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Morridune - Raging Tide wrote: »

from the lol reference ( meh ) im assuming pvp is aim, what seperates ppl who rock pvp and ppl who fall over tons is 2 things: 1st, gear 2nd, who has the better understanding of their classes/game mechanics and how to manipulate em to their advantage

800m will get u decent gear for pretty much any toon i wont say the best but nothing you'd be embarrassed to be seen about in, 800m will not buy u an understanding of the games mechanics tho so yeh u might be good but some1 = gear with betr understanding will lol u wanna be great go learn to use it ;P

Right, I realize how much more weight gear carries than the little bit of room permitted for skill to shine (after all, there is a cap restricting how much you can actually do, it's still an mmorpg at the end of the day), but my main concern is whether or not a bm financed with 800m can play aggressively and compete to the extent that I can be a serious nuisance for CS'ers, given the bm's kit. But its starting to sound like that style of play died out for BM's now that casters have been buffed across the boards. The only reason I ask is because I don't know the market that well, after all, I was a wizard, there was barely much I could farm, I only got my rrr9 after a lot of time playing and a lot of help from friends.

I was just having fun with c.ocky humor because there's no other way to get the message across that learning the character or skill would not be the issue here for me, so I was hoping for advice with that fact in mind and not the generic feedback you give to first timers. I wasn't trolling though.

Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »

Morridune - just to highlight a very simple and glaring example about game mechanics. A friend was in cube, lvl 70 sin. Another lvl 84 sin decided to kill him. He put on deaden nerves and killed the lvl 84 sin. The lvl 84 sin did not understand how he got killed, and called the friend a scammer.

This was back in the glory days of aps.

Since i am bored.

800m

Cube neck = 60m
Warsong belt = 40m
Pan gu tome = 200m
G16 gear piece = 40mx6 = 240m
G16 weapon = 80m
Rings = 25mx2 = 50m

Total gear cost = 670m

130m = refines = +5 gear and some pieces +6. Rings = 0 refine. As a bm your buffed hp at +6 refines in a full g16 gear be around 9~12k. That is easy one shot for other people.

To answer your question, 800m is not enough. To get +10 refines on 9 pieces of gear, you will need 1 billion coin roughly, so 1.67billion, and you will have decent hp for PVP. That will push your hp to 17~20k mark. You will be less likely to be one shot, but it will happen, some people just hit hard.

I still think OP is trolling.

Thanks, that helped some.

Slivaf - Dreamweaver wrote: »

My current gear, and while I may not be an easy one shot it is still extremely difficult closing the gaps between people to even begin to try and stun them.

If you haven't noticed on you wizard how often you/others specifically target bm's... you will soon find out, and no matter how well you play one you will get owned left and right in mass pvp on a bm, which so isn't fun at least not to me it isn't. (though I don't use charms/a specific genie for survival... which if I did... it survival skills would likely take a front seat over something else that we very much need to even try to stun lock, and that is chi, and that is where apo comes in. Which on a barb/seeker/even sin you can focus on just survival skills on your genie, and not worry so much about keeping up chi, but as for the bm... well reread what I just... typed. :$)

In short, unless you have the gear/are willing to go out of your way to prepare your bm for mass pvp, as in Charms, apo, a genie for survival/chi, and rather epic gear... you likely will not like how often you die before you even have the chance to attack others. (If you manage to survive a caster, a archer or seeker, and even some sins/barbs other bms can make you pay dearly for tryign to protect from magic attacks) Ergo gear is really important on a bm.

Again I am not a one shot, but still I do find it insanely difficult to get to others/enjoy myself on my bm in mass pvp. (more specifically nw) Still I really do love my bm.

Thanks buddy, that really help answered a lot of my questions. Believe it or not, there aren't that many bm's I come across in NW on archosaur, but I suppose that is also a testament to what you said as well, being that they apparently are pretty chitty without the very best gear, reminds me of my wizard.

What i'm taking away is that 800m would go much further on a seeker or a barb given the native genie skills and buffs as you pointed out. I think I'll gear up the bm for interval so that I can actually farm PVE for a change, then account stash everything to a seeker or barb.