragslave - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Is fun how this post keep going... so ill just say a bit of what i think...

Relic is a nice faction, is a shame how last season they kept getting ganked, thats not cool, i personally didnt like it, cause i think that may ruin the fun for the defenders, and attackers as well. I never even knew why the hate against Relic really, and i guess hate cause strategically there wasnt a purpose in ganking Relic i guess.

I know some people in Relic, but most of them are still new there, so i dont think that proves the "personallity" of the faction. I barely know Plague or any of the officers so i cant speak good or bad about them.

Idk why so many people care about Dynasty so much. If we are that noob and even though faction exists maintaining regular members adn TWs since forever, we keep getting targeted as a tiny faction, but i guess is because we are more low profile type so some people take that as superiority complex.

As Aeliah pointed, we have a "distinctive" way to pick new members, is not perfect, but it works, the atmosphere of the faction is calm and mature, (even though half the members are psychos and faction chat might make people want to go blind b:laugh) some people take that as a "boring" faction i guess, cause they want trolls talking about stupid stuff all day long. Which is fine if they like that.

For the people who live in the past, Cala/Regen is not longer anymore, so move on already!!! And my personal experience was this: once after an officer tried to recruit me for months i applied, and i never heard an answer till 1 month after when i got a mail saying that they didnt need wizards. like 18months later i found out from ex-officers that the reason i got rejected it was because some officers prefered a lesser geared psychic, but because he might cash in future and outgear me that i dont cash. So that doesnt sound so nice faction to me, it sounds like: if u are OP come, if not go away.

Reason i joined Dynasty in the 1st place was: i like the anti-heroes, i joined Dynasty when they were losing TW every week, but kept going at it, and being pretty much the only faction that still attacked as well. I learned pretty much all i know from all the awesome people there, (not wacky hes a noob) and i enjoyed every TW i have been on (well maybe some 3 hours TW are boring, others not so much) and yes, i like to win, but idc about losing... i never forget the number 1 rule: IS A GAME!!!!

I wont talk much about other faction cause i either never been there, or dont care about them really, i'll just say that Tempest was really friendly and respectfull except for some encounters (from both sides) that always happen in the heat of TW. Im really hoping it will be the same with Relic, even though this post was a bad start people apologized which is good. And the reason why this post was going on, was more from people ouside of both factions that have old grudges and dont want to face the fact that others can be good, and even better than them.

I will defend Aeliah on one point, he's just expressing his mind, not hating on people or making accusations, he wouldnt have an issue into clarifying that either here on text with big walls of text, or in vent with endless, but interesting talks.

I dont "hate" factions, never did and never will, come on!!! i have a life and people to hate for real lol. But a bit of trashtalk is nice, but 1 vs 1 not faction vs faction. Im really hoping we can keep having fun and respectfull TWs, because i've been having fun on the last two.

Wow sorry for the wall of text and the typos, english is not my first languagge as u can notice...

Ty Dragslave well said I only feel like people are picking on Eva unfairly and unfairly singling out Relic for w/e reason who knows at this point. And yes we did get ganked a lot last season but that blind hatred only made us stronger as a faction and helped to propel us to where we are now.


As far as Aeliah goes I find his J.R. Tolkien length responses amusing. Nothing against him personally but it does make him fun to pick on. I do often wonder if he has all his posts copy written, published, edited, and turned into hard copy before putting them on the forums. b:laugh

Eruvanda - Dreamweaver

Aeliah - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Again, I'm not 'hating' anybody or 'hoping' for anybody's downfall. It's a waste of energy honestly to be a hateful person, besides being unfun (which is a totally awesome notword).

Relic has many players old and new, just like Dynasty. However, the difference is that, relatively speaking, Relic is a new faction. Now understand from Dynasty's perspective, that we have seen many factions rise and fall in power. Some of the factions that have risen up even become more powerful than Dynasty for a time... but inevitably, for whatever reason, they've all fallen from their pedestals. That isn't to say that they've been disbanded or anything, but they are no longer 'top-dog' TW factions.

So is it really so odd that many in Dynasty look at Relic and wonder if it will last? Wondering is not the same as hoping. Again, it would be nice to have a stable Relic to TW against. However, you can't deny that if history is any indicator of the future, then Relic will have to work hard to avoid the fate of its predecessors.

PS, my TW video is finally live. Go ahead and enjoy all 1 hour of it, if you so wish

Nov 30, 2013 TW, Dynasty vs. Relic

It's not odd at all, it is completely understandable. I can't speak for others, but I at least came here to give you some clarifying (to the extent of my knowledge) and tell you that you can hope for the best b:victory that's all.



