Is this game still broken?
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RyuTiger - Raging Tide wrote: »Let me make this easy for all of you:
TT- drop is very very low and from all 6 people what chance you have to take gold? Maybe after 20 runs..
Drop rate has been the same for years now
BH- all about luck
How is this broken?
FC- no one buy's anymore heads this day's
How is this broken? Besides the point that it's server related and time related, one time people buy it in 1 tele, another time no one buys at all
Farm DQ- are you kidding?
How is this broken? Also differs per person if they do or not
Farm herbs - who the hell buy that? Even if you sell it take hours to farm and cost very very low
How is this broken? Read comment above
FWS- no one buy's mold or craft service anymore not to say weapons T3 cost 50 mil less then you spend to make ....
How is this broken? This is probably also server related, some people do still buy the service.
NW- the prices for raps and canny's go so low that it is not worth the trouble, not to say only idiots spend 5 mil on HP charms lol
How is this broken? NW is about the most fun in PvP a lot of people (will ever) have.
Put real money in game --R9 in 10 minutes lol
How is this broken? no cashers = no servers, deal with that fact
That is what the game is about......There are more but i am to lazy now.
Responses in cyan.
You're not making any valid points, just personal opinions on matters. Non of these things are anywhere near something that would define a game to be broken.
The thing that is broken in this game is that there is no "end-game" PvE content. When hitting end-game gear, nothing (besides faction trials) is a challenge anymore. That is the broken part. Gear in relation to PvE.0 -
_dblazen_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »Responses in cyan.
You're not making any valid points, just personal opinions on matters. Non of these things are anywhere near something that would define a game to be broken.
The thing that is broken in this game is that there is no "end-game" PvE content. When hitting end-game gear, nothing (besides faction trials) is a challenge anymore. That is the broken part. Gear in relation to PvE.
How your own opinion is better than his own opinion ?
Some players don't like PvP and they have their own opinion about NW, which had reduced values of some items, which they could get from PvE, for example.0 -
Toliman - Raging Tide wrote: »How your own opinion is better than his own opinion ?
Some players don't like PvP and they have there own opinion about NW, which had reduced values of some items, which they could get from PvE, for example.
The rate you could get raptures/cannies from nirvana was, will and never will be the same as participating in NW. Hence why the cost dropped.
I'm talking opinions regarding to WHY this game is supposedly be broken. I don't see being able to get better gear easier to compete with others as an element to call it broken.
That is the only opinion I gave on the matter, that NW most people do it for fun (which is pretty much more fact than opinion).
All other things have nothing to do with my opinion as those are pretty much facts (server/player based and no cashers = no servers)0 -
_dblazen_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »...
All other things have nothing to do with my opinion as those are pretty much facts (server/player based and no cashers = no servers)
Half year ago I saw more game-related messages in WC, than now.
This is fact, which players can't ignore, when they think about "fun".0 -
Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »its just surprising how many pple dont know how to farm in this game and think charging is the only option to compete >.> its like the fcc noobs are suddenly realizing they cant buy endgame gear like they could head rooms
True, but you can't farm R9(correct me if I'm wrong but you still need the base R9 armor), so nirvana and other gear is the only option. They are gonna take lazy route and gold sell regardless.0 -
Alsiadorra - Sanctuary wrote: »True, but you can't farm R9(correct me if I'm wrong but you still need the base R9 armor), so nirvana and other gear is the only option. They are gonna take lazy route and gold sell regardless.
You're wrong.
You can farm TT, BHs, Cube, Lunar, WBs, NW and sell FCs or TMs for say 20m per day.
You go to AH and change your coins for gold.
After 3 months (2 months on archo because of low gold prices) you go to CS and buy R9 on sale.0 -
HrunsPanda - Archosaur wrote: »You're wrong.
You can farm TT, BHs, Cube, Lunar, WBs, NW and sell FCs or TMs for say 20m per day.
You go to AH and change your coins for gold.
After 3 months (2 months on archo because of low gold prices) you go to CS and buy R9 on sale.
And yet, most people will simply sit around and complain about not being able to make money, rather than actually getting stuff done.
It's just ridiculous, how people these days expect to have endgame gear handed to them on a silver platter without even paying for it.
... Now I feel old.0 -
IDecision - Raging Tide wrote: »Oh.. i see nvm then. I dont feel like selling my car to afford r13 or whatever its up too now lol. Guess ill just leave this game in the past. Thanks for the responses, take care.
