What Pwi Has Ruined

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  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Phoenix Valley = once-a-day with everyone near the same level

    canard defeated

    If you go in a group of 6, should go faster than 1 run at lower levels. Seeker+bm did 3 runs a day from 50~80. I am sure 1~4 extra players will speed that up. Plus if you remain in instance, and others open for you, you can still do more runs.

    It's just like goons, when people didn't know about it they thought fcc was the best option. People just don't see how fcc+nix valley = better option or just nix valley = better than fcc, due to time issues for some people.

    Most people are scared to try it though simply because it is a "new" instance. Just like how few people do AEU for exp.

    Thank you for using the word canard, i had to look it up, learnt something new b:victory.
  • Kinjeto - Raging Tide
    Kinjeto - Raging Tide Posts: 564 Arc User
    edited June 2013

    So I am in this game. Its getting monthly updates. I don't have to do fetch and carry quests they kind of just 'happen'. I'm enjoying my personal story. I'm getting XP serious for doing crafting, doing quests that kind of just crop up as they happen, just going out in the world and exploring. Hey I don't have to pay for charms to heal as much anymore. What is that grinding for coin. Just to fashion my alts with hamster wheel gear. Nah we just do that through crafting or dungeons.

    Hey I am switching guilds and having fun with my friends and fighting a 2 week long battle of 'territory wars' that just gets reset every 2 week, but there were recent improvements so my 'territory wars' that made it so I could level up. Oh the game always gets updated. Perfect World (Cryptic Studios) are so punctual.

    Maybe this is why Skai doesn't really play and upload as much anymore. Props to Skai for sticking with PWI for so long. It is such a great game. b:laugh

    Could be anywhere but: Dungeon & Dragons Neverwinter

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  • WarpSpider_ - Sanctuary
    WarpSpider_ - Sanctuary Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited June 2013

    So I am in this game. Its getting monthly updates. I don't have to do fetch and carry quests they kind of just 'happen'. I'm enjoying my personal story. I'm getting XP serious for doing crafting, doing quests that kind of just crop up as they happen, just going out in the world and exploring. Hey I don't have to pay for charms to heal as much anymore. What is that grinding for coin. Just to fashion my alts with hamster wheel gear. Nah we just do that through crafting or dungeons.

    Hey I am switching guilds and having fun with my friends and fighting a 2 week long battle of 'territory wars' that just gets reset every 2 week, but there were recent improvements so my 'territory wars' that made it so I could level up. Oh the game always gets updated. Perfect World (Cryptic Studios) are so punctual.

    Maybe this is why Skai doesn't really play and upload as much anymore. Props to Skai for sticking with PWI for so long. It is such a great game. b:laugh

    Could be anywhere but: Dungeon & Dragons Neverwinter



    Its another mmo owned by PWE, maintained by PWE, and will probably have sales by PWE, and you admit to playing it? b:laugh

    Enjoy playing it for a year or two, then telling people about how the game is dead. b:victory
  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Evidence says otherwise. The week when hypers didn't work in FC saw a tremendous upswing in people doing quests and other activities.

    Not that they won't seek PV or other activities. Plevelers just won't spend all day in one room and sellers won't either.

    I wouldn't know since I didn't roam in the map; but, the head market took years to develop so I wouldn't expect a development of seeker grind within a week.
    forcing ppl to have fun

    what's wrong with you....
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  • Kinjeto - Raging Tide
    Kinjeto - Raging Tide Posts: 564 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Its another mmo owned by PWE, maintained by PWE, and will probably have sales by PWE, and you admit to playing it? b:laugh

    Enjoy playing it for a year or two, then telling people about how the game is dead. b:victory

    Owned by PW? Published... Yes... Owned... No...

    The game was first publicly displayed at the Electronic Entertainment Expo 2011 (E3), where many details about the game were revealed.[18] Due to Cryptic's acquistition by Perfect World Entertainment, Neverwinter was delayed to 2012.[19] Perfect World also bought the rights to publish the game from Atari, happening in sync with the conclusion of Atari's lawsuit with Wizards of the Coast on the Dungeons & Dragons license.[20] On October 5, 2011, Perfect World announced that Neverwinter had shifted from the co-operative multiplayer game that was announced the previous year into a free-to-play MMORPG. This further delayed the game to late 2012.[1] Perfect World would later again delay Neverwinter into early 2013 to better polish the game.[21]

    Here

    It is a joint arrangement. They (Cryptic Studios) are developing it.