"number 1 rule: IS A GAME!!!!"

+1 to that!

Aeliah - Dreamweaver

Btw guys server is back up.

FistToDeath - Dreamweaver

CreamDrinker - Dreamweaver wrote: »

As far as Aeliah goes I find his J.R. Tolkien length responses amusing. Nothing against him personally but it does make him fun to pick on. I do often wonder if he has all his posts copy written, published, edited, and turned into hard copy before putting them on the forums. b:laugh

b:chuckle
Poor Azz, concision is not his forte.

Aeliah - Dreamweaver

FistToDeath - Dreamweaver wrote: »

b:chuckle
Poor Azz, concision is not his forte.

Unfortunately, many people do not appreciate details. This is their loss, though, since my ability to appreciate details is what makes me such a good player.

Dragslave - Dreamweaver

Aeliah - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Unfortunately, many people do not appreciate details. This is their loss, though, since my ability to appreciate details is what makes me such a good player.

You are the most perfectionist person i have seen in game, and yes thats exactly whats makes you such an excellent player Azz, i hope i could be a bit more like you tbh

FistToDeath - Dreamweaver

That's not it. Look.

This:

"Again, I'm not 'hating' anybody or 'hoping' for anybody's downfall. It's a waste of energy honestly to be a hateful person, besides being unfun (which is a totally awesome notword).

Relic has many players old and new, just like Dynasty. However, the difference is that, relatively speaking, Relic is a new faction. Now understand from Dynasty's perspective, that we have seen many factions rise and fall in power. Some of the factions that have risen up even become more powerful than Dynasty for a time... but inevitably, for whatever reason, they've all fallen from their pedestals. That isn't to say that they've been disbanded or anything, but they are no longer 'top-dog' TW factions.

So is it really so odd that many in Dynasty look at Relic and wonder if it will last? Wondering is not the same as hoping. Again, it would be nice to have a stable Relic to TW against. However, you can't deny that if history is any indicator of the future, then Relic will have to work hard to avoid the fate of its predecessors.

PS, my TW video is finally live. Go ahead and enjoy all 1 hour of it, if you so wish "

Can be shrunk into this:

"I'm not hating anybody nor hating for anybody's downfall, that's a waste of energy (it's not fun either).

I know Relic has many players, old and new. As a faction, however, they're new. We from Dyna have seen many factions rise and even get stronger than us, but eventually they all fell. That's why so many of us wonder if Relic will last. I hope so.

PS: my TW video is up. "

So you can see it's not about the details, it's about an excess of words. You wouldn't lose any important detail in that shrunk version. And you'd sound nicer, cause you'd also sound less pompous.

I understand it's your style, sure, but Cream's post was funny as hell.

Temptatio/V - Dreamweaver

CreamDrinker - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I don't see how you can logically argue that it's ok to judge someone based on rumors and what factions they've been in or even for stating opinions in WC. Perhaps it's because your not the person being crapped on and thus reveals a lack of empathy on your part. No one person is superior to another. You think it's disgusting that Eva WC's alot? Well propagating the spreading of rumors or even believing such rumors is equally as bad if not worse. I'm not saying I blame you for believing such rumors since I actually have a basic understanding of sociology and how our brain reacts to social pressures. But I'm asking people to open their minds and accept that maybe things haven't happened the way they've been told and their perception of the DreamWeaver drama may be false and based on lies, or maybe not even based on lies but based on a half truth where the propagator of the event does not contain the knowledge necessary to tell the full story.

I guess what baffles me is how quickly so many people are to judge and disbelieve one person but they don't hold others to the same standards. And all I see is people telling Evangile she's not necessarily but probably wrong and your evidence for that is that she WC's and multiple people have gossiped about her. Her use of telecoustics is a question of personality not a question of morality and judging someone based on their personality (which they can't help) is what I have a problem with. If you have personal experience with Evangile then that's a different story but from the looks of it nobody here really does she's just your damn pinata and that is just shameful.

Peace b:bye

Tbh I dont have clue wtf you talking about and I red it several times. Are you trying to tell me Eva is nice? If thats the case I dont need your insurance because I duno you either so why would I believe you anything you saying or ask for your opinion. Or you maybe trying to explain to me from your "pro" sociology point of view how my brain works lol?
If you bother to read what I posted you will might noticed I was just saying why people think what they think and giving the circumstances I can understand that. So why then you cant?
Personally, like I sad before I dont know her and I dont have slightest idea what she talking about in wc since again like I sad before I bl he long long time ago when she started to wc every min because I bl every person thats doing same thing, same as I cant stand when person talks without stopping, and just keeps going on and on about nonsense. I prefer to keep my wc clean for "important" stuff.

