Best class for solo/beginner?

neverillusions · June 2013

What would be the best starting class if i want to solo?

SylenThunder - Twilight Temple · June 2013

Peruse the forums and find the hundreds of other threads asking this very same question and discern the answer from their responses.

I mean seriously... Is there any reason to start a thread on a topic that is discussed over and over, and was even posted and discussed within the past week?

Get a grip and learn to look before you post.

Crazybladema - Harshlands · June 2013

The assassin class.

phoenixwar · June 2013

Venomancer, cheap to play and cheap to manage, can solo things at low level that most others can't (although in all honestly chances say you'll be level70 in a week or 2 with any character if you just play them solely.) Near the higher levels though I feel like the sin can solo way more stuff o.O

DionDagger - Dreamweaver · June 2013

Crazybladema - Harshlands wrote: »

The assassin class.

This guy has obviously never played a sin.

neverillusions · June 2013

So assassin or no?

LunarCainEX - Dreamweaver · June 2013

Psychic...the most easiest class to play since all you do is spam 2 basic spells

Crazybladema - Harshlands · June 2013

DionDagger - Dreamweaver wrote: »

This guy has obviously never played a sin.

I did, it was easy as pie. Psys pretty easy at low levels too.

Mayfly - Dreamweaver · June 2013

Assassin is very good at very high levels with very good gear; as a starter character, you'll get frustrated from how often you die.

Salari - Raging Tide · June 2013

I have seen a lot of post about sins not fairing to well during low to mid levels on questing ect. TBH I never had that problem. Play smart and it wont matter what char you choose. They all have their ups and downs.

Walpurga - Dreamweaver · June 2013

wtf are you saying lol

My sin never dies in normal questing/pve; you'll be fine with Dreamchaser(actually you will destroy PVE at that level) as long as you aren't stupid enough to add vit to a sin

Another good idea would be vit barb. It will take thirty hits to kill a mob, but a vit barb at lower levels will basically never die in questing just because it has so much HP.

Psys are a horrible idea just because LOL WHERE DID MY MANA POTS GO

Veno can quest/grind cost free, not even MP pots. Perfect for a beginner.

Sin will be hard from 20-40 but with today's starter gear and the free HP/MP charms you'll do just fine if you know how to abuse tackling slash on mobs, even caster ones. As long as you keep up your DPS-->that means your weapon and your paint heals

BM questing for me consists of phys marrow-->leap into mob-->autoattack, shadowless kick if the mob starts channeling. Easy enough and if you have a sin friend giving BP your HP will never budge

Rubybeard - Archosaur · June 2013

be a paladin of course

oh wait wrong game f:hush

Mayfly - Dreamweaver · June 2013

Sure, with Dreamchaser or Elder's Blessing gear you're OP for the level as a sin, but that goes for any class with those gears, and unlike Elder's Blessing (which I don't think is currently enabled), not every new character can get Dreamchaser gear.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands · June 2013

DionDagger - Dreamweaver wrote: »

This guy has obviously never played a sin.

On HL, 95% of people are sins so yea... not everyone can be good.

LunarCainEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Psychic...the most easiest class to play since all you do is spam 2 basic spells

He want a class to solo stuff, psy are awesome, but probably one of the last class I would pick to solo stuff.

Class that can solo stuff are veno, mystic, bm and sin.

Bm are good, but you need decent gears to solo stuff and you need to always ask sins's bp, without bp Bm will have a hard time to solo.

Sin are good too, but they need decent gears.

Veno take a bit more time to solo cause often they use their pets as tank which take longer, but you don't need OP gears to solo stuff.

Mystic can solo more fast than a veno, but need decent gears.

In any case you should pick a class that you enjoy to play. If you roll a sin and hate play it then you might not have fun. There's other way to make money than farming, like merch.

Good luck.

Rubybeard - Archosaur · June 2013

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

On HL, 95% of people are sins so yea... not everyone can be good.

He want a class to solo stuff, psy are awesome, but probably one of the last class I would pick to solo stuff.

Class that can solo stuff are veno, mystic, bm and sin.

Bm are good, but you need decent gears to solo stuff and you need to always ask sins's bp, without bp Bm will have a hard time to solo.

Sin are good too, but they need decent gears.

