Possibility of new class under development

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  • Bubbles - Morai
    Bubbles - Morai Posts: 1,143 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    FlyingStab - Archosaur wrote: »
    Do they have meridian system? Because that reincarnation system and how improve each class remind me that a lot. Anyway i think the discussion about this update should be taken to a different post considering that there is no new race or class include on that update, anything new is that new map and the Reincarnation system that im no sure if its meridian we already have.

    w2i.wanmei is PWCN, aka perfect world 2, aka the main version that are our client is localized from.
    The better question what they have that we don't...


    Meridians is basically chinese acupuncture.

    I will start the new thread.
    Maybe today.

    I usually wait until I have more information, but given that this thread was based off of rumors that are partially confirmed, I think it's best if I start a thread with clarity.

    I really want the whole new race/classes/whips thing to go away already.
    Unless I see it on wanmei's news page, it's not happening. b:surrender
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  • glaesum
    glaesum Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    FlyingStab - Archosaur wrote: »
    Do they have meridian system? Because that reincarnation system and how improve each class remind me that a lot. Anyway i think the discussion about this update should be taken to a different post considering that there is no new race or class include on that update, anything new is that new map and the Reincarnation system that im no sure if its meridian we already have.

    Eh, u takes it wrong.

    1. It has got meridian, coz it's original version (since 2nd April 2013 ?!).
    2. It almost confirm new classes.. official site http://w2i.wanmei.com/news/gamenews/20131009/71614.shtml
    (site who post info faster then official site%
    http://w2i.178.com/201309/174252911838.html
    http://xin.178.com/201309/173402121463.html)
    so.. find 10 differences.
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  • Gertha - Archosaur
    Gertha - Archosaur Posts: 186 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Magnanimous_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Just Doing some digging around. At the time of this post, the first few threads were less than 9hrs old.

    1. Veno's Pakata Design
    2. Barb's Dual Axe Design
    3. Wizard's Magic Sword Desing
    4. Barb's Pole Hammer
    5. Seeker's Sword
    6. Fist
    7. Bow
    8. Wand
    9. Sphere
    10. Glaive

    Nice pataka, but I desperately need to unsee the veno b:faint
  • glaesum
    glaesum Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Bubbles - Morai wrote: »
    w2i.wanmei is PWCN, aka perfect world 2, aka the main
    Unless I see it on wanmei's news page, it's not happening. b:surrender

    Got itb:cute
    http://w2i.wanmei.com/resources/jpg/131009/10021381287573694.jpg
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  • Tetream - Lost City
    Tetream - Lost City Posts: 266 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I hope there will be new classes... It will make the game a little more exiting again for a while... Hoping for a new cool ranged DD class here... f:grin

    If they really work on more ranged classes it would be a bad joke.
    We have ten classes and seven of them are ranged DDs.

    Five classes are arcane build.
    Three classes are heavy build.
    Two classes are light build.

    I don't see any need for more ranged DDs, especially ones which are ranged and arcane.
  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I still prefer the current R9 /R9r3 Patakas. Those two look too weird xD
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Tetream - Lost City wrote: »
    If they really work on more ranged classes it would be a bad joke.
    We have ten classes and seven of them are ranged DDs.

    Five classes are arcane build.
    Three classes are heavy build.
    Two classes are light build.

    I think we'll most likely get a few more LA/HA but there's definitely going to be AA too.

    Maybe we get a magic LA or a magic HA, would be interesting. Either way, just rumors and speculations for now.
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  • Bubbles - Morai
    Bubbles - Morai Posts: 1,143 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    glaesum wrote: »
    Eh, u takes it wrong.