Peace to you and dont get upset to much I didnt attacked Eva same as I dont think she needs you to defend her. We are all grown ups. At least I know Im.

Aeliah - Dreamweaver

FistToDeath - Dreamweaver wrote: »

That's not it. Look.

This:



Can be shrunk into this:



So you can see it's not about the details, it's about an excess of words. You wouldn't lose any important detail in that shrunk version. And you'd sound nicer, cause you'd also sound less pompous.

I understand it's your style, sure, but Cream's post was funny as hell.

Sure I can trim excess words, but you did more than that in your example. You trimmed a lot of ideas too. For example, in paragraph 2, you remove my comparison of Relic to Dynasty, my reference to the non 'top-dog' status of the factions that fell in power, and how I said 'wondering isn't the same as hoping'. In paragraph 3, you remove 'go ahead and enjoy all 1 hour of it' which gives the reader a nicety and the video's length.

If I spent more time on these posts, I could trim down the word count. I'm aware that I tend to use more words than necessary to describe an idea. I'm aware that it is easier to digest short sentences/ideas than long ones.

However, this isn't a class assignment of mine. There are no limits on word count or sentence length. I would rather use more words than necessary and have my ideas be fully understood, than to skimp on words and have them not understood. In particular, when some readers are quick to nitpick, I like to add detail, to ensure that there is no way for the reader to misconstrue what I am saying. This is also why I tend to qualify most of my statements, like saying 'for whatever reason' when referring to the downfall of other factions (without a statement like that, some readers would quickly say 'well my faction didn't fall because of drama).

The style of writing you are used to is probably office/report writing. Office writing doesn't allow for any excess words or unnecessary transition phrases. It features many short sentences and simple words, and lacks in flavor. Office writing is very boring. Lol.

TL;DR: I know how to shorten sentences/ideas. I use more words/sentences to ensure that my ideas are fully understood.

opkossy

Aeliah - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I use more words/sentences to ensure that my ideas are fully understood.

... And then it still doesn't happen because (most average) people look at it and say TL;DR. b:chuckle

FistToDeath - Dreamweaver

The styles I'm used to are mostly literary, at home, and journalistic, at work. I hate office writing as much as everyone.

Good literature also doesn't allow for an excess of words, nor does good journalism. And really, "excess" is, in itself, a negative word.

Of course some ideas were trimmed in my example. The comparison between Relic and Dyna was unecessary, for instance. Those were unimportant ideas that can be seen by anyone with half a brain without them being explicit or by anyone interested in this thread. Maybe you just underestimate your readers' reading abilities (and you might have some good reason for doing so).

Again, it's your style, and as so it's none of my business.

Aeliah - Dreamweaver

OPKossy wrote: »

... And then it still doesn't happen because (most average) people look at it and say TL;DR. b:chuckle

This is baffling. The 'average' person is willing to read through countless pages of 1-paragraph responses, and yet instantly shies away from a post which has more than 3 paragraphs. Why is this? Has modern society degraded to the point where the average person can no longer understand an argument that takes more than a few lines to express?

Readers who ignore every long post they come across will likely miss the most interesting parts of a thread. Does it never occur to these readers that people who write more have more that is worth writing about? In other words, if you really care about the topic being discussed, the long posts should be the most important ones to read, not the least! And yet, apparently, the average reader is too intimidated by a long post to even attempt to read it, regardless of how concise the sentences are, or how well formatted the post is.

I feel sad for society...

NigeIus - Dreamweaver

Aeliah - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I feel sad for society...

b:pleasedb:pleased not the right place to feel sad for society mr.philosopher. So couse ppl dont like reading what u write it means the society is wrong? LOL dude as i told u many times, u and ur ego cant fill the same room. even if u are joking (thing i doubt couse this isnt the first time u write like this) this is what i call being narcissist. b:bye

Slivaf - Dreamweaver

Aeliah - Dreamweaver wrote: »

This is baffling. The 'average' person is willing to read through countless pages of 1-paragraph responses, and yet instantly shies away from a post which has more than 3 paragraphs. Why is this? Has modern society degraded to the point where the average person can no longer understand an argument that takes more than a few lines to express?