Veno take a bit more time to solo cause often they use their pets as tank which take longer, but you don't need OP gears to solo stuff.

Mystic can solo more fast than a veno, but need decent gears.

In any case you should pick a class that you enjoy to play. If you roll a sin and hate play it then you might not have fun. There's other way to make money than farming, like merch.

Good luck.

eh im loling at this lolllllll you def never roll a bm dont you? we have this thing called sutra and nope we dont need bp to solo grind even to solo mini bosses b:laughb:laugh

Reliea - Sanctuary · June 2013

The easiest and most affordable to make your first/solo char is a Veno. Up to 80 you'll be able to solo all your bhs/fbs/minibosses easypeasy. Possibly beyond, but it becomes such a production that the effort to solo bh69-89 at level isn't worth the reward, so finding a squad is much better for those. It won't be super speedy, but it is fairly safe. You won't have to buy anything except a cheap tome to help keep the pets fed, and you can save up coins in no time because you don't need great gear to do well.

Sin would be the next easiest, but since they tend to be squishy under level 80 they either need fairly decent gear (which most of the time they never have, in my experience), or a partner. So I would recommend duel leveling sin with pretty much any other class, especially if you want sin to end up your main, so you can level faster with less effort into gear until you reach 80.

Chuck_smith - Sanctuary · June 2013

VIT on a sin (beginner levels really?) isn't bad.

Beginner levels are so easy even more with the more recent gears today, you shouldn't even be asking what class is good for a beginner if you get dreamchaser gear. Otherwise, venoes and mystics are the easiest and cheapest in PVE, which makes you gain coin easier than all of the classes.

Jaabg - Sanctuary · June 2013

I'll tell you a secret, there is a hidden class you can unlock in this game, it's the ninja class. Awesome skills in that class, i use that for everything. After a long time i learnt this skill called "steal" you can steal other people's skill and use them as your own for a limited time. Awesome skill.

Salari - Raging Tide · June 2013

Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »

I'll tell you a secret, there is a hidden class you can unlock in this game, it's the ninja class. Awesome skills in that class, i use that for everything. After a long time i learnt this skill called "steal" you can steal other people's skill and use them as your own for a limited time. Awesome skill.

there was a rumor at one time that if you got all classes to 105 there was an ultimate facerolling toon you could get b:laugh

Kittysama - Raging Tide_1432680721 · June 2013

Salari - Raging Tide wrote: »

there was a rumor at one time that if you got all classes to 105 there was an ultimate facerolling toon you could get b:laugh

Oh, you mean death knight? *checks the net address* Oops, Kitty also mistook the game to something else.

But to be serious...from basic soloing venomancer is probably best choice at low levels. If you want to solo FC for example, Kitty would say that BM ish the way to go. At least Kitty managed to solo FC earliest on BM, at 90. At 100 well APS-geared sin is ubersoloer. But to APS-gear a sin well costs honey, coins and half the kingdom. So you'd probably consider something cheaper to farm the coins.
And like already many have said, caster-veno is pretty ultimate solofarming character. Even soloing most of FC is possible on that pretty early(probably at 90-92), though it takes much time as it requires Glacial Walker(or herc if veno ish rich) to tank and DD the bosses. Dreadindra(a.k.a. Bishop boss) is too hard for veno to solo that early 'cause veno probably hasn't enough dmg output to kill Frost Bishops while healing pet at the same time. And mob groups take long time to clear, as well as killing the bosses since pets aren't as big DDs as BMs and sins.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands · June 2013

Rubybeard - Archosaur wrote: »

eh im loling at this lolllllll you def never roll a bm dont you? we have this thing called sutra and nope we dont need bp to solo grind even to solo mini bosses b:laughb:laugh

OP didn't asked the best class to grind, but to solo, which I might be wrong, but sound to me like the OP want a class that he be able to solo farm instances. I would love to see a Bm with no bp and **** gears solo TT (and not a BM 100 soloing TT1-1). As on my server Bm soloing stuff are 5 aps, which require a minimum of gear to get 5 aps.

Every class on this game can solo grind and solo mini boss with charm and pots.

Sidwinder - Heavens Tear · June 2013

Seeker is pretty easy and can solo pretty well. You just have to read the seeker forum and stat it the way you want. lvling seeker is pretty easy to once you get high enough you can solo Phoenix Valley again if you stat properly.

