Perfect world company

bluestuffzzz wrote: »

I remember you from the days when the goon fiasco was happening. If I recall correctly, you were the one that kept hijacking angry threads and spitting out nonsense about how people should either leave the game if they are upset, or take it up the butt and shut up.

Ah, yes. Good times. Shame nothing has really changed here, Jad.

I responded to the 1st 20 threads with logic and reason. I grew tired of the same folks making new QQ threads every freaking day. Why should I have to repeat myself in 50+ threads about the same thing? Oh, LOL at hijacking threads. How about all those goon QQers hijacking the forum? And not to mention those same goon QQers trying to hijack this thread. And you want to speak of shame? OMG...

Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »

You remind me of a politician. Never read replies, throw some accusations around, build up straw men, and don't really say anything. Your posts aren't worth the data they take up.

Going to say it again, since you keep skipping over it:

If you, personally, honestly believe that things are rectified and developed at a normal or acceptable pace, then you ought to go play more games to see what it is to have proper management and development.

I read replies fine. Just hate having to repeat myself over again. It's like beating a dead horse. If you want my answer just reread my posts. This is PWI and I couldn't care less about how other companies run their games. If you think they are ran so much better then why are you playing this game?

The OP is absolutely correct for listing all the issues PWE and its parent company resolved not to mention all the new content added in the process. Some people were thrilled with the changes and some aren't. It's impossible to satisfy everyone as the game progresses. Either adapt or move on.

Don't worry! Bout a thing! Coz every little thing! Is gonna be alright!

Ya know what? No. I reject your explanation. I reject your reasoning. I reject your "truth".

Let's analyze everything you just posted that they did.

APS, Tideborn & Sins: PWI addressed this and re-balanced skills and nerfed aps

Addressing it is a matter of opinion. Rebalance is a matter of opinion. APS is NOT nerfed in the least. Sins are still OPed. What's different? Oh their cheaper to make...next contestant!

- PWI addressed this by nerfed the EXP from the mobs.
Oh sure, but what about those people who abused the glitch and got to 105 in a matter of days. And don't say they were banned permanently. I know some who were never banned. I know some who had a 3 day ban. I know of none that got perma-banned! It's in TOS that you get banned if you abuse a glitch. Did it always happen? No. Did it happen some times? Sure... next contestant!

- Players wanted more content- PWI added Nation war / Morai and other endgame content.
Players wanted more Mid and low game content - not just endgame stuff
They added new quest lines for lower / mid lvls
Players QQ when DQ were nerfed and coins removed from Delta
PWI - added daily quest that players could do for coins to learn skills and get items.

China got those long before we did! As for the nerf of DQ, that mainly happened because of DQ farming bots on the chinese server. Because of what they did, we got hurt, and now our low levels can't get the coin for armors weapons and skills. Don't say there are a bunch of new quests, because a newbie who starts the game isn't gonna go looking for some quest that's out of the way... cause it doesn't auto pop. No.... They tried correcting this with special promo packs, but how many newbies have you seen on since those came out? Not as many as their were. Cause you can't grind for coin anymore. that pack just became a way for high levels to make some coins. Next Contestant!

Facebook connect recently went down and no one could get their Jones blessing.
The CM quickly gave a solution and posted codes on FB so that players could get their blessings.

FB connect goes up or down depending on your browser. This is nothing new, and to top it off, I didn't see anyone complain. Next Contestant!

There are countless amounts of times that players have complained and PWI has responded- not always in a timely fashion but they adapted and changed game play to the users desires.

Oh, really? Do you know what a timely fashion is? do you know what a change in gameplay looks like. Let me tell you something. I review games. It's a hobby, and a good way from going insane from college course work. EA, one of the biggest **** ups in gaming, is faster. When they **** up, and I let them know, I have a solution in under an hour and they're usually tossing me 2 or 3 game titles to make me shut my yap about things. No kidding. I've literally gotten like 12 games off of their **** ups for FREE.

Now, let me tell you what happens when PWI screws up....
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Lets say they ban you. Lets say you're innocent of wrong doing. You can't get onto the site to complain. You can't speak to a tech live. There is no number to call. You have to dig out the email you registered the account to, and email them. Then they take about 12 hours to respond. Then they tell you that you were in violation. You tell them that they are wrong, and 3-24 hours later, you get a responce of them telling you how you were in supposid violation.... You explain how they are wrong.... a few hours go by... the sun rises, and 3 hours after that... you're unbanned...