    1. It has got meridian, coz it's original version (since 2nd April 2013 ?!).
    2. It almost confirm new classes.. official site http://w2i.wanmei.com/news/gamenews/20131009/71614.shtml
    (site who post info faster then official site%
    http://w2i.178.com/201309/174252911838.html
    http://xin.178.com/201309/173402121463.html)
    so.. find 10 differences.
    glaesum wrote: »
    Got itb:cute
    http://w2i.wanmei.com/resources/jpg/131009/10021381287573694.jpg

    I know nothing about chinese, but the engrish I get from google translate reference nothing about new races.
    If you know the language and can translate where it mentions new races, go ahead.
    That'd be nice to know for sure or not.

    That picture of the girl with the whip and wand could either be a new race or a npc.
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  • curlya
    curlya Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    glaesum wrote: »
    Got itb:cute
    http://w2i.wanmei.com/resources/jpg/131009/10021381287573694.jpg


    Those pictures are a year old.There where also pictures of a gunlady at this time.
  • bluestuffzzz
    bluestuffzzz Posts: 627 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Lolgasmic - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Stop being a negative nancy! Stahp it, No! f:poo

    PWE and Wanmei have been pretty lame, or OK at best with their development (At least by the time it makes it over to PWI....). If the original devs are coming back to overhaul the engine, class balance, and PK.... I can only hope that something this ludicrous is true.

    And for the record, if PWE and Wanmei actually go through with this, I just might start to be a fan! .. Instead of someone who swears at them behind their back.

    Yeah, I'm quite pessimistic about development in this game. Let's look over some of the basic reasons why.

    1.) The game's engine (Angelica) was created before PW1 (Pay to play China version) was created - this date is somewhere around 2002-2004. A few years after the original creation, Wanmei bought out the original development house & began working on the game's F2P version, also known as PW2 (Perfect world version 2). After a successful launch, Wanmei licensed the game out to various publishers, and began working on localization/patches since then.

    2.) The Angelica engine has severe drawbacks. It doesn't support multi-threading, can't read more than 2GB (crashes without a manual patch, when the client hogs more than 2GB), no 64-bit native support, most CPU-rendering and very little GPU-rendering (hence why buying a high-end graphics card won't effect PWI's performance), and many limitations in-game such as how the server reads player location (rubberbanding), poor auto-pathing, and many boutique/cash-shop limitations.

    Knowing these very heavy and taxing limitations, an overhaul to even put the game on a performance level of various titles from 2007-2010 - would require removing the Angelica Engine completely and coming up with a new engine, OR resulting in rewritting the entire engine from near-dead scratch.

    Let's not forget the re-used animation, sound, and graphical assets. That, combined with the new areas utilizing different rendering mechanics than the old areas (DX 9.0/9.0c, and new rendering within Angelica).

    I just don't see this happening, frankly. Wanmei has said in the past that they planned to make the game more 3D and "pop" out at players... It never happened. They said that we would get graphical improvements to the entire game - which was just a DX update that didn't change anything from 2012 or older. They have said that they would fix simple crashing in Nation Wars, RB, and simple bugs like that - didn't work, though. Recently, in the latest content update, we were promised better optimization for the client. That resulted in added sliders for turning the graphics down on lower-end PCs - no fixes or optimizations to mid-range or beastly PCs, or anything to really make the game run better for most players.

    Also, the idea that a group of developers who went MIA after being bought out by Wanmei, are now coming back after almost 10 years... It's so not believable, that it's actually comical.
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I'm excited I won't deny it but I've also learnt to never put my expectations too high with this game and just enjoy whatever good thing they add.
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  • Azura - Lost City
    Azura - Lost City Posts: 2,281 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Is this veno a desert fox?
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  • Gertha - Archosaur
    Gertha - Archosaur Posts: 186 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Lol, desert fox is actually adorable b:cute
    And that artwork veno in the 1st picture looks like a silver fox. Why don't they have a silver fox and an arctic fox presets in the character creation section?..
  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Fennec foxes are cuties, I want one as a pet :3

    It might be a mix of silver fox and fennec fox thing, you know how PW artworks are; they are never quite accurate on what we actually have in-game. I doubt they are making new Venomancer presets but it would be nice if they did.
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  • Gertha - Archosaur
    Gertha - Archosaur Posts: 186 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Desdi - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Fennec foxes are cuties, I want one as a pet :3

    It might be a mix of silver fox and fennec fox thing, you know how PW artworks are; they are never quite accurate on what we actually have in-game. I doubt they are making new Venomancer presets but it would be nice if they did.

