Getting focussed in PK - Harassment?

jaketheriper
jaketheriper Posts: 0 Arc User
edited September 2013 in General Discussion
Well guys, i just decided to pk a bit today and im a lvl 101 sin... ofc im in stealth etc, waiting for someone to fight. Since 2 hours another lvl 104 r9s3 +12 sin is hunting me and not leaving me alone, i never insulted him, i never even talked to him before. We are in allied factions, he keeps killing me for no reason... Couldnt that be counted as harassment or anything? The players name is -snip- server and well, GMs should even bann him to bring him back to real life, because i think its not the sense of the game that someone who has his endgear is **** lower lvls just for fun... You really want like 50 people a day quit to keep one noobish cashplaying no-lifer? -.-
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  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    >Naming and Shaming isn't allowed on this forum.

    >You're on a PVE server and in PK Mode willingly - you're fair game to anypony capable of facing you, just as the other PKers are should you be capable of killing them.

    >You're not questing or being inhibited from some daily activity, so you are (again) fair game.


    Perhaps you should work on becoming a better hunter before venturing into PK mode and being made into prey again.
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  • jaketheriper
    jaketheriper Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    He even hunted me in Questing on other parts of the map....... Hes really really really hunting me -.- When i leave any safe zone - - - > BAMS
  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    You chose to be in PK. And I don't see how he could follow you unless you just fly the way. lol Tele once and he'll be gone.
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  • jaketheriper
    jaketheriper Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I teleported already to 1k and went into Hell to quest there and farm some DQ and stuff... he appeared even there -.-
  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Lol, you probably got someone on your fl then telling him on you. b:chuckle
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  • skaitavia
    skaitavia Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Naming and shaming on the forums is not allowed. Unfortunately there isn't much you can do, since you chose to go into PK mode/white name mode on your own free will in a PvE server. Because of that, you're free game to anyone that can kill you.

    My suggestion is to turn blue named for the time being. If you really feel like you're being harassed, then take screenshots, and submit a ticket. A link to that can be found in my signature.
  • jaketheriper
    jaketheriper Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Naming and Shaming isnt allowed. it was said high already. we all know you have strict facts what to say, dear GMs, but if you already Support the Forums, you could also support the servers life... I just paid a lvl 105 sin to kill the ***** (Thats the censored name) 104 sin... and the 104 sin used a observation potion as sin... Isnt taht awesome bug using? -.-
  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    He even hunted me in Questing on other parts of the map....... BAMS

    Now that is a detail you did not add into the OP.

    If he's still chasing you around while you're trying to do other things, you could try threatening to report him and screenshot his response/further kill-attempts to send with a ticket (good luck, you WILLINGLY ENTERED PK MODE), but thats your only option outside of leaving PK mode.
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  • jaketheriper
    jaketheriper Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Now that is a detail you did not add into the OP.

    If he's still chasing you around while you're trying to do other things, you could try threatening to report him and screenshot his response/further kill-attempts to send with a ticket, but thats your only option outside of leaving PK mode.

    Well, thanks for that, ill do that now. I really hope he gets banned to find back into real life -.-
  • FaceRolI - Sanctuary
    FaceRolI - Sanctuary Posts: 450 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Skaitavia wrote: »
    If you really feel like you're being harassed, then take screenshots, and submit a ticket.

    This is not a personal attack... but really why should he submit a ticket?

    The "normal" forum response on the topic of PW support is to complain that nothing would happen if a ticket was submitted, the opposite is true in this case.

    Imagine if "something" does happen as a result of his ticket... most likely the individual pking him gets a temp ban. Is that the result that PWE and the PWI community supports?

    Personally I dont think the guy pking you is all that cool, but neither should he be banned. Of course as a "community" (not really anymore) individuals should feel ... safe (?) but you agreed to enter pk mode so suck it up.

    ofc some1 will reply about how its harassment if you are being pked and it prevents you from completing your quest. OP could be telling the truth but if hes not how would you know (yes it is possible but unlikely).

    Next time I get pked at silver pool I just need to submit ticket saying I was there to kill kun kun... Or I was flying from archo to _____ in order to complete ____ quest... ofc as players who play the game we can easily distinguish that a 105 wouldn't be killing kun kun (as fearsome as kun kun is).

    complete the thought.
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  • Sassy/ss_ - Sanctuary83
    Sassy/ss_ - Sanctuary83 Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    This is not a personal attack... but really why should he submit a ticket?

    The "normal" forum response on the topic of PW support is to complain that nothing would happen if a ticket was submitted, the opposite is true in this case.

    Imagine if "something" does happen as a result of his ticket... most likely the individual pking him gets a temp ban. Is that the result that PWE and the PWI community supports?

    Personally I dont think the guy pking you is all that cool, but neither should he be banned. Of course as a "community" (not really anymore) individuals should feel ... safe (?) but you agreed to enter pk mode so suck it up.

    ofc some1 will reply about how its harassment if you are being pked and it prevents you from completing your quest. OP could be telling the truth but if hes not how would you know (yes it is possible but unlikely).

