Getting focussed in PK - Harassment?

Kablaab - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Lets not forget the 10 hour minimum for being white named on a PvE server. If the OP (or anyone in such situation) had only opened up PK mode a couple hours before being stalked - there really isn't a way to turn pk mode back off. They would have to safe zone it (while staying logged on) or else continue to run the risk of being pk'd for the remainder of the time before being able to get back out of PK mode.

I have no sympathy for any idiot on a blue server that goes white or red thinking it will make them seem more "cool" only to find their **** is used for toasting by the more "pro" button mashers.

Can't you gain chi just as fast by staying blue and dueling someone without the risk of going white and getting your (not aimed at you) mantie panties in a bunch if someone kills you?

Several players in this particular thread are in part responsible for the portrayal of PvE players characterized as incompetents.

That's my attempt at saying in kind and civil like.
You're in a server where in order to kill another player you must willing make yourself killable for a duration of time.

Then you complain about being killed in that duration of time....

Then others support your complaint of getting killed in that duration of time that you willingly made yourself killable for the purposes of killing others.

It's laughable.
It's pathetic.
It shows lack of common sense, intelligence, or logic.

As for verbal harassment,

L2 Blacklist.

jaketheriper wrote: »

You really want like 50 people a day quit to keep one noobish cashplaying no-lifer? -.-

lol of course. if you are not paying you are the product.

DionDagger - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yes lets exclude the fact cleric are one of the most broken classes when well geared, or maybe you still holding a grudge for something that this particular person can not control. People like you make me sick. Unless they did something to you personally, it's stupid to try and hold a grudge against all sins. More than likely this fish ain't OP. Especially if the other sin is killing him that easy.

LOL broken seriously then you do not know how to play your class if you think a well geared EP is broken.

Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »

Several players in this particular thread are in part responsible for the portrayal of PvE players characterized as incompetents.

That's my attempt at saying in kind and civil like.
You're in a server where in order to kill another player you must willing make yourself killable for a duration of time.

Then you complain about being killed in that duration of time....

Then others support your complaint of getting killed in that duration of time that you willingly made yourself killable for the purposes of killing others.

It's laughable.
It's pathetic.
It shows lack of common sense, intelligence, or logic.

As for verbal harassment,

L2 Blacklist.

Actually as far as I know people can do it by accident also. A faction member clicked the pk mode button the other day on accident when she went to click my dot on the mini map to autopath to me. she had to go hide in reflection the rest of the day. I've gone into PK mode once just to play around with my faction at the time then hid in Archo wile I slept

The OP isn't QQing about being killed they are QQing about the same person following them around killing them over and over again nonstop. That is griefing and who ever is telling the the person where the OP is needs to be un friended or kicked from the faction.
You don't do that to friends/faction mates.

Yes the OP willingly went into PK mode. That still don't give anyone the right to follow them and grief them.

Tigriss_o - Raging Tide wrote: »

Actually as far as I know people can do it by accident also. A faction member clicked the pk mode button the other day on accident when she went to click my dot on the mini map to autopath to me.

How do you even do that, considering there's a saftey question after clicking the button...?

PK is pk but i think the stalking part has an issue. I remember in the past pple on PVP servers were able to report others that stalk harass kirred them during quests despite it being a PVP server.

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Jesya - Lost City wrote: »

LOL broken seriously then you do not know how to play your class if you think a well geared EP is broken.

Lol and you stupid as hell to think they aren't, especially one that has all of their morai skills, or maybe you haven't seen a r9rr +12 take down a barb in the same gear. Ofc skill comes into play, but during the last update to skills clerics were given a ** ton of power. Magical Shackle is like soulburn to a sin. I know how to play my class very ****ing well thank you, better than most who have been playing the class way longer, also I started playing PWI right after beta TY so I dont appreciate your idiocy. Maybe you should learn to play cleric better instead on making open ended assumption from how the game was 2 years ago. Thinks have changed.