Readers who ignore every long post they come across will likely miss the most interesting parts of a thread. Does it never occur to these readers that people who write more have more that is worth writing about? In other words, if you really care about the topic being discussed, the long posts should be the most important ones to read, not the least! And yet, apparently, the average reader is too intimidated by a long post to even attempt to read it, regardless of how concise the sentences are, or how well formatted the post is.

I feel sad for society...

I for one will read long posts in their entirety if I am interested in it enough... its just like that old saying 'beauty in the eye of the beholder' some will find beauty in the long winded posts, some will not, it just depends on who is reading it. Sad I know but I tend to shy away from reading every single post that is lengthy, but yea... if I am interested in it enough I will read it... just depends on the subject of discussion/how well I am 'invested' in it.

EDIT: I for one have the belief that not all posters are capable of shrotening their posts, and still get their point across correctly... some have that gift, others do not. Sadly this leads to impatience, and people just seeing 'bms are weak' and ignoring anything after it. (IT IS JUST AN EXAMPLE. xD) Then they make a reply as if that was all that was said, even if I add in that they're only weak in mass pvp/while in crappish gear. *Hides* (edit) People get lazy and they focus on one single point, and end up jumping to the most asinine assumption... yes its sad but people are indeed lazy, its almost human nature to not read every single 'wall of text' that is posted.

^ please lets not start a disccussion about that here xD I'd prefer not to get into it atm... it was after all just an example. :X

opkossy

Slivaf - Dreamweaver wrote: »

bms are weak

wtf r u tlkn bout noob bms rnt week!1!11!

srsly go lrn2ply ur clss rite or uninstall plz b:angryb:shockedb:angry




Typing that hurt me physically. YOU SEE THE THINGS I GO THROUGH FOR YOU PEOPLE?!

So um... what was this thread about again? Something about a long-lived empire type thing being afraid of an antique for some reason or another? Eh... I dunno. b:question

Aeliah - Dreamweaver

NigeIus - Dreamweaver wrote: »

b:pleasedb:pleased not the right place to feel sad for society mr.philosopher. So couse ppl dont like reading what u write it means the society is wrong? LOL dude as i told u many times, u and ur ego cant fill the same room. even if u are joking (thing i doubt couse this isnt the first time u write like this) this is what i call being narcissist. b:bye

Did I say I was talking about *my* posts? Nope. Nowhere did I say that. I said *long* posts. Many of my posts aren't long. In fact, the post you quoted isn't long---by the standards of this thread, its quite short. I know English isn't your first language, but stop hiding behind that fact to excuse your lack of reading comprehension.

Avoiding a long, poorly written post? Understandable.
Avoiding a long post because you are short on time? Also understandable.
Avoiding a long post simply because it is long (ie, you don't even read enough to see if it is well-written or not), but reading every single short post in the whole thread? Absurd!

If you read every other post, you clearly (a) care about the topic, and (b) have time to spare. I've already indicated that the long posts often have the most interesting content. Therefore, why are so many people *afraid* of a long post?

If many people are inexplicably afraid of a long post, its reasonable to predict something about our society is causing this.

Regarding original topic of this thread. Dynasty is not afraid of Relic. End of discussion? Lol.

CreamDrinker - Dreamweaver

Temptatio/V - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Tbh I dont have clue wtf you talking about and I red it several times. Are you trying to tell me Eva is nice? If thats the case I dont need your insurance because I duno you either so why would I believe you anything you saying or ask for your opinion. Or you maybe trying to explain to me from your "pro" sociology point of view how my brain works lol?
If you bother to read what I posted you will might noticed I was just saying why people think what they think and giving the circumstances I can understand that. So why then you cant?
Personally, like I sad before I dont know her and I dont have slightest idea what she talking about in wc since again like I sad before I bl he long long time ago when she started to wc every min because I bl every person thats doing same thing, same as I cant stand when person talks without stopping, and just keeps going on and on about nonsense. I prefer to keep my wc clean for "important" stuff.

Peace to you and dont get upset to much I didnt attacked Eva same as I dont think she needs you to defend her. We are all grown ups. At least I know Im.

Here's more to the point it's wrong to develop preconceived notions about people before you meet them yourself not sure how you lost that in translation but w/e. I reread my post to see if anything I said was confusing and I fully understood the message. Also I answered your statement "that you can understand why people think the things they do about Evangile". And that is the point I argued so yes I did read your post, maybe it's just because I have a soft spot for people being picked on but I don't understand how you can logically argue that it's ok for people to say what they do about her. Unless they have had personal experience their claims amount to nothing more than hate mongering.