Now, you decided, well Violation of TOS that got me banned had to be reported, and all the time you were waiting for responces you were on an alt, or talking on skype or one of those other voice chats, and by the end, you've pinpointed exactly who did it... so since they caused you to get a ban, you ask to report them and you get the following as a responce:

It was not someone who reported you which disrupted your gameplay, it was us the GMs that banned you.

And you sit there and think... and think... and think... before responding.... I mean, I thought about it... And if you think about it, you'd come to the same conclusion.... If they hadn't reported you for breaking TOS when they didn't know if you were or not, you wouldn't of gotten banned.... Then you think some more.... The gms banned me, and mistakingly at that.... sounds like someone isn't doing the research...

By the way, if you're wondering, I did the research for my ban. I went through and read the complete terms of service when I got banned....

So at the bottom of the message they talk about your compensation....

By the way, I loved this in mine....

So let's think compensation....

If you figure that your account has a perfect seeker for the pits, and you have a 48 hour ban, if you spent 48 hours of that time in the pits, at 2 mil per hour... (1 mil for the cleric) that's 96 mil. Take out the 16 hours for sleep... that's still 32 hours... for 64 mil... So you suggest something worth these ideas.... and they say outright that you're asking for "such an insane amount as compensation"

Then they take the cake and tell you the following... And by the way, it's a direct quote from both a GM and the TOS

Please note that regardless of any notice, PWE reserves the right to discontinue the service or to terminate or suspend your account at any time in its soul discretion for any reason or for no reason.

So... now you're sitting there... and you're thinking, oh ****, i'd better keep my trap shut... they're gonna ban me if I don't.

So everyone who's posted above this post... remember.... they can ban you for no reason... complain all you want... it can happen.

As for me.... I'm just stating my opinion on matters. I don't see how things are "Fixed" but I never said they had to be. PWE is doing a fine job the way it is... cause no one likes a game that's over nerfed, and I can name a few that died due to nerfs.... So I think I'll sit back, and enjoy things the way they are.

All praise the wise GMs....

Jadsia - Lost City wrote: »

I read replies fine. Just hate having to repeat myself over again. It's like beating a dead horse. If you want my answer just reread my posts. This is PWI and I couldn't care less about how other companies run their games. If you think they are ran so much better then why are you playing this game?

Because liking something means caring enough to try and improve it. You'd know this if you weren't so much of a mindless sheep.

Svaarog - Sanctuary wrote: »

They never 'nerfed' APS toons, why (MOST!) APSers are mad is that compared to nirvana period when entire game was: aps aps aps they gave rest of us to make money without making assassin and bm alts to no life in nirvana 10 hours a day. As someone said, these super 5 aps squads with bunch of 3-4 k hp assassins now have to make their cannies/raps in nw and then they find out not only they are not on top but really at the very bottom of the food chain. Honours to a few, good aps players that still get to kick *** even with the system changed. I am glad nirvana is dead as it was the dumbest instance in this game - EVER, maybe not in theory but players did make it that way.

As for the people qq'ing about cash shopping? Who is forcing you to pay for anything? Do you also ask to enter public pool, cinema, theatre, opera, football game for free too? Or is it normal to pay for those 2 hours of entertainment?

Do you think your favorite music artist would exist if no one wanted to buy their CD's or pay their concert tickets? How do you think they would fun their existence and back their work?

Pwe is a company with employees, not group of enthusiastics wasting their time to make and host the game, pay for the servers and stuff so YOU jobless lazy ****er can show everyone how pro you are by farming 20 hours a day and then 'pwning' those same cash shoppers. Its a company that needs to have incomes, or else how it would even exist, on hopes and dreams?

Let me tell you something, why don't you go and work for 8 hours a day, and not get payed, would suck, wouldn't it?

Because obviously everyone who plays this game fits in only one of two extremes, lazy jobless people on welfare who spend all day farming a video game, or rich supposedly hard working people who pay all of PWE's bills. Really... Whenever I see an argument like this I'm forced to assume the poster is truly the unemployed lazy person as they obviously have no real world experience.