    Also I have a friend who plays RaiderZ and he is very F2P and he hasn't spent anything. Its like anything from PWCN hasn't really been tested against their target audience and marketed well. It is like PWCN is even trying to use their old products to keep the publishing house afloat. Surely this couldn't be the case. b:laugh

    I would of thought all good publishers would market test their products before they release them into a new cultural environment. That is a very dangerous thing to do, That is a very dangerous thing to do even in the mid 2000s. b:laugh
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  • GlenRoss - Archosaur
    GlenRoss - Archosaur Posts: 430 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    If you go in a group of 6, should go faster than 1 run at lower levels. Seeker+bm did 3 runs a day from 50~80. I am sure 1~4 extra players will speed that up. Plus if you remain in instance, and others open for you, you can still do more runs.

    It's just like goons, when people didn't know about it they thought fcc was the best option. People just don't see how fcc+nix valley = better option or just nix valley = better than fcc, due to time issues for some people.

    Most people are scared to try it though simply because it is a "new" instance. Just like how few people do AEU for exp.

    Thank you for using the word canard, i had to look it up, learnt something new b:victory.

    You make some good points but PV is not in the same category as FC, let alone goons.

    Goons yielded orders of magnitude more exp than you can get in PV. You could go back as many times as you had hypers. I know of an instance where someone brought in a level 1 friend and got him up to level 50 on five hypers.

    Yes, some people can sprint through PV and make it profitable but they spend less than an hour in there and the gains are somewhat modest.

    You can't bring your level 30 girlfriend into PV100 and make her supergirl overnight. You can't camp there, selling PV all day. You can't camp in PV, buying all day.

    It's a very limited comparison. The only strong commonality is accelerated exp.

    b:chuckle You're welcome for "canard".
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  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Goons yielded orders of magnitude more exp than you can get in PV. You could go back as many times as you had hypers. I know of an instance where someone brought in a level 1 friend and got him up to level 50 on five hypers.

    that sounds quite low; my cleric went from 1 to 29 just from following the sin (when he could) boss and mobs; then 3x Heads+ 1x rest bosses were enough to hit 56 o:
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  • Crixxix - Raging Tide
    Crixxix - Raging Tide Posts: 848 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I agree with GlenRoss, PV is nothing like FCC. FCC is unlimited, and PV doesn't give as much exp by far. Putting a level requirement on FCC, just like to get into Heaven/Hell is the best route to take, and will definitely help the game in the long run. I barely touched FCC to get to my level, mostly after I hit level 90+ and I feel there is nothing wrong with that at that level. I'm a damn good barb for it, and know how to play my class.
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  • Chuck_smith - Sanctuary
    Chuck_smith - Sanctuary Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    PWI was ruined long ago, but at least it is still better than the other poopy games out there even for today.

    People who can PK, whatever, means absolutely nothing and no accomplishment
    People who have venomancer chars with hercs/nix and says that only those pets are viable are laughable.
    People who thinks genies are an important factor for PVE is a joke
    People who gets gear beyond G13 is on easy mode if they only do PVE
    People who only levels in FC are just something to laugh at
    People who relies on warding and slaying levels (Lol) are silly
    ETC.

    PWI had to follow the other MMOs which went downhill and if they wanted to have people progress to endgame faster, they should have just lowered the HP on the bosses or something like that since it is too long instead of getting gear that is too powerful. Yet, the game is still fun, just need to avoid competition as much as possible :).
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  • Crixxix - Raging Tide
    Crixxix - Raging Tide Posts: 848 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    PWI was ruined long ago, but at least it is still better than the other poopy games out there even for today.

    People who can PK, whatever, means absolutely nothing and no accomplishment
    People who have venomancer chars with hercs/nix and says that only those pets are viable are laughable.
    People who thinks genies are an important factor for PVE is a joke
    People who gets gear beyond G13 is on easy mode if they only do PVE
    People who only levels in FC are just something to laugh at
    People who relies on warding and slaying levels (Lol) are silly
    ETC.

    PWI had to follow the other MMOs which went downhill and if they wanted to have people progress to endgame faster, they should have just lowered the HP on the bosses or something like that since it is too long instead of getting gear that is too powerful. Yet, the game is still fun, just need to avoid competition as much as possible :).

    All of this is coming from a level 1 b:embarrass

    Seriously, these are things that people have ruined, not PWI. b:shutup
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  • Ganden - Sanctuary
    Ganden - Sanctuary Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    To some degree I agree with you, though I havent yet installed the game. It does seem on the surface that PWI is milking whatever they can out of the playerbase, and sales have been extended longer now than they have in the past.

    I still enjoy the game somewhat, not because of the game (its more broken than a crystal shop open to a bull with mad cow disease hyped up on LSD ), but the people I have befriended. Once the game you mentioned comes out, or I get a beta invite to it and can try it out, PW may become a distant memory. If it too is a failed game, then PW will more than likely still fade away as being a once fun game that became nothing more than the biggest greedfest in MMO history thus far. Until then I will trudged along playing less and less.


