What Pwi Has Ruined
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GlenRoss - Archosaur wrote: »Phoenix Valley = once-a-day with everyone near the same level
canard defeated
If you go in a group of 6, should go faster than 1 run at lower levels. Seeker+bm did 3 runs a day from 50~80. I am sure 1~4 extra players will speed that up. Plus if you remain in instance, and others open for you, you can still do more runs.
It's just like goons, when people didn't know about it they thought fcc was the best option. People just don't see how fcc+nix valley = better option or just nix valley = better than fcc, due to time issues for some people.
Most people are scared to try it though simply because it is a "new" instance. Just like how few people do AEU for exp.
Thank you for using the word canard, i had to look it up, learnt something new b:victory.0 -
So I am in this game. Its getting monthly updates. I don't have to do fetch and carry quests they kind of just 'happen'. I'm enjoying my personal story. I'm getting XP serious for doing crafting, doing quests that kind of just crop up as they happen, just going out in the world and exploring. Hey I don't have to pay for charms to heal as much anymore. What is that grinding for coin. Just to fashion my alts with hamster wheel gear. Nah we just do that through crafting or dungeons.
Hey I am switching guilds and having fun with my friends and fighting a 2 week long battle of 'territory wars' that just gets reset every 2 week, but there were recent improvements so my 'territory wars' that made it so I could level up. Oh the game always gets updated. Perfect World (Cryptic Studios) are so punctual.
Maybe this is why Skai doesn't really play and upload as much anymore. Props to Skai for sticking with PWI for so long. It is such a great game. b:laugh
Could be anywhere but: Dungeon & Dragons Neverwinter
Time won't wake/make you wiser, but it will definitely wound you.
b i t . l y /
I was a man of ideas and action, but at the same time a gentleman. -- S a Z T u R
Subtly is never my strong point, but I like to find the gaps in walls and the cracks in bricks.
Are you kind of seeing what I'm saying. b:bye0 -
Kinjeto - Raging Tide wrote: »
So I am in this game. Its getting monthly updates. I don't have to do fetch and carry quests they kind of just 'happen'. I'm enjoying my personal story. I'm getting XP serious for doing crafting, doing quests that kind of just crop up as they happen, just going out in the world and exploring. Hey I don't have to pay for charms to heal as much anymore. What is that grinding for coin. Just to fashion my alts with hamster wheel gear. Nah we just do that through crafting or dungeons.
Hey I am switching guilds and having fun with my friends and fighting a 2 week long battle of 'territory wars' that just gets reset every 2 week, but there were recent improvements so my 'territory wars' that made it so I could level up. Oh the game always gets updated. Perfect World (Cryptic Studios) are so punctual.
Maybe this is why Skai doesn't really play and upload as much anymore. Props to Skai for sticking with PWI for so long. It is such a great game. b:laugh
Could be anywhere but: Dungeon & Dragons Neverwinter
Its another mmo owned by PWE, maintained by PWE, and will probably have sales by PWE, and you admit to playing it? b:laugh
Enjoy playing it for a year or two, then telling people about how the game is dead. b:victory0 -
Evidence says otherwise. The week when hypers didn't work in FC saw a tremendous upswing in people doing quests and other activities.
Not that they won't seek PV or other activities. Plevelers just won't spend all day in one room and sellers won't either.
I wouldn't know since I didn't roam in the map; but, the head market took years to develop so I wouldn't expect a development of seeker grind within a week.HeavenxDoom - Lost City wrote: »forcing ppl to have fun
what's wrong with you....you only purge once #yopo0 -
WarpSpider_ - Sanctuary wrote: »Its another mmo owned by PWE, maintained by PWE, and will probably have sales by PWE, and you admit to playing it? b:laugh
Enjoy playing it for a year or two, then telling people about how the game is dead. b:victory
Owned by PW? Published... Yes... Owned... No...
The game was first publicly displayed at the Electronic Entertainment Expo 2011 (E3), where many details about the game were revealed.[18] Due to Cryptic's acquistition by Perfect World Entertainment, Neverwinter was delayed to 2012.[19] Perfect World also bought the rights to publish the game from Atari, happening in sync with the conclusion of Atari's lawsuit with Wizards of the Coast on the Dungeons & Dragons license.[20] On October 5, 2011, Perfect World announced that Neverwinter had shifted from the co-operative multiplayer game that was announced the previous year into a free-to-play MMORPG. This further delayed the game to late 2012.[1] Perfect World would later again delay Neverwinter into early 2013 to better polish the game.[21]
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It is a joint arrangement. They (Cryptic Studios) are developing it.