    I believe TB and especially EG classes could use more presets, rather than venos. Old races are fairly easy to customize, more flexible despite lower graphic quality. While those Earthguards seem just... monolithic.
  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Gertha - Archosaur wrote: »
    I believe TB and especially EG classes could use more presets, rather than venos. Old races are fairly easy to customize, more flexible despite lower graphic quality. While those Earthguards seem just... monolithic.

    Agreed and..lol at monolithic xD
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  • Asone - Raging Tide
    Asone - Raging Tide Posts: 792 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Well the artwork looks really nice. I've always wondered when they would release that Dragon City ever since I saw the NPC with that title over it's head in Archosaur. Guess I'll just kick back and wait for our expansion to come out in several months. f:brick
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  • Miugre - Heavens Tear
    Miugre - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Arch Studios returning, even if it's still a rumor......

    ...I'm going to curb my enthusiasm until Bubbles posts an official thread, but... wow. Just wow.

    It'll be interesting (read: exasperating) to see what the cynics do with this information. I think we've all become a little cynical over the years, and for some of us it's going to be hard to believe in any good news. But some people here, I think, will hold onto their cynicism with their dying breath.

    They've forgotten what these forums were like before the troll culture took over back around 2010. Interesting how they haven't really infiltrated this thread yet. Maybe they saw the thread title and just assumed it was the newbie-theory-of-the-week. :P

    Anyway, holding my tongue on that for now and just watching this thread with interest...
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  • pokemonpearl
    pokemonpearl Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Even tho there is news of new classes every1 should relize what it takes to make one and how long making classes will probably take them a year and hanlf if they r making 4 its not as simple as every1 thinks this stuff takes time even with a bunch of game creators it will still tale them awhile so if u want new classes I advise u guys to stop being greedy and just play the game I am waiting on new classes as well but unless ur gonna be playing for the next few years I'd advise u to stop begging for new classes ijs
  • GlenRoss - Archosaur
    GlenRoss - Archosaur Posts: 430 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    In before SweetieBot
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  • bluestuffzzz
    bluestuffzzz Posts: 627 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    pokemonpearl wrote: »
    Even tho there is news of new classes every1 should relize what it takes to make one and how long making classes will probably take them a year and hanlf if they r making 4 its not as simple as every1 thinks this stuff takes time even with a bunch of game creators it will still tale them awhile so if u want new classes I advise u guys to stop being greedy and just play the game I am waiting on new classes as well but unless ur gonna be playing for the next few years I'd advise u to stop begging for new classes ijs

    1.) You necro'ed a thread from two months ago.

    2.) Run-on sentences and grammatical issues all over. Start learning how to formulate properly in the language that this forum is based on. That being, English.

    3.) Your advice is not needed. We have known what will come in the next expansion for a while now. Your not giving us any new information.

    4.) Most people haven't "begged" for new classes. Some have stated that it would be a nice addition, yes. Can you point out a post where someone literally begged for new classes, poke.monpearl?

    5.) Wanmei, the developer of this specific title, has shown in the past that new classes generally come out in expansions. We have one expansion per year, but it doesn't take the full year to develop new classes. Also, the client has a limit of 10 classes, so that's not feasible at present anyways.

    6.) No one is being greedy by stating that it would be nice to have additional classes.

    Good luck.
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  • DemansPsy - Lost City
    DemansPsy - Lost City Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Imma just get my +1 post count, also where the heck is Sweetiebot? Been 30 minutes already.
    full 3r9 +11/12 (still using immac shards though) w/o CSing, leveled to 105 spaming pv, yes i have no life =D
  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited December 2013
    closed for necro

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