All of PWE's players fall in different pay to play brackets, ranging from completely free to play, to, ZOMG! I just put second mortgage on house for full R9 JOST!!!! Though that statement was written for humor, in actuality I make no assumptions about those who have CS gear and those who don't. Perhaps some people who don't have full R9 just don't see the merit in pumping thousands of their hard earned dollars, euros, pounds, or what have you into a video game. Does that make them non paying customers? No, it just means they aren't paying as much as someone with full R9 +10/12, but that doesn't mean they should have far less fun for doing so, especially when they had more fun before.

The entire CSing issue as I see it revolves around how PWI gave those who gave them tons of money epic gear, not the existence of the cash shop itself. This gear has destroyed the balance of the game and made it less fun for those who don't put in as much or any. It also hurt those who payed for the older epic gear (Rank 8 ftw) by making their gear completely obsolete, some of whom spent hundreds to attain it. No matter where your principles lie this is just a terrible way to handle things. Why? Well, lets look at another, similar form of entertainment.


A casino also has many different levels of player within their establishment. The high rollers get the free hotel rooms, the expensive food, and even the occasional casino credit. The regulars get the occasional free hotel room, free buffet coupons, free drinks and preferred sitting at several of the Black Jack and Poker tables. People who just walk in the door get none of these things but they can still play the slots, put down a few dollars on Black Jack, or spin the roulette wheel. And even if you don't spend any money, you can still sit in the lounge and enjoy the atmosphere. The point is, in none of the different brackets are the upper tier making the casino less fun and less enjoyable for those of lower privledge. Neither is the casino going up to its regulars and telling them they have to pay X amount more money than they are already paying if they want to keep their status as a regular there. Are casino's broke for doing so? No! They make **** tons of money! So much so that as soon as my state made gambling legal, gambling companies made plans to put up three of them.

To argue PWI is not a casino would make me laugh because it most certainly is. Packs have definitely made it so. But it is a casino that handles its payouts poorly, and those who win, or those who put lots of money into their slots, make playing less enjoyable for those who don't. I'm not talking about simply PvP, though that is an issue. PvE is also broken. Mages and Psychics pulling lines of mobs that used to be doable only by certain classes, weapons getting Procs that were the key skills of other classes, Phys and Mag defense that make it not matter what type of enemy your fighting. Att and Def levels that make general gear do less damage then it would already do just for being general... the list goes on.This isn't just limited to R9, these issues have been around since the early days of APS. What's the point of classes if every class can do everything with the right gear? Playing for challenge just becomes pointless and classes feel as if they aren't wanted anymore. The attitude of many R93 players these days doesn't help, but that's an entirely different issue.

So as I said, the balance and the handling of the cash shop is the problem with the cash shopping issues of this game, NOT cash shopping itself. Please understand that before making another post about how someone must be lazy and jobless because they make legitimate complaints about the problems plaguing this game.

thatguy123456 wrote: »

+1 Very well said, and i think there is many good points in this thread. I enjoy the game, and there are many issues. I however have lost whatever small hope i had that I would see the developers really listen. I don't know, maybe they are listening but to their own player base which might not even really include PWI for all they care *shrugs*. This game had and still has so much promise.

Well, according to some remarkably dense people in this thread, you just need to shut up and deal with it because they are doing the best the can and it's hard to do what they do.

Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Well, according to some remarkably dense people in this thread, you just need to shut up and deal with it because they are doing the best the can and it's hard to do what they do.

b:cry QQ b:cry

What else are you going to do about it? Flood the forums with more complaints or just play the game? I'm with the 90%+ that have adapted to the changes and moved on myself.

Really? People QQing about people QQing about QQers who QQ about the QQ dealing with the failure of certain aspects of the game???

For the life of me... I can't figure out if some people are being trollish jack-arses or just functionally rtarded.

People have a right to complain.
People also have a right to ignore.
I have a right to call you out for being a turdblossom.

b:victory

Kiszmet - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I'm not talking about simply PvP, though that is an issue. PvE is also broken. Mages and Psychics pulling lines of mobs that used to be doable only by certain classes, weapons getting Procs that were the key skills of other classes, Phys and Mag defense that make it not matter what type of enemy your fighting. Att and Def levels that make general gear do less damage then it would already do just for being general... the list goes on.This isn't just limited to R9, these issues have been around since the early days of APS. What's the point of classes if every class can do everything with the right gear? Playing for challenge just becomes pointless and classes feel as if they aren't wanted anymore. The attitude of many R93 players these days doesn't help, but that's an entirely different issue

If you allow me, i will take one last look at your post and try not to bore you to much, I wanted to separate quote this part specifically.