Eruvanda - Dreamweaver

I am starting to like Aeliah b:chuckle I do love details and reading books b:laugh I am also someone that loves writing walls of text lol for the same reason that I want to convey my thoughts the best possible way.

At least in my country (Brazil), they do encourage us to summarize our ideas and remove excess or words by training us to write essays with less than 30 lines for university entrance tests, which means in school we never are allowed to write texts longer than that. I can only recall one time at 7th grade when we were asked to write a horror story with no line limit and, while everyone wrote 5 to 30 lines of story, I wrote about 3 pages *giggles* and I got a 9,9 out of 10 just because my story was too long <____> Anyways, I don't really think they want to stimulate thinking, then we have a huge population of dumb people that will never question anything around them so that rulers can rule the way they want (conspiracy thoughts omg)

I find this topic way more interesting than Dyna x Relic who's-better/who's-gonna-fall bullshyt talk b:chuckle we could spend hours on it, I wouldn't mind :O

PS: I apologize if I don't convey my thoughts in the best possible way cuz, like I said, English is not my native language, I don't know all words ;_;

Slivaf - Dreamweaver

OPKossy wrote: »

wtf r u tlkn bout noob bms rnt week!1!11!

srsly go lrn2ply ur clss rite or uninstall plz b:angryb:shockedb:angry




Typing that hurt me physically. YOU SEE THE THINGS I GO THROUGH FOR YOU PEOPLE?!

So um... what was this thread about again? Something about a long-lived empire type thing being afraid of an antique for some reason or another? Eh... I dunno. b:question

Oi please don't punish me. *hides from whip*

*runs in circles can't catch me!*

oh snap wait nvm magic doesnt miss after its casted. NVM QQ *waves white flag*

DionDagger - Dreamweaver

Eruvanda - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I can't get tired of saying Plague is very fond of the kick button. He kicks people every week due to inactivity/drama or whatever. Not long after I joined Relic, I saw him kick someone right after TW because the person was spawn killing and they wouldn't obey the command of not spawn killing. I've seen him kicking people after starting drama in faction chat too. And yes HE HAS denied people with awesome gear due to their "high profile". I can't say he's perfect since no one is, but I can assure he tries HIS BEST to do what's best for Relic. I won't tell you further than that but, his best quality is that one cannot foresee his next moves because he is a flexible, creative and adaptive person. I've seen all that he has done to be involved with faction and solve any issues or drama, so I'm very sure he is not one that will allow drama in and take over the place. I can't say much about the rest of the officers since I haven't talked with each of them enough to know them but I believe they are trying as much.

You guys aren't the only ones that have been playing this for 5+ years, we have a large amount of people that come from different factions/servers with loads of experience from everywhere, and I believe that is a plus for us, because we are able to improvise and adapt much better than others, hence why Relic has grown so fast in a short amount of time.

As for the rumors about Eva, which everyone has heard of, it is totally immature to judge someone based on rumors, you only get to know someone and the right to say something about that person when you get to know them. Apart from the day when she carried flag in NW towards the opposite way and held it there just because she wanted and ended up making us lose the battle b:shocked (for which I hate youuuu forever Eva lol), every time I encountered her and had a chat, she didn't seem to be what she seems based on wc stuff. And in Relic, she has been a a good and fun player to be around.

Erm no. I've had dealing with relic longer then any 'Relic member' that has commented on this thread. The reason Relic has grown is because when members leave faction where else should they go? Take for instance the 40 or so people that first left Vex. People don't like Dyna because of supposed cashers, Tempest isnt exactly the most well known outside of Tempest and they havent been winning TW's as often, there's bad blood with Regen and Booty. What other well know factions are there left that can have decent TW's?

And obviously you don't know about the **** we had to put up with Relic members killing people doing base quest, until they were KoS. And Plague did nothing to stop it. God i hate when people talk like rumors just exist to exist. I was in a faction with Eva for a pretty long time, so I'm sure my opinion of her would be more accurate than yours, but no comment on that.

Point is, we see bad things already, it's not wrong for someone to question Relic's longevity. I'm sure you would do the same to another faction.

Slivaf - Dreamweaver

Slivaf - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Oi please don't punish me. *hides from whip*

*runs in circles can't catch me!*

oh snap wait nvm magic doesnt miss after its casted. NVM QQ *waves white flag*

Is this the Droid you were looking for? *hides*