Dynasty afraid of Relic?

DeathProof - Dreamweaver wrote: »

To me it seems Wacky is doing his usual srategy and going for the factions main city and surround it, in this case, Tellus. This thread s stupid though and sounds just like InTandem to me

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today in TW >_<

NigeIus - Dreamweaver wrote: »

LOL, couse many old players started to quit, and the oldest members were lazy, once u win everything u get lazy and we started to let ppl that didnt know how to manage some stuffs, do it. and slowly everything was unstoppable, one thing bring to another and poof...it was foult of the oldest calamity members that didnt teach others and those who were joining regenesis brought their thoughs and no1 tried to change how they were seeing the game. it was for example heartz foult couse he was talking to new players in a bad way, instead of explain them what he was trying to say. it was for example, Throck foult that instead of talking wiht people what he wanted to do/say he just raged. It was for people like Andres that instead of showing he was trying to teach everybody as if they were noobs, it was for people like sukama, that was active officer even she wasnt even loging for tw. it was for people like me that instead of trying to talk wiht new guys were allowing things till i exploded. was many many reasons. and IT WAS THE OLDEST CALAMITY members that allowed all that happened without doing anything and once we reacted it was too late. It was BB foult for being the glue for the faction and no1 else to help him. idk man it is long, it is hard and this isnt the place to discuss about, since it is the past.

and for aeliah...there are some stuffs u wont understand. and are linked to me as a human being and thats how i am. i told u many times why i didnt got to dyna, and it is not just for one person. and perhaps i am more confy just watching everything from outside :P b:laugh

and in another note, we are not racist wiht apoo, we love him XD

My memories with Calamity wasn't shiny as yours Nig. I was BM that was looking up to Cala members and wanted to join that faction so much that I was pm your leader every single day. When I finally joined Cala was so happy and omg was so stupid and naive:) Not sure who were the people you helped gear up but certainly wasn't me. Every attempt to join any tt or even bh squad was impossible. Cala was totaly clique faction and if you didn't belong to some elite friends group, all you could do was wc for help. Was miserable there. Then I had "luck" to join full delta with Andres. Ofc I told them that was my first one but wasn't matter, he chosed to be mean, to insult and bother me all 4 hours (back then delta was hard and long). Finally I got sick to be treated as idiot and left, joined EQ and omg finally got friendly people around me and felt like home. So sorry if I dont think Cala was so glorious like you remember. Think its time for you to step up and try to see how other factions functioning and you might be really surprised. I always respected you and I really wish to see you again in real tw because you were/are really good at that and I know how much you enjoying it.

Full respect to you Nig:)
Specially cause you are old school farmer like myselfeb:victory
Viollett

WHY CAN'T WE JUST ALL GET ALONG b:cryb:cryb:cryb:cryb:cryb

Heartz - Dreamweaver wrote: »

because that would be boring? lol
sometimes i reply harsh or be annoying to ppl, simply to make hate.. not necessarily because i hate the ppl.. but because if we all get a long the competetive part kinda goes away.. friendly battles just aint as fun as /omg WAR kill those ****** xD...well atleast not in my opinion.

absolutly!!!!!!!! but i doubt dyna enjoy that. the only bad thing ur faction is doing is set all this as equinox/intampons did, but oo well at least u guys are doing something :P

I wonder when are we gonna start seeing pk wars in west? relic vs dyna?

Heartz - Dreamweaver wrote: »

doing somethign nah. Isn't more than a few words from individuals, it's not like it's the general opinion. compare it to EQ, possibility.. idk, but IT no.

yeah ofc till we dont see cube wars, pk wars, and such u guys are way behind from Intampons.

NigeIus - Dreamweaver wrote: »

absolutly!!!!!!!! but i doubt dyna enjoy that. the only bad thing ur faction is doing is set all this as equinox/intampons did, but oo well at least u guys are doing something :P

I wonder when are we gonna start seeing pk wars in west? relic vs dyna?

Let me set the record straight Relic is nothing like EQ or IT it's like Relic, we mirror no other factions of the past and making those comparisons do nothing to prove your point. The only faction that was like IT was IT the only faction that was like EQ was EQ and so on and so forth. Even if certain factions have some of the same people as former factions they don't have all of the same people as well as having completely different people therefore you can't legitimately say that we are like any other faction besides Relic. b:pleased

CreamDrinker - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Let me set the record straight Relic is nothing like EQ or IT it's like Relic, we mirror no other factions of the past and making those comparisons do nothing to prove your point. The only faction that was like IT was IT the only faction that was like EQ was EQ and so on and so forth. Even if certain factions have some of the same people as former factions they don't have all of the same people as well as having completely different people therefore you can't legitimately say that we are like any other faction besides Relic. b:pleased