You can farm r9 with ingame coins,alot have done it now or go with stage 3 lunar/nirvana,takes a lil time to get the badges but well worth it,great armor/weapons.All you have to do is apply yourself.Cannies are under 25k now,raps are under 100k so **** is so easy to get now without spending 200+mill for a weapon like it used to be and countless millions on armor.You dont even need R9,proper refined s3 nirv/lunar and skilled playing abilities and still land you on top of the bodies of the dead even against r9,r9 recast nubs.
Also stop worrying about others and worry about yourself...my brother has a supra and i have a 99 plymouth breeze..do i cry cry..no,i drive drive...same here.b:byeThis game is like washing hair with shampoo... Rinse and repeat if desired.
Proud owner of many mains.101 bm,101 seeker,101 demon sin,100 sage sin,101 archer,101 barb,100 cleric,100 wiz( first toon since sept 08 finally made it in 2013)newly added mystic 100 HA,72 psy.0 -
Thrieya - Lost City wrote: »And yet, most people will simply sit around and complain about not being able to make money, rather than actually getting stuff done.
It's just ridiculous, how people these days expect to have endgame gear handed to them on a silver platter without even paying for it.
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So describe to them, how EACH player can get stable income regardless from CLASS to get best equipment, for example (it is just example, so these steps can be unreal):
1. Power level to level 105 using coins from ... (farming of joys).
2. Go to bh100 dozen of times every day, using equipment from ... (rank 1)
3. After month of play you can get ... (600 millions coins regardless from your real life)0 -
RyuTiger - Raging Tide wrote: »Let me make this easy for all of you:
TT- drop is very very low and from all 6 people what chance you have to take gold? Maybe after 20 runs..
BH- all about luck
FC- no one buy's anymore heads this day's
Farm DQ- are you kidding?
Farm herbs - who the hell buy that? Even if you sell it take hours to farm and cost very very low
FWS- no one buy's mold or craft service anymore not to say weapons T3 cost 50 mil less then you spend to make ....
NW- the prices for raps and canny's go so low that it is not worth the trouble, not to say only idiots spend 5 mil on HP charms lol
Put real money in game --R9 in 10 minutes lol
That is what the game is about......There are more but i am to lazy now.
even though i dont praise how this company works i must disagree with this
getting end game gears was never easier...drop rates never changed...it was crappy always but with lot of work and dedication you could always get something
this morning i did two 3-2 runs (mostly for oht mats because i need chi) and i got some greens and empire back image
so pretty much drops stayed the same while all endgame gears cost became ridiculously cheap
this update came few years to late because to many people already quit because of how this company worked.from my 5years exp playing on pwi i can tell only to enjoy and save your QQ till rank10 come out...knowing the company it will eventually happen0 -
Toliman - Raging Tide wrote: »So describe to them, how EACH player can get stable income regardless from CLASS to get best equipment, for example (it is just example, so these steps can be unreal):
1. Power level to level 105 using coins from ... (farming of joys).
2. Go to bh100 dozen of times every day, using equipment from ... (rank 1)
3. After month of play you can get ... (600 millions coins regardless from your real life)
Take a good look at the list of money makers i just posted (and you can add more it of course) Now wonder why you are talking as if BH is the only thing that can be done by non-APS toons.
And besides that, everyone can make a farming toon anyway. Its not that special to have more than 1 character.0 -
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Barbarian 103 - 101 - 101
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_dblazen_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »I have yet to see anyone solo faction trials so far, but like I mentioned in another thread, no one seems to do that anymore because MUH REWARDS.
b:bye
Some factions do trials for the lolz.
Is that so hard to believe? You don't need to be suborn and think that everyone who plays the game is a tight-***. b:bye[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Barbarian 103 - 101 - 101
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You people can keep arguing but the only sure way to make decent money on this game is what I said in my post that everyone ignored. Make alt's lvl them around the same lvl as the mobs with the highest drop rate of the desired crafting mats. Farm mat's feed genies exp to keep them at that lvl. Make another account setup a merc shop and play your other main chars in another window. Other than that TT, Cube, and BH's are all random not a very consistant income of money.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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HrunsPanda - Archosaur wrote: »Take a good look at the list of money makers i just posted (and you can add more it of course) Now wonder why you are talking as if BH is the only thing that can be done by non-APS toons.
And besides that, everyone can make a farming toon anyway. Its not that special to have more than 1 character.
I don't really agree with you that non-APS can only get money from BH rewards. (Whoops miss read quoted person)
I would say that at end-game, the best money you can make is from selling T3 weapons and armor. The problem is you need to already have decent gears to be able to survive any AOEs, soloing a pavillion or even getting past the squad leaders, "Wep link" requirements.