Also I have a friend who plays RaiderZ and he is very F2P and he hasn't spent anything. Its like anything from PWCN hasn't really been tested against their target audience and marketed well. It is like PWCN is even trying to use their old products to keep the publishing house afloat. Surely this couldn't be the case. b:laugh
I would of thought all good publishers would market test their products before they release them into a new cultural environment. That is a very dangerous thing to do, That is a very dangerous thing to do even in the mid 2000s. b:laugh
Time won't wake/make you wiser, but it will definitely wound you.
b i t . l y /
I was a man of ideas and action, but at the same time a gentleman. -- S a Z T u R
Subtly is never my strong point, but I like to find the gaps in walls and the cracks in bricks.
Are you kind of seeing what I'm saying. b:bye0 -
Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »If you go in a group of 6, should go faster than 1 run at lower levels. Seeker+bm did 3 runs a day from 50~80. I am sure 1~4 extra players will speed that up. Plus if you remain in instance, and others open for you, you can still do more runs.
It's just like goons, when people didn't know about it they thought fcc was the best option. People just don't see how fcc+nix valley = better option or just nix valley = better than fcc, due to time issues for some people.
Most people are scared to try it though simply because it is a "new" instance. Just like how few people do AEU for exp.
Thank you for using the word canard, i had to look it up, learnt something new b:victory.
You make some good points but PV is not in the same category as FC, let alone goons.
Goons yielded orders of magnitude more exp than you can get in PV. You could go back as many times as you had hypers. I know of an instance where someone brought in a level 1 friend and got him up to level 50 on five hypers.
Yes, some people can sprint through PV and make it profitable but they spend less than an hour in there and the gains are somewhat modest.
You can't bring your level 30 girlfriend into PV100 and make her supergirl overnight. You can't camp there, selling PV all day. You can't camp in PV, buying all day.
It's a very limited comparison. The only strong commonality is accelerated exp.
b:chuckle You're welcome for "canard".[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
GlenRoss - Archosaur wrote: »Goons yielded orders of magnitude more exp than you can get in PV. You could go back as many times as you had hypers. I know of an instance where someone brought in a level 1 friend and got him up to level 50 on five hypers.
that sounds quite low; my cleric went from 1 to 29 just from following the sin (when he could) boss and mobs; then 3x Heads+ 1x rest bosses were enough to hit 56 o:you only purge once #yopo0 -
I agree with GlenRoss, PV is nothing like FCC. FCC is unlimited, and PV doesn't give as much exp by far. Putting a level requirement on FCC, just like to get into Heaven/Hell is the best route to take, and will definitely help the game in the long run. I barely touched FCC to get to my level, mostly after I hit level 90+ and I feel there is nothing wrong with that at that level. I'm a damn good barb for it, and know how to play my class.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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PWI was ruined long ago, but at least it is still better than the other poopy games out there even for today.
People who can PK, whatever, means absolutely nothing and no accomplishment
People who have venomancer chars with hercs/nix and says that only those pets are viable are laughable.
People who thinks genies are an important factor for PVE is a joke
People who gets gear beyond G13 is on easy mode if they only do PVE
People who only levels in FC are just something to laugh at
People who relies on warding and slaying levels (Lol) are silly
ETC.
PWI had to follow the other MMOs which went downhill and if they wanted to have people progress to endgame faster, they should have just lowered the HP on the bosses or something like that since it is too long instead of getting gear that is too powerful. Yet, the game is still fun, just need to avoid competition as much as possible .Sage barb in progress.0 -
Chuck_smith - Sanctuary wrote: »PWI was ruined long ago, but at least it is still better than the other poopy games out there even for today.
People who can PK, whatever, means absolutely nothing and no accomplishment
People who have venomancer chars with hercs/nix and says that only those pets are viable are laughable.
People who thinks genies are an important factor for PVE is a joke
People who gets gear beyond G13 is on easy mode if they only do PVE
People who only levels in FC are just something to laugh at
People who relies on warding and slaying levels (Lol) are silly
ETC.
PWI had to follow the other MMOs which went downhill and if they wanted to have people progress to endgame faster, they should have just lowered the HP on the bosses or something like that since it is too long instead of getting gear that is too powerful. Yet, the game is still fun, just need to avoid competition as much as possible .
All of this is coming from a level 1 b:embarrass
Seriously, these are things that people have ruined, not PWI. b:shutup[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Wickedbrew - Raging Tide wrote: »To some degree I agree with you, though I havent yet installed the game. It does seem on the surface that PWI is milking whatever they can out of the playerbase, and sales have been extended longer now than they have in the past.