    I once did love PWI, i actually used to think as it one of the best Free to play MMOs it did have potential. But went down hill. I currently think they game is broken. The new content they release is the same ol same ol. Throw in some dungeons that are out played within weeks. If you look at neverwinter the new game released under PWI it actually has some elements int he game that will never get boring. Once you have R9 whats there left to do? PVP and TW. And the new war thing they have i forget what its called. NOT much play.
  • Ganden - Sanctuary
    Ganden - Sanctuary Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I would also like everyone to check out some reviews done by previous employees of PWI and tell me what you think. http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Perfect-World-Entertainment-Reviews-E285012.htm

    on a side note there are good and bad reviews, but the bad reviews are the ones to look at.
  • Jaabg - Sanctuary
    Jaabg - Sanctuary Posts: 2,256 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Goons yielded orders of magnitude more exp than you can get in PV. You could go back as many times as you had hypers.

    It's a very limited comparison. The only strong commonality is accelerated exp.

    b:chuckle You're welcome for "canard".

    True, but aren't we limited to 10 hypers per day, 20 activations? Provided nothing messes up.

    Goons is far more exp than anything else in the game so far. I was pointing out, PV is a good substitute/compliment to fcc for some people.

    If they remove the timer from PV, people will start buying and selling PV b:chuckle. Especially those trying to hit 105 b:laugh.

    I just wish people used words that you don't hear often generally, it makes reading someones post quite fun.
  • Crixxix - Raging Tide
    Crixxix - Raging Tide Posts: 848 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I would also like everyone to check out some reviews done by previous employees of PWI and tell me what you think. http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Perfect-World-Entertainment-Reviews-E285012.htm

    on a side note there are good and bad reviews, but the bad reviews are the ones to look at.

    Ganden, those reviews are old news. This really relevant to what the OP was trying to get at, in my opinion. Besides that, there are 2 sides to every coin, and some of those employees are probably just disgruntled and looking to ruin the company's reputation. Classic.
    True, but aren't we limited to 10 hypers per day, 20 activations? Provided nothing messes up.

    Goons is far more exp than anything else in the game so far. I was pointing out, PV is a good substitute/compliment to fcc for some people.

    If they remove the timer from PV, people will start buying and selling PV b:chuckle. Especially those trying to hit 105 b:laugh.

    I just wish people used words that you don't hear often generally, it makes reading someones post quite fun.

    5 hypers per day, assuming you use the x12 setting. That also means 10 activations.

    I agree that PV should stay the same if FCC is changed. PV is the perfect balance between allowing power leveling and making people work for their levels. I like doing PV, even if it's just to solo. b:cute
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  • Ganden - Sanctuary
    Ganden - Sanctuary Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Idk about you but i believe those reviews.
  • HeavenxDoom - Lost City
    HeavenxDoom - Lost City Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    i loved the game when there was only 3 races


    perfect balance


    no classes with attack lv


    i am sorry but i find the it funy when a psy is complaining about the state of the game when his class is part of the problem.
  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    i loved the game when there was only 3 races


    perfect balance


    no classes with attack lv


    i am sorry but i find the it funy when a psy is complaining about the state of the game when his class is part of the problem.

    Its more than just the races you know....
    If the three original races were kept but everything else was thrown in, we'd still have R9.3/NV3's attack/defense levels, pack gems and gear, and high-APS would still be a thing (paying for potions/charm instead of using BP, or duoing with a Cleric).

    Not much would change.
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  • Chuck_smith - Sanctuary
    Chuck_smith - Sanctuary Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    All of this is coming from a level 1 b:embarrass

    Seriously, these are things that people have ruined, not PWI. b:shutup

    So...?

    DQ rate got nerfed (twice), which is from PWI
    FC was turned from a farming instance into an easy exp instance
    Nirvana was made for people to be biased with each other
    NW was made to kill off nirvana
    Packs were implemented instead of updating apothecary
    R9 was implemented

    Can go on with this... b:shutup
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  • Jallora - Sanctuary
    Jallora - Sanctuary Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    So...?

    DQ rate got nerfed (twice), which is from PWI
    FC was turned from a farming instance into an easy exp instance
    Nirvana was made for people to be biased with each other
    NW was made to kill off nirvana
    Packs were implemented instead of updating apothecary
    R9 was implemented

    Can go on with this... b:shutup
    PWE nerfed the DQ, to which you can get daily coins from Jolly Jones for near nothing to little work.

    Frost has been the easiest exp instance imo since before hypers.

    I know nothing of Nirvana even after 5 years. b:surrender

    As I see it, NW is a place where you don't need to worry about dropping anything during pvp and allowing people to play a game like capture the flag at the same time. Plus awards for competition, like real life, slightly.

    Are you saying a company that gives free to play access is not allowed to earn cash from those that feel packs and R9 are OP and/or necessary?

    R9 isn't necessary to win, it's the skill~.