SkogDyr - Lost City wrote: »

Okay, let's take this step by step...

Broken classes? You must be a frosted flake to think that an EP is broken. I won't debate you on this as you need to head to the store and buy a clue before we continue.

I say sins in general because they are a pain in the butt during open PvP and TW. It could be that you're too new to remember when stabby fish first came out. Most the time the sins' favorite game was poof-twitch the arcanes... and you need to ask why a caster would distrust sins?

As for your other statement... OP = original poster.

Really, I've tried to be as nice as I can in my reply to you... you should have heard what the voices in my fragile little mind wanted me to type. <shudder> b:sad

As for you, in most game i play OP is overpowered/hax/broken, excuse me if you can't understand simple game lingo that's pretty universal, or maybe you can and you are being butthurt like in your last post, I honestly could care less.

First of all before i tear you a new one lets think. I started playing before genies, r8, and BH came out, this gives me about 2-3 years of play time before you even knew what a sin was.

Second, you forget that a sin is just a character that can be changed at will. What about all your caster friends that rolled a sin, would you distrust them too? Or did you forget that the person makes the toon, not the other damn way around.

Third if this is the case, that also means that some of the people you trust also made a habit of 'poofing' casters, especially in TW situations where a lot of people played sins. But this is no longer the case, a sin need to have top gear to survive other wise any caster can sparks and one shot them, the aps and low refined variety in particular.

Fourth, I played a barb before the tideborn came out. Do you know how it feels to be completely ****ing useless in a squad? Nothing other than a buff ho? Well I feel the same way on my sin now adays since i changed my main toon to a sin. So i get shafted not once, but twice, and you still don't see me b1tching about it on the forums and blaming a whole entire class for the actions of jerks.

What you are is pathetic, and butthurt. You remind me of the people you hate all black people, because of one bad incident, or any other ethnicity. And don't say it's not the same because you are using the same excuse to harass sins (or those who play them),

DionDagger - Dreamweaver wrote: »

As for you, in most game i play OP is overpowered/hax/broken, excuse me if you can't understand simple game lingo that's pretty universal, or maybe you can and you are being butthurt like in your last post, I honestly could care less.

First of all before i tear you a new one lets think. I started playing before genies, r8, and BH came out, this gives me about 2-3 years of play time before you even knew what a sin was.

Second, you forget that a sin is just a character that can be changed at will. What about all your caster friends that rolled a sin, would you distrust them too? Or did you forget that the person makes the toon, not the other damn way around.

Third if this is the case, that also means that some of the people you trust also made a habit of 'poofing' casters, especially in TW situations where a lot of people played sins. But this is no longer the case, a sin need to have top gear to survive other wise any caster can sparks and one shot them, the aps and low refined variety in particular.

Fourth, I played a barb before the tideborn came out. Do you know how it feels to be completely ****ing useless in a squad? Nothing other than a buff ho? Well I feel the same way on my sin now adays since i changed my main toon to a sin. So i get shafted not once, but twice, and you still don't see me b1tching about it on the forums and blaming a whole entire class for the actions of jerks.

What you are is pathetic, and butthurt. You remind me of the people you hate all black people, because of one bad incident, or any other ethnicity. And don't say it's not the same because you are using the same excuse to harass sins (or those who play them),

I would like to just point out that: Reverse ad hominem doesn't work really well either.
I can list a whole bunch of credentials, but my arguments aren't taken into consideration because I said I'm pro. It's because my arguments have truth in them.

I only started playing when the Archosaur server came out. This is my 2nd MMO, the first being a very simplistic game run by Jagex. Nevertheless, my percentile, among other players, is probably very good.

On the original topic: If you're complaining about PvE Pk harassment, ultimately it's your fault for clicking the button, then pressing confirm. Bans for this kind of thing will really only happen if harassment is unavoidable, as with the old Secret Passage or PvP servers.