Unfortunately whether we like to admit it or not, EVERY faction has a part of them that is "LIKE" equinox or even intandem. (EVERY faction deals with members that the rest of the server/player base despises, and if its a common feeling among the server/people only see the bad players from a faction they will begin to have the belief that EVERYONE from said faction is like that. (I am not saying that is ok, but people DO do it.) However it is very true that every faction also has members that are respectful, and ppl actually enjoy being around. NO faction is immune to that fact... even small factions are capable of having this come up from time to time, even a faction of one person can lead other people to believe something about a faction.) There is a reason why people compared Equinox, and Intandem, aside from the fact that a lot of their members were the same more or less, but a lot of their "attitudes"/personalities/unlikeableness carried over into Intandem with them.

Like is defined as something that has "SIMILAR Qualities" every faction is similar in that fact that each has members that a majority of the public tends to try and avoid due to their ridiculously poor attitude.

As that old saying goes you can NOT be liked by everyone. I am not trying to say you shouldn't care/try... in fact I think its admirable when a faction wants to defend their 'name', or actually cares how they are perceived. Letting members go free so to speak and reeking havoc (regardless of how 'harmless' it seems) on the public is so a double edged sword, some people really dig that kind of thing, but it obviously isn't for everyone. I made a mistake while in eq, I seen something I didn't like and... like a fool I made a big fuss about it, and sadly from what I heard it hurt eq a little bit. (I am not saying it was shook to it's core so to speak, but it did shake things up a bit ;/... sorry again if you were apart of that eq I mentioned. It was never my intention to make things... difficult.)

This is NOT meant to bash/knock down relic, personally I haven't had any problems with ANY members there, although I do suspect a few people there... do not really care for me... which is fine, for some the feeling may very well be mutual. :$

Yay for a "wall" of text WITH spaces. xD

EDIT: As for the original topic/post... I have no freaking clue, and honestly neither do anyone else, hell I am sure even a few among those factions isn't quite sure what the plans were... and really even IF that was the case and they are afraid of them... so what? Plenty of people were afraid of cala, and yet they still felt they were the best faction/the ones to 'beat', and no one really called them out for it, except a select few ppl on the server/those who were in EQ at the time TRYING with little to no avail to 'rally' the server to stop Calamity from taking over.

As for why that failed? Who knows... maybe many people were actually hoping cala would win out, as many people found cala to be quite respectful/peaceful to be around. Maybe it was more that people felt helpless to try and stop cala, because of overwhelming odds, and not just a difference in gears, but more strategy/being able to field a full 80/120 ish people each fight. No one knows for sure... people can guess all day long, and still be no closer to figuring out the 'shared feeling' of why people didn't rise up to take on cala. The truth is that you would have to ask each and every person that... as EVERYONE had a difference of opinion/belief on the matter.

Slivaf - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Unfortunately whether we like to admit it or not, EVERY faction has a part of them that is "LIKE" equinox or even intandem. (EVERY faction deals with members that the rest of the server/player base despises, and if its a common feeling among the server/people only see the bad players from a faction they will begin to have the belief that EVERYONE from said faction is like that. (I am not saying that is ok, but people DO do it.) However it is very true that every faction also has members that are respectful, and ppl actually enjoy being around. NO faction is immune to that fact... even small factions are capable of having this come up from time to time, even a faction of one person can lead other people to believe something about a faction.) There is a reason why people compared Equinox, and Intandem, aside from the fact that a lot of their members were the same more or less, but a lot of their "attitudes"/personalities/unlikeableness carried over into Intandem with them.

Like is defined as something that has "SIMILAR Qualities" every faction is similar in that fact that each has members that a majority of the public tends to try and avoid due to their ridiculously poor attitude.

As that old saying goes you can NOT be liked by everyone. I am not trying to say you shouldn't care/try... in fact I think its admirable when a faction wants to defend their 'name', or actually cares how they are perceived. Letting members go free so to speak and reeking havoc (regardless of how 'harmless' it seems) on the public is so a double edged sword, some people really dig that kind of thing, but it obviously isn't for everyone. I made a mistake while in eq, I seen something I didn't like and... like a fool I made a big fuss about it, and sadly from what I heard it hurt eq a little bit. (I am not saying it was shook to it's core so to speak, but it did shake things up a bit ;/... sorry again if you were apart of that eq I mentioned. It was never my intention to make things... difficult.)

