Best Class w/o Cash shop

any one of them. you can spend as little (time/cash) or as much as you want. try them all and see what you like

Walpurga - Dreamweaver wrote: »

vit barb

get into any squad, make money by not dying in NW, not have to do **** except run around gather mobs invoke roar stomp sundergeddon and let the DDs wipe them. This is the most work you will ever need to do in regular pve

Go into semi afk macro mode on bosses with devour+frighten+surf+random fillers combo

Best part: function just fine with nirvy T2 +4 with flawless citrines and +4 demon slaughter belt + swindler's necklace

every other class needs serious refines/gearing to be good.

I disagree. Clerics, barbs, seekers, and archers are all easy to get away with low refines. Archers all you really need to refine is the weapon especially in NW when you kill most people before they get to you. A low refined barb is mage food, simple as that, hell I kill low refined barbs on my sin, easily.

DionDagger - Dreamweaver wrote: »

A low refined barb is mage food, simple as that, hell I kill low refined barbs on my sin, easily.

f:hehe

must have been really weak barbs, my vit barb is pushing 25k hp 30k pdef and 6k mag def with no more than +5 on all my gear fully buffed with just r8r gear and oht mag rings. that is easy to obtain with a casual player. mages are a hassle if i am ganged up on, dph sins can be a problem, aps sins usually are not. if i get in a tight spot.. pot invoke roar alpha male and giggle as they scream

If you are going to NW (pvp event, main source of coins, 20:00 server time which is quite late if you are in europe (1-3am)) I agree with Walpurga, a vit kitty that plays the role of a punching bag plus dig crystals will make quite a bit of money.

On the other hand, for pure pve (well, no NW) I'd say go with cleric. Everyone needs one and you can get away with lesser gear as most of the times you are not vital but mostly a pot saver. one of the most used skills, BB, hardly depends on your gear assuming that you can survive so you can stat a bit of vit to get more defenses.

WannaBM - Archosaur wrote: »

if you really want to reach the top without CS Id say make a lvl 5 archer because they can fly to archosaur to become catshop ASAP

well, if you don't plan to wc you should make a cleric cause they can fly straight to archo. hell, even if you plan to wc you should make a cleric, fly to archo and get the levels from combining dragon orbs, you'll be 5 by the time you make your first 5*sb:chuckle

Yeah just clerics are better for catshops as they require no pots to fly

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »

this ^
however, if you lvl to 5 you can just put a few mag points XD

Players who aren't new to the game just use a Psychic to summon their about-to-become catshop alts! f:laugh

It's all depend on what you're playing

Cleric, Mystic are expansive. Cleric tend to die a lot of their own heal if not careful and Mystic burn their mana fast

Easier time for Caster are Psychic and Wizard due to how hard they can hit, but may also lure aggro quite easy too. While Psy spells mainly affect Soulforce.

Melee toon are normally Seeker, they can take care of their live during mid and late game, thank to their Attack and Defend lvl control.

BM maybe fun and great aoe but those skills trees are what make them expansive late game, but it turn out well late game

Archer range fighter always a good choice and thank to their crit late game, but need to manage their own damage too and mana when using Barrage

Sin, early game is bad due to how squashy you are, easier in mid lvl, but turn out to be the best money maker in PVE and PVP thank to their drop debuff on other player and they can peep into other people bag too, plus their crit and fast attack rate make them an easy solo class in PVE but still need to keep their HP safe from explosive mobs

Barb one of the best tank or the best one to survive a long run in high lvl, but can be expansive on how high the repair cost he has to go through. People hate him in mass PVP due to that he need at least 3 to 5 people to kill a charm barb

Hey all
as a new player i was wondering about cleric and mystic...

I do not have tons of money to spend on gears, but i want to be able to do well in pve and at least get some coin in nw. which of these 2 classes would do better on a budget and which gears would be suggested?

And as opposed to Arthursoul - Archosaur is saying, cleric is not expansive, expensive or explosive. It is one of the cheapest classes to play.