Sylvae - Sanctuary · June 2013

The best possible class to solo at earliest point, with the least amount of starting capital, is Barb.

Most people are thinking generic barb, which would be non-optimal for soloing. But if you do a claw/axe barb, it's the best you can get. Their health buff and accuracy buff helps out alot, as even BMs can sometimes have 90% or less hit chance on some of the bosses. Lack of mastery is removed by the wood dmg buff and easy access to that other one.

The claw part will play very similar to a BM, but your health will be able to be higher. This will let you have lower refine values and still take on the same difficulty of boss. The luring portion will also be easier, with higher passive run speed and damage reduction. The BM will have the RotP stun, but that will be the main difference now that CC is gone. And that doesn't do anything on bosses anyways. Chi generation as the barb will also be better, and getting groups for later content should be easy as well.

Walpurga - Dreamweaver · June 2013

Sylvae - Sanctuary wrote: »

The best possible class to solo at earliest point, with the least amount of starting capital, is Barb.

Most people are thinking generic barb, which would be non-optimal for soloing. But if you do a claw/axe barb, it's the best you can get. Their health buff and accuracy buff helps out alot, as even BMs can sometimes have 90% or less hit chance on some of the bosses. Lack of mastery is removed by the wood dmg buff and easy access to that other one.

The claw part will play very similar to a BM, but your health will be able to be higher. This will let you have lower refine values and still take on the same difficulty of boss. The luring portion will also be easier, with higher passive run speed and damage reduction. The BM will have the RotP stun, but that will be the main difference now that CC is gone. And that doesn't do anything on bosses anyways. Chi generation as the barb will also be better, and getting groups for later content should be easy as well.

APS barb is not something to start with, it's something to end with; an APS barb at lower gear levels will simply not function the way a barb should. Sure, 10K HP is enough to pull/tank FC but once you hit 100 you really can't be claw anymore until the time when you've got G16/G15/tt99 +7'd with a separate full G16 set for pulling.

Slivaf - Dreamweaver · June 2013

Walpurga - Dreamweaver wrote: »

APS barb is not something to start with, it's something to end with; an APS barb at lower gear levels will simply not function the way a barb should. Sure, 10K HP is enough to pull/tank FC but once you hit 100 you really can't be claw anymore until the time when you've got G16/G15/tt99 +7'd with a separate full G16 set for pulling.

It really depends on the player behind the barb, I have done it with g15/g12 all +5 (tanked + pulled a full warsong on my barb at 12.5kish hp) sure I wasn't able to pull as much as a much better geared barb, but I was still able to do it, all while being a 'claw' barb. (have a sage barb in the waiting)

I do agree that the gear seriously helps if you are an 'aps' barb, but you don't have to have insane gears to pull as well as others, just be smart about what skills you use. (I don't even use apo to pull, and still pull just fine)

EDIT: I think sins are one of the best classes to solo with, assuming you can properly gear them in the end/play them with half a brain. .. [I do hate using this term, but meh.] (do use rib strike/don't take aggro if you know you can't handle it... things like that. xD)

Sizzer - Raging Tide · June 2013

neverillusions wrote: »

What would be the best starting class if i want to solo?

BMs are better then Sin ijs they're tank/DDs & if u have lil bit patience, you also solo anything with bp. Plus BMs have a wide-range of weapons they can use, With the implementation of new morai skills BMs are good in PvP as well as PvE wise. Sin's are little squishy compared to a BM due to L.A class. I guess choose BM they can easily fit themselves in any & every kinda of squads in any dungeon of PWI. b:pleased

Btw i think Beginner's Guide is the correct section for such topics.

Slivaf - Dreamweaver · June 2013

Sizzer - Raging Tide wrote: »

BMs are better then Sin ijs they're tank/DDs & if u have lil bit patience, you also solo anything with bp. Plus BMs have a wide-range of weapons they can use, With the implementation of new morai skills BMs are good in PvP as well as PvE wise. Sin's are little squishy compared to a BM due to L.A class. I guess choose BM they can easily fit themselves in any & every kinda of squads in any dungeon of PWI. b:pleased

Btw i think Beginner's Guide is the correct section for such topics.

Meh you can have your opinion, but imho bm's aren't that great for pvp, they look great on paper, and if they have the gear/right amount of preparation, and are played real well then sure bms really are great for pvp, even more so in pve.