This is NOT meant to bash/knock down relic, personally I haven't had any problems with ANY members there, although I do suspect a few people there... do not really care for me... which is fine, for some the feeling may very well be mutual. :$

Yay for a "wall" of text WITH spaces. xD

EDIT: As for the original topic/post... I have no freaking clue, and honestly neither do anyone else, hell I am sure even a few among those factions isn't quite sure what the plans were... and really even IF that was the case and they are afraid of them... so what? Plenty of people were afraid of cala, and yet they still felt they were the best faction/the ones to 'beat', and no one really called them out for it, except a select few ppl on the server/those who were in EQ at the time TRYING with little to no avail to 'rally' the server to stop Calamity from taking over.

As for why that failed? Who knows... maybe many people were actually hoping cala would win out, as many people found cala to be quite respectful/peaceful to be around. Maybe it was more that people felt helpless to try and stop cala, because of overwhelming odds, and not just a difference in gears, but more strategy/being able to field a full 80/120 ish people each fight. No one knows for sure... people can guess all day long, and still be no closer to figuring out the 'shared feeling' of why people didn't rise up to take on cala. The truth is that you would have to ask each and every person that... as EVERYONE had a difference of opinion/belief on the matter.

A new faction never starts with the same leader as an old faction or exactly the same members, we make it our OWN faction. We are Relic, that's the name we choose to carry. People left those factions for a reason, and joined this one. We've got members from everywhere. So just cause 10 people out of the 1xx members came from one faction doesn't mean you can associate the entire faction upon a other faction that no longer matters. b:chuckle We're making our own name. Cala or EQ has NOTHING to do with Relic.

Dynasty afraid of Relic?
Categoric NO

cant be that Dynasty have 180 members and 160 are r9 +12 or so...
just when Relic Won first time was superiority of strategy of Relic officers+Dyna didnt think relic can do that good.

2nd time Dyna won in 3 hrs, crashing the Relic s atacks..and entering in Relic base and dmg the crystal.

Why to atack Relic ,when can take free lands and win the season just defending.

anyway Dyna and Relic will face this tw season more often ,but not soon!

and Tempest will win the season ,i m betting for this!

CreamDrinker - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Indeed you can say what you want but that doesn't mean that it's true or even a fair comparison. Relic is Relic that's my point don't think that leaves much room for interpretation

instead of keep saying nonsenses why u cant answer what i asked? i guess u just said the first thing that came to ur mind or my bad english confused u. or u just realized what u said is just bs, couse no1 said what u answered to me, couse i never stated what u said!!! b:byeb:bye

Evangile - Dreamweaver wrote: »

A new faction never starts with the same leader as an old faction or exactly the same members, we make it our OWN faction. We are Relic, that's the name we choose to carry. People left those factions for a reason, and joined this one. We've got members from everywhere. So just cause 10 people out of the 1xx members came from one faction doesn't mean you can associate the entire faction upon a other faction that no longer matters. b:chuckle We're making our own name. Cala or EQ has NOTHING to do with Relic.

Instead of risking further misinterpretation/ire of someone else, I am just going to bold/color/point out a few things in my own post. :$

Slivaf - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Unfortunately whether we like to admit it or not, EVERY faction has a part of them that is "LIKE" equinox or even intandem. (EVERY faction deals with members that the rest of the server/player base despises, and if its a common feeling among the server/people only see the bad players from a faction they will begin to have the belief that EVERYONE from said faction is like that. (I am not saying that is ok, but people DO do it.) However it is very true that every faction also has members that are respectful, and ppl actually enjoy being around. NO faction is immune to that fact... even small factions are capable of having this come up from time to time, even a faction of one person can lead other people to believe something about a faction.) There is a reason why people compared Equinox, and Intandem, aside from the fact that a lot of their members were the same more or less, but a lot of their "attitudes"/personalities/unlikeableness carried over into Intandem with them.

Like is defined as something that has "SIMILAR Qualities" every faction is similar in that fact that each has members that a majority of the public tends to try and avoid due to their ridiculously poor attitude.

As that old saying goes you can NOT be liked by everyone. I am not trying to say you shouldn't care/try... in fact I think its admirable when a faction wants to defend their 'name', or actually cares how they are perceived. Letting members go free so to speak and reeking havoc (regardless of how 'harmless' it seems) on the public is so a double edged sword, some people really dig that kind of thing, but it obviously isn't for everyone. I made a mistake while in eq, I seen something I didn't like and... like a fool I made a big fuss about it, and sadly from what I heard it hurt eq a little bit. (I am not saying it was shook to it's core so to speak, but it did shake things up a bit ;/... sorry again if you were apart of that eq I mentioned. It was never my intention to make things... difficult.)