Just play 10 hours and chat with friends. The time will fly.

This is the dumbest thread ever. There only needed to be one response that said, "You are on a PVE server. Go blue name. Problem Solved."

I don't see why everyone think's "you're in PVE server go blue", i mean its actually the normal option, but since he's being chased everywhere he goes, it would mean he'd never be able to pk ever, cause if he turned white name another time he would have this guy following him around again?
So my opinion is if someone is being killed and keep goings back to the same place he was killed, indeed the only thing he can do is switch to blue, but if he's being killed by the SAME person everywhere he goes which includes places that people don't usually go for PK, it should be considered harassment.

Why then QQ about having a hard life on a PvP server, if you chose this PvP server for your own fun? And you have all these safe zones and stuff on PvP server, too. Harassment should be punishable anyway. Yes, PWI, as a role-playing game, allows douchebags to be what they are, but to some reasonable limit.
And as my lvl 100 is not far ahead, I want to be able to do Veno dailies and not happy about forced white-name, if it makes me a legitimate target for people with issues.

HideYoHubby - Archosaur wrote: »

Camping people like OP described is bannable offense though. I cant remember how ToS worded it, think it was considered harassing and thus offence.

Euthymius - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Now that is a detail you did not add into the OP.

If he's still chasing you around while you're trying to do other things, you could try threatening to report him and screenshot his response/further kill-attempts to send with a ticket (good luck, you WILLINGLY ENTERED PK MODE), but thats your only option outside of leaving PK mode.

>Still on a PvE server where you can turn PK Mode off while hiding in Safe Zone after a short while...

Malei - Sanctuary wrote: »

Someone needs to chill.

People have various reasons for going PK, whether it be going into a PvP server for constant thrills or even trying it once on PvE to see what it would be like. OP's situation sounds as though he probably hit 101, got some new gear, and thinking he'd be a little more than a walking one-shot, wanted to try out the open world PK to see what it was like. [ this is putting it as lightly as I can assume ] It does not excuse someone following him to every location and killing him to try and make his playing time impossible.



If he were questing around PK hot spots, I can see it. If he happened to be in the same, open-world spot as this guy, and he keeps being PK'd by him, okay. But if he's moving around the map, and this guy is stalking him and keeping tabs on him to show up everywhere he is in order to keep earning kills off of him and make his gaming impossible, its harassment and he needs to go PK elsewhere. Even if you can turn PK off, it takes 10 hours to do so. Being on a PvE server doesn't take away the harassment behind the actions.

Christ, even another PvP server inhabitant is telling you this.

Anyway, to the OP: where you are, if he's there, screenshot it. Screenshot everytime you get attacked by him and make sure to explain your situation really well in the ticket. Don't touch the dates of the screenshot, leave the UI on in case he's chatting at you as well, catch everything. If he really is going that far to have you tailed for 2 hours straight, something can be done about it I'm sure.

Edit: And I know this is late, but just keep it in mind for any future attempts at PvP you may try to do - if this didn't kill your taste for it. Being on PvE server shouldn't change the rules of PvP for anyone.

"shouldn't change the rules of pvp for anyone"

The rules WERE changed, as result of people of the OP's mindset.
Also, "PvP servers" are just normal servers nothing changed or special about them. They work the way they were intended by this game's creators.

"PvE servers" are an actual thing.
They are an altered version of the game with content removed for a western audience.

You can't convince me or any logic minded individual that the OP needs staff intervention.
He has blacklist
He has instances
He has safe zone
He has map areas too large to single out an individual through use of a false friend's friendslist.
He has the ability to turn blue name in less than 1/7th the minimum recommended wait time for a ticket (2 hours over a full night sleep).

All of these resources to deal with a situation he willingly chose to put himself into.

I'm sorry, but staff has better much more important things to deal with than this sort of pathetic b-tching which will already have been resolved by the time they even arrive at the ticket.

People like this are why pertinent issues don't receive expedient support.