Some of the easiest money in the game comes from Solo'ing, and that is best done with assassins and their APS/BP/Stealth combos. TT, FC, and even TM if they got the Def.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Barbarian 103 - 101 - 101
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Sidwinder - Heavens Tear wrote: »You people can keep arguing but the only sure way to make decent money on this game is what I said in my post that everyone ignored. Make alt's lvl them around the same lvl as the mobs with the highest drop rate of the desired crafting mats. Farm mat's feed genies exp to keep them at that lvl. Make another account setup a merc shop and play your other main chars in another window. Other than that TT, Cube, and BH's are all random not a very consistant income of money.
I feel sad for you if you really believe yourself.
And besides these things makeing 10x the cions per hour than what you mention, go tell a casino or lottery owner* that it is not good doing things that involve chance instead of being consistent.
*Or a professional gambler/poker player, but that is too difficult for some people to understand so ill mention casino owners
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HrunsPanda - Archosaur wrote: » I feel sad for you if you really believe yourself.
Oh really? Feel sad for yourself then in 1 week just mercing rough furs on my alt acc I made 10mil coin. Now add in the other mat's Leather, Compound Oil, etc, etc and you can make a good mint in not much time at all.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Sidwinder-HT0 -
youre not alowed to have more than 2 clients running at a time.
10m per week is nice, but eh well.... I made about 5m per day merching before i left for traveling and when i get back i am gonna focus on duial client farming for a while because it is gonna make much more.
Dont take me wrong, merchanting may be the best way over farming in the end. But ill have to get into new methods to get beyond those 5m per day.
As warrenwolfy explains it with merchanting:
first you start with mats
then you go tokens/ celes/ stones
then packs and gold0 -
Sidwinder - Heavens Tear wrote: »You people can keep arguing but the only sure way to make decent money on this game is what I said in my post that everyone ignored. Make alt's lvl them around the same lvl as the mobs with the highest drop rate of the desired crafting mats. Farm mat's feed genies exp to keep them at that lvl. Make another account setup a merc shop and play your other main chars in another window. Other than that TT, Cube, and BH's are all random not a very consistant income of money.
While anything with a low'ish chance is not a very consistent source of coin in the short term, if you change your point of view to see that income over more trials (which can be translated to "over a longer period of time" for most cases), the income can end up being consistent enough.
For example, if you do one BH1 a day on average and you look at how much you'll earn in a month rather than day by day, you could take the average value of doing a BH (e.g. the sum of [drop chance] * [value of drop] for all drops), multiply it over your time period (e.g. 30 days), and that would be a decent estimate of much you could earn from BH in a month, and it would vary a lot less.0 -
The real best way to make money was that event with Bongso. That event rocked, Need to feed Bongso more candy for tons of excitement and ecstacy cards plz.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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yes it is broken. no reason to continue wasting time..Hear me roar!0
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Tyrion - Morai wrote: »yes it is broken. no reason to continue wasting time..
holy hell stop braging about this game. You decided to quit. Yes that's ok! but son't flood the forums with your **** (: ty
No one is going to miss you anyways just a random nub psy that's gone. We got more then enough left of your kind. Stop it here and go peacefully (:My Barb:
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Sidwinder - Heavens Tear wrote: »The real best way to make money was that event with Bongso. That event rocked, Need to feed Bongso more candy for tons of excitement and ecstacy cards plz.
It was still luck base to win money.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Knownase - Heavens Tear wrote: »It was still luck base to win money.
Yeah but in 1 night you could get 50 or so chances to get those cards that beats BH's.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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to help get people back to the game so its no dead put the r9 in the dq shopw cause if ya dont,im gonna key and scratch 20 chinamens ars at walmart. the game needsmore people,may even need a server merge,do what i say or suffer the consequence,ty
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to help get people back to the game so its no dead put the r9 in the dq shopw cause if ya dont,im gonna key and scratch 20 chinamens ars at walmart. the game needsmore people,may even need a server merge,do what i say or suffer the consequence,ty
your pal, me
you sound like some nigerian maffia group trying to send an extorsion message.
fail.0 -
barbs are unkillable with 40k+ hp in r9rr, archers are the new sins [completely unbalanced with the ultra fast purging/leaping/zoom combo of death], clerics still suck balls, so i'd say you haven't missed much.0
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Joe - Morai wrote: »holy hell stop braging about this game. You decided to quit. Yes that's ok! but son't flood the forums with your **** (: ty
No one is going to miss you anyways just a random nub psy that's gone. We got more then enough left of your kind. Stop it here and go peacefully (:
Don't be so rude my friend. I troll as long as I remember this site if possible and you're wrong..people miss me and I miss them too. I am better than any of my kind. This game just makes people sad and angry..who could leave peacefully? So have a nice summer a random nub barb!Hear me roar!0
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