This is NOT meant to bash/knock down relic, personally I haven't had any problems with ANY members there, although I do suspect a few people there... do not really care for me... which is fine, for some the feeling may very well be mutual. :$

Yay for a "wall" of text WITH spaces. xD

*snip*

Aeliah - Dreamweaver wrote: »

The thing is, these people often exhibited the same behaviors in other factions as well. So this is where I address CreamDrinker and Slivaf directly: both of you are partly right and partly wrong. Cream, you are right, each faction is unique. Yet you are wrong to say that a faction cannot be *very similar* to another faction. In the case of known 'drama' people, these people carry their drama with them wherever they go. Any faction willing to tolerate these people will exhibit a certain, recognizable atmosphere, due to the very presence of these people and their behaviors.

(Sorry snipped out a lot to shorten my wall of text. :$)

Even though you didn't point out where I was wrong, I suspect I know which part you feel I am wrong with, and if I am right in that you think that I am wrong to say every faction has troublemakers so to speak...

If that is right I have this to say about that... some factions are just better at 'hiding' it than others, some faction no matter how rigiourous their applications forms are... someone at some point is bound to slip through the proces and cause problems, there can even be very isolated incidents that give people the misconceived perception that people from a certain faction are *******s for this or that reason. (Some of it can be extremely petty) Still as that old saying goes beauty if in the eye of the beholder. You can NOT be liked by everyone. (Yes isolated incident should NOT give people the belief that a faction is full of bad apples, but sadly it can happen/give people that idea. ) It's not right, but it is human nature.

FistToDeath - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Sorry to prove you wrong, but everyone loves me. b:chuckle

thats true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


and giving a short answer to aeliah wall of text: u are right and wrong. dynasty also had and have their drama players. and i wont be that sure about how decent can be relic and dyna leaders LOL. if ur point is just to stat how weak relic is, i wont be that sure. ofc time will say it. i am sure that wining 1 offense tw doesnt mean relic now is #1 faction, and dynasty losing 1 tw doesnt means that dynasty isnt #1 faction in server anymore.
what u said is something we all think, but tbh time will speak and say how acuarate we are. but pls, dont say that dynasty is a faction free of drama players and such. couse it is not.

Aeliah - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I must admit, Evangile, that I raise an eyebrow to see you speaking about drama-free TWs... when you are the one implicated by many as a contributing factor in the downfall of Vex. Like it or not, a mysterious trail of drama follows you where you go.

So here is a fair warning to Relic: be careful about what you allow from your members. If you let your members partake in any sort of drama-creating activities that they want, history shows that your faction will probably, eventually, suffer as a result. I think it would be simply naivety to think that, somehow, your particular faction will escape the ravages of drama unscathed where other factions could not. If we are to use Dynasty as an example, the only way to avoid drama is to remove it when it appears, instead of trying to tolerate it.

First of all, glad people in Vex point fingers. b:chuckle Cause they need a black sheep don't they? Shame all those people that left, also pm'd me they left cause Biggie switched lead to someone else who dramaticly changed everything in Vex, and then people started leaving. But I wasn't allowed to defend myself in factionchat after getting provoked, cause they'd be pointing fingers at me. b:victory And yeah I totally like that so called ''mysterious trail of drama'' follows me around.. Cause yeah.. we have Vex.. Vex.. and Vex?
b:shocked Long list. But someone who was never in the same faction as me or that has never even talked to me in a decent manner has no right to judge about me cause I'm a fair person and like to be treated as such.
I'm still the same person as before all this gear got out, yet I have stayed the same person. I don't talk as much on WC as I did a year back. I couldn't care less if people dislike me or like me, they have to take me for who I am. In the weeks I have been in Relic there was no drama or whatsoever, at all. No disagreements.. no nothing. I love Relic, and they love me. b:cute So who is to blame now, really?

That warning is also for Dynasty. Wether a faction wins or loses, a faction should never start sht on wc like the common 'This person spawnkilled' without proof or QQ about something. A just 'good fight' would do. (I'm not saying this is one sided, Relic has to stop this too). and topics like the one a Relic member started shouldn't be even there, there's a certain line to how far hate between factions can go and it's been crossed from both sides. I agree with you there. And no I'm not pointing fingers to Dynasty, cause both factions have crossed the line. Some people just want a nice clean long TW, and it's annoying and destroys the mood if people complain about WC or in people's pm's right after. I just don't get why there's always such a fuss about if either Dyna wins from Relic, or Relic wins from Dyna. I understand that Dynasty was unprepared the night that Relic won but that doesn't mean either one of the sides has to underestemate the other. Relic and Dynasty are both great factions, let's just keep the TW's fun. b:shutup
I'm sure there will be alot of typo's or stuff I said that you might not understand or I said wrong but English is not my main language but I try.

FistToDeath - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Sorry to prove you wrong, but everyone loves me. b:chuckle

Oi so that is where the extra gold came from. Thanks *throws a party... all thanks to FoD!* (in other words yes he paid me to 'like' him. b:quiet *shifts eyes* j/k :P)

*hides* :P