    Next time I get pked at silver pool I just need to submit ticket saying I was there to kill kun kun... Or I was flying from archo to _____ in order to complete ____ quest... ofc as players who play the game we can easily distinguish that a 105 wouldn't be killing kun kun (as fearsome as kun kun is).

    complete the thought.

    These crybaby kids cry when they die :o...

    Why not just fight bk vs the sin even if u can't win is my question ?
  • Wickedbrew - Raging Tide
    Wickedbrew - Raging Tide Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    And people think PvEers on a PvE server whine too much.

    Go PK get PKed. Even on RT the most vocal PvPers in WC are a bunch of whining immature brats. Self buffed, squad buffed, oh no 2 vs 1, SZ losers, gankers, etc. They are the laughing stock of the RT world with their little false egos, and boo hooing at each other. They remind me of a class of kindergarten kids. So many "rules" in PK/PvP its hysterical, but, oh they are so cool. (In their own juvenile brains maybe)
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Skaitavia wrote: »
    Unfortunately there isn't much you can do, since you chose to go into PK mode/white name mode on your own free will in a PvE server. Because of that, you're free game to anyone that can kill you.

    I'm not sure it's how it work, on PVP servers more than 3 kills is bannable and on PVE server you could stalk someone and PK the person 345 times without any punishment?

    I'm sorry, but I do not believe it's more accepted on a PVE server than PVP server to chain kill/quest block and harass.

    Harassment is harassment ijs, you should never say to someone that harassment is accepted on PVE server if people are in PK mode.

    On PVP servers people can be ban for PK more than 3 times the same person EVEN at a PVP spot like SP (Silver Pool) and West, people chose PVP server knowing they can be PK at anytime and yet it's banable more than 3 times on the same person and if the person follow you and block you from questing, it's harassment, PVE or PVP server it is harassment and can be punish.

    To the OP: If you have SS, report the person, if you don't have SS there's nothing that can be done, next time take SS and also after 3-4 times the person pk you, pm and ask POLITELY to stop saying you are questing or w/e.

    Do not yell names at the person, do not threat the person or you could be the one ending banned.
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  • bluestuffzzz
    bluestuffzzz Posts: 627 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Naming and Shaming isnt allowed. it was said high already. we all know you have strict facts what to say, dear GMs, but if you already Support the Forums, you could also support the servers life... I just paid a lvl 105 sin to kill the ***** (Thats the censored name) 104 sin... and the 104 sin used a observation potion as sin... Isnt taht awesome bug using? -.-

    1.) What? What's with the poor grammatically structured sentences? From what I'm getting out of what you've said: QQ and bad punctuation & spelling.

    2.) That wasn't a GM. It was a moderator.

    3.) No one from PWE can forcefully send someone in-game back to "real life", as you state. Unless they hunt the person's location, and get a warrant for arrest - thus, keeping them in a prison or confiscating internet connectivity for evidence. Good luck with that.
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  • Mazumii - Dreamweaver
    Mazumii - Dreamweaver Posts: 270 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    if you are in pk mode there is nothing you can do, now what i do is I purposly stay blue named, and when im farming or questing if i see a white name or even a red name, i look at there gears and lvl, and usual turn in to pk mode, sage spark+ brambled them into a group of mobs, they die and drop stuff but i still keep my white name lol. I had one archer who was 103 cry about dropping a full stack of longem herb plus a mount.....i npc'd the mount right in front of him lol, they threatened to report me, but i went on and followed them and pk'd them 5 more times, and i never got red named lol
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Well guys, i just decided to pk a bit today and im a lvl 101 sin... ofc im in stealth etc, waiting for someone to fight. Since 2 hours another lvl 104 r9s3 +12 sin is hunting me and not leaving me alone, i never insulted him, i never even talked to him before. We are in allied factions, he keeps killing me for no reason... Couldnt that be counted as harassment or anything? The players name is -snip- server and well, GMs should even bann him to bring him back to real life, because i think its not the sense of the game that someone who has his endgear is **** lower lvls just for fun... You really want like 50 people a day quit to keep one noobish cashplaying no-lifer? -.-

    The way pwi makes money is off player's frustration. Especially in pk where 90% of success depends on how much you have put into your character, be it farming, merching, or cashing. Of course the fastest way to bridge the gap is to cash, and that is what pwi banks on. If you cant take the heat get out of the kitchen. And QQing about pk on a pve server is ridiculous.
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    if you are in pk mode there is nothing you can do

    I doubt it, it's bannable on PVP servers to pk people over and over again and yet people did CHOSE to be on a PVP server knowing people can pk them all the time.

    I highly doubt it's allowed to harass pk someone on a PVE server while it's not on a PVP server.
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  • teammeatsauce
    teammeatsauce Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Doesn't matter since ALL he has to do is stay blue name lol b:laugh
  • Walpurga - Dreamweaver
    Walpurga - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,028 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Rule is attacking someone 3 times in a row without consent in a short period of time constitutes harassment.
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Outside of sz as a white/red name, ESPECIALLY at a pk hotspot, is essentially consent to be pked. Don't like it, go sz or go blue named.