I quite frankly can not recommend the bm class for mass pvp you WILL get owned left and right earlyish end game. PvE on the other hand... bm's truly are awesome when played right, but no amount of 'skill' will save you in mass pvp, bm's rely heavily on gear/an insane amount of extra preparation to do ANYTHING in mass pvp. (The other "melee" classes don't really have that 'extra' requirement, even in earlysih end game gear each really outshine the bm class, even sins imho have a much easier chance to kill/attack back than any bm, that is not even mentioning how much chi a bm needs to be even slightly effective in pvp, whether it be mass, or 1 vs 1.)... Though that is a discussion for another topic/place. Like this one over here.

Joshcja - Sanctuary · June 2013

On the note of claw/axe barb leveling:

When I made mine it was str/dex/vit (mainly from + stats on gear) from level 1
by level 90 in +3 gear it had 14.something k hp
by 100 in +7 gear it was sitting on 20k
never had any issues

On the note of veno leveling:

Gettign a herc is pretty much required here

On the note of bm leveling:

easiest class to get to 100 on, hardest class to pimp out once your there

On the note of sin leveling:

+50 hp per second level 1 apoth pots carry you to BP and then the game is easy mode

on the note of archer leveling:

with jones this is just a big excercise in tab>auto you'll need help on bosses but its cheap as ****.

On the note of mage classes in general:

Not good 1st chars if only because of the skill costs at 89-100. While solo farming is mostly dead their lack of solo ability kinda hurts.

Exception: Clerics will get into anything ever no matter how bad you suck because people are derpaderp

Sizzer - Raging Tide · June 2013

In my server i have seen,played with really good BMs, they're good in terms of both PvP and PvE. I won't name them since naming and shaming is considered a violation. But as far as this topic is concerned if i was a newbie i would have choosed a BM easy to lvl-up, easy to get in squads for any dungeon in PWI, umm in terms of PvP they're good won't say BEST, but they're really very good. It also depends on player's gameplay you can be a noob with any class & you can be PRO with any class. b:chuckle

Slivaf - Dreamweaver · June 2013

Sizzer - Raging Tide wrote: »

In my server i have seen,played with really good BMs, they're good in terms of both PvP and PvE. I won't name them since naming and shaming is considered a violation. But as far as this topic is concerned if i was a newbie i would have choosed a BM easy to lvl-up, easy to get in squads for any dungeon in PWI, umm in terms of PvP they're good won't say BEST, but they're really very good. It also depends on player's gameplay you can be a noob with any class & you can be PRO with any class. b:chuckle

That I do not disagree with one bit.

Bm's can be really awesome when played right, especially in pve... but for pvp... they aren't, and you WILL need to go extra lengths to prepare your bm to 'survive' even a little in mass pvp, (the original built in skills will NOT allow you to survive that well) not to mention neither marrows is that great of an idea in mass pvp, that or you WILL need insanely awesome gear for it to survive a little bit.

They are great solo machines FOR pve only, but for pvp... if in even rather decent gear (non aps-gear even) you will die A LOT, especially when your alone.

On that note perhaps it is well geared claw barbs (if played right) that are the best 'soloers' for both pve, and pvp. Albeit they won't be able to do what others can.. as well, but they will be able to survive well (assuming you know what your doing) and even kill well depending on their gears/the situation.

Deadalus - Harshlands · June 2013

For solo purposes, Assassin is a bad class to begin with except for high APS gear and high level.
But for a beginner (except instand cashing) thats a out of the question kinda thing.

The best way to go here is a Venomancer or the Mystic, which is basicly the same (With the Pets).
Venomancer is the old fashion way to solo stuff like lower TT to obtain gear for yourself in a reasonable time but not for making money fast but its easy enough.
Mystic basicly the same but you can heal yourself, but you only have 3 Pets.

Other classes cant solo TT at their level without heavy Cash loss in terms of Pots and Charms.
And no, we dont talk about full +10/12 gear here, i mean average +0/3 gear.

Solo questing? Every class can do that, for the most part.
Bosses or FB's require a group or atleast a healer, when you play a BM,Barb,Sin or any other class who can survive the hits of the boss long enough.

Thats all.

Best class for solo/beginner?

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