I still enjoy the game somewhat, not because of the game (its more broken than a crystal shop open to a bull with mad cow disease hyped up on LSD ), but the people I have befriended. Once the game you mentioned comes out, or I get a beta invite to it and can try it out, PW may become a distant memory. If it too is a failed game, then PW will more than likely still fade away as being a once fun game that became nothing more than the biggest greedfest in MMO history thus far. Until then I will trudged along playing less and less.
I once did love PWI, i actually used to think as it one of the best Free to play MMOs it did have potential. But went down hill. I currently think they game is broken. The new content they release is the same ol same ol. Throw in some dungeons that are out played within weeks. If you look at neverwinter the new game released under PWI it actually has some elements int he game that will never get boring. Once you have R9 whats there left to do? PVP and TW. And the new war thing they have i forget what its called. NOT much play.0 -
I would also like everyone to check out some reviews done by previous employees of PWI and tell me what you think. http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Perfect-World-Entertainment-Reviews-E285012.htm
on a side note there are good and bad reviews, but the bad reviews are the ones to look at.0 -
GlenRoss - Archosaur wrote: »Goons yielded orders of magnitude more exp than you can get in PV. You could go back as many times as you had hypers.
It's a very limited comparison. The only strong commonality is accelerated exp.
b:chuckle You're welcome for "canard".
True, but aren't we limited to 10 hypers per day, 20 activations? Provided nothing messes up.
Goons is far more exp than anything else in the game so far. I was pointing out, PV is a good substitute/compliment to fcc for some people.
If they remove the timer from PV, people will start buying and selling PV b:chuckle. Especially those trying to hit 105 b:laugh.
I just wish people used words that you don't hear often generally, it makes reading someones post quite fun.0 -
Ganden - Sanctuary wrote: »I would also like everyone to check out some reviews done by previous employees of PWI and tell me what you think. http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Perfect-World-Entertainment-Reviews-E285012.htm
on a side note there are good and bad reviews, but the bad reviews are the ones to look at.
Ganden, those reviews are old news. This really relevant to what the OP was trying to get at, in my opinion. Besides that, there are 2 sides to every coin, and some of those employees are probably just disgruntled and looking to ruin the company's reputation. Classic.Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »True, but aren't we limited to 10 hypers per day, 20 activations? Provided nothing messes up.
Goons is far more exp than anything else in the game so far. I was pointing out, PV is a good substitute/compliment to fcc for some people.
If they remove the timer from PV, people will start buying and selling PV b:chuckle. Especially those trying to hit 105 b:laugh.
I just wish people used words that you don't hear often generally, it makes reading someones post quite fun.
5 hypers per day, assuming you use the x12 setting. That also means 10 activations.
I agree that PV should stay the same if FCC is changed. PV is the perfect balance between allowing power leveling and making people work for their levels. I like doing PV, even if it's just to solo. b:cute[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Idk about you but i believe those reviews.0
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i loved the game when there was only 3 races
perfect balance
no classes with attack lv
i am sorry but i find the it funy when a psy is complaining about the state of the game when his class is part of the problem.0 -
HeavenxDoom - Lost City wrote: »i loved the game when there was only 3 races
perfect balance
no classes with attack lv
i am sorry but i find the it funy when a psy is complaining about the state of the game when his class is part of the problem.
Its more than just the races you know....
If the three original races were kept but everything else was thrown in, we'd still have R9.3/NV3's attack/defense levels, pack gems and gear, and high-APS would still be a thing (paying for potions/charm instead of using BP, or duoing with a Cleric).
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Crixxix - Raging Tide wrote: »All of this is coming from a level 1 b:embarrass
Seriously, these are things that people have ruined, not PWI. b:shutup
So...?
DQ rate got nerfed (twice), which is from PWI
FC was turned from a farming instance into an easy exp instance
Nirvana was made for people to be biased with each other
NW was made to kill off nirvana
Packs were implemented instead of updating apothecary
R9 was implemented
Can go on with this... b:shutupSage barb in progress.0 -
Chuck_smith - Sanctuary wrote: »So...?
DQ rate got nerfed (twice), which is from PWI
FC was turned from a farming instance into an easy exp instance
Nirvana was made for people to be biased with each other
NW was made to kill off nirvana
Packs were implemented instead of updating apothecary
R9 was implemented
Can go on with this... b:shutup
Frost has been the easiest exp instance imo since before hypers.
I know nothing of Nirvana even after 5 years. b:surrender
As I see it, NW is a place where you don't need to worry about dropping anything during pvp and allowing people to play a game like capture the flag at the same time. Plus awards for competition, like real life, slightly.
Are you saying a company that gives free to play access is not allowed to earn cash from those that feel packs and R9 are OP and/or necessary?
R9 isn't necessary to win, it's the skill~.0
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