    Now if the guy is legit stalking like...you go to do something in Heaven and he's there and then you go do something in the desert and he's there, etc. etc. like he's following you everywhere when the two of you are online, then yeah. That's reportable.
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  • skaitavia
    skaitavia Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I'm not sure it's how it work, on PVP servers more than 3 kills is bannable and on PVE server you could stalk someone and PK the person 345 times without any punishment?

    Yes, but then I ask, what is stopping the PvE person from going back to blue named, such that even if he is stalked by another person, cannot be killed by another person because he's safe from PK?

    When you go white name on a PvE server, that's more or less consent for "hey, I'm attackable, attack me at your own risk, because I fully understand the risks I'm taking by going white named. I don't have to go white named/into PvP mode, but I choose to".
  • SkogDyr - Lost City
    SkogDyr - Lost City Posts: 561 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I always thought that the 3x and you're out rule applied to PvP servers only because we don't have a choice in white vs blue name.

    In a PvE, you can choose to blue name it while questing then return to white name for PvP.

    The OP has been told how to quest in blue name mode. If the OP chooses to white name it out of SZ then that his it's choice. PvP servers don't have the choice hence the rule.

    Any route, the OP is a stabby fish... They've had a couple years of free reign terror against us EPs. I have no sympathy for twitchy trout tweakers. b:angry
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Skaitavia wrote: »
    Yes, but then I ask, what is stopping the PvE person from going back to blue named

    That make no sens.

    Do you agree/know that people on PVP server that pk more than 3 times can get ban if reported?

    GM did confirm it.

    But the people did CHOSE to play on a PVP server, KNOWING it's open PVP.

    So for you it make sense that on a PVP server we cannot freely kill people at the risk to get ban, but on PVE server people can harass white name as much as they want.... without any risk of ban...

    The chose to be on PK mode on PVE server is like the chose to play on a PVP server.
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  • skaitavia
    skaitavia Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    The chose to be on PK mode on PVE server is like the chose to play on a PVP server.

    While that's true, it all boils down to a PvE server having more options than a PvP server, unfortunately.
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Skaitavia wrote: »
    While that's true, it all boils down to a PvE server having more options than a PvP server, unfortunately.

    Just LOL.. harassment is allowed on PVE servers...

    Let's reroll on PVE servers. xD
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  • Gnip - Raging Tide
    Gnip - Raging Tide Posts: 97 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Pretty much the same thing happened to us when a group of friends wanted to pk with level 30s. we were continually attacked. So sent a ticket, guess what they said... essentially "too bad" so yeah if you're on a pve server the gms do not care if you are picked on or bullied. One solution was to have a few 105 sins hang around and kill anyone within striking distance hehe.
  • SkogDyr - Lost City
    SkogDyr - Lost City Posts: 561 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Just LOL.. harassment is allowed on PVE servers...

    Let's reroll on PVE servers. xD


    Bella, I think what is meant here is that PvE people can chose to be PvP or PvE so they have an option to stop people from harassment by just going blue name during their quest.
    PvP server people are **** outta coffee ( that's S.O.L. in polite terms) at lvl 30.

    To be honest, harassment killing is just plain rude and shows a lack of maturity about the one doing it. At least on a PvE, it is easy to switch to blue name and take the bullseye off your back. The basement dweller will have to move on and not get there orgasmic thrill by repeat killing someone on a quest. Problem solved for the questor.
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Bella, I think what is meant here is that PvE people can chose to be PvP or PvE so they have an option to stop people from harassment by just going blue name during their quest.
    PvP server people are **** outta coffee ( that's S.O.L. in polite terms) at lvl 30.

    As people have a option to play on PVP or PVE server.

    We chose to play on PVP server to fight people, but we need to watch our back to don't get ban for it. While in PVE server they can, it's just funny. xD
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  • DionDagger - Dreamweaver
    DionDagger - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,140 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I always thought that the 3x and you're out rule applied to PvP servers only because we don't have a choice in white vs blue name.

    In a PvE, you can choose to blue name it while questing then return to white name for PvP.

    The OP has been told how to quest in blue name mode. If the OP chooses to white name it out of SZ then that his it's choice. PvP servers don't have the choice hence the rule.

    Any route, the OP is a stabby fish... They've had a couple years of free reign terror against us EPs. I have no sympathy for twitchy trout tweakers. b:angry

    Yes lets exclude the fact cleric are one of the most broken classes when well geared, or maybe you still holding a grudge for something that this particular person can not control. People like you make me sick. Unless they did something to you personally, it's stupid to try and hold a grudge against all sins. More than likely this fish ain't OP. Especially if the other sin is killing him that easy.
  • Kablaab - Dreamweaver
    Kablaab - Dreamweaver Posts: 57 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Lets not forget the 10 hour minimum for being white named on a PvE server. If the OP (or anyone in such situation) had only opened up PK mode a couple hours before being stalked - there really isn't a way to turn pk mode back off. They would have to safe zone it (while staying logged on) or else continue to run the risk of being pk'd for the remainder of the time before being able to get back out of PK mode.