While I do agree with you on this part, I also disagree at the same time, this is why.

PWI takes huge responsibility for broken classes in this game but imo its the players that made game crappy. I agree, in perfect world I'd love for pve to be, have a barb to pull the mobs, then a healer ofc, bm to stun, debuff, veno to spark around, wizards to dd etc etc but it just does not work that way.

Lets completely ignore r9 periods and start from the beginning, i play my wizard since the game started - literally.

First everybody likes us to level their ***** in the zhen parties, everyone wanted wizards in squad for the sake of their power leveling.

Then TT came, first major way to make money or get good gear, what did we, mages get? You'd be hell lucky to even be allowed to join squad, and once when you do, barb always had first pick on the drops, cleric second, bms third, in the end, wizard would get the worthless junk that nobody wants - this was sanctuary server thing, can't talk for the others but this is a fact.

Nirvana came out, only 5aps bms/sins wanted, sage amp veno maybe, not even a cleric, again, players completely rejected some of the classes, and don't get me wrong, i am not being *** hurt about it, i was always rich and had my ways of making money, Im talking for the wizzies, psys, archers that was not that lucky. So again half of the game was rejected by other players.

Full delta, now the other half gets rejected and suddenly all want only archers and wizards, later seekers? Plus, you'd have to spend 5 hours in world chat begging for a barb and in the end pay 4-5m for him to come tank your delta (even tho he also has a profit and it IS the class he chose to play?!), how is that fair? Again, I was lucky to be in great fac and never had these issues but saw tons and tons of ppl in wc literally begging for a tanker for hooooours.

Oh oh lets not forget some great pvp factions that among other great wizards/psys/archers regularly asked me to join them (not saying i am great or anything! but it did happen) but yet all they wanted you for was to do their tws and gave nothing in return, even good fac i've been in was mass rejecting sins/bms with a : just a farm aps toon no good in tw we want WIZZIES! Guess what, some people don't have that much time to have 20 alts and each to serve different purpose, can't we just accept other ppl for what they are?

Yes, I can tank my own full delta now with a wizzie, yes I can tank my seat and abba, and yes I am a r9 user, but i like it because now I can plan my own game time and plan my own events, make my own squads and not depend on anyone's greed or pitty if they will come and help me or not. If you think it broke the game and its all gear and no skill, i'd love it if it was possible to let some non wizard take my good geared wizzard and try tank full delta or fight some of the nastiest players in nw and see how they do since, i mean, you don't even need any skill you got gear right?

I agree with you, in a perfect world it would be awesome to do stuff as you imagined it, but it just does not work that way, not only cause developers screwed up but also cause people are greedy, self-absorbed and selfish in generally.

Jadsia - Lost City wrote: »

And I'm allowed to agree with the OP of this thread. PWE and the devs made adjustments to the game when the player base demanded them. Had the devs and PWI did nothing about the goons I would have been inclined to agree with you and every goon glitching QQer out there. But the devs took care of the issue and now people like you QQ about how they did it and how long it took. Unbelievable. Some people just can never be satisfied with anything. How very sad to have to live like that. And as the criticism over the goon solution is concerned I have stated numerous times that so much of the game's content has changed and even certain personnel changes (the CM you all QQ'd so much about specifically) that your criticism is irrelevant today. OMG I watched and even helped a barb level from 102 to 105 in a couple weeks doing PV and morai dailies. Don't you get it? Not only did the devs nerf the goons but nobody gives them credit for adding content that allowed those who play legitimately to level almost as fast as the goon glitchers did. I call that leveling the playing field for the rest of us while others may call that adding some fair and balance to an unfair and unbalanced part of the game some abused.

I also see some QQ about how NW destroyed the rap market. Nobody does NV anymore. It's a dead instance. As I pointed out earlier n this thread those QQing about that are probably the super duper 5 APS sin elitists that were blowing though NV in 5 minutes getting rich off selling raps. Remember the WC for NV? Anyone not 5 APS excluded from these power runs. Then the QQ about the caster glitchers reminiscent of some drug dealer encroaching on another's turf. LOL! Then came NW and anyone lvl 60+ can get the raps they need for gear. Price crashes to a 1/10th of what it was and super APS sins become super obsolete. Not to mention the addition of the vile versions of WS and lunar bosses dropping molds for gear that are on par with r9 for the lay folks.

Do continue to beat your old drums, call that criticism and how to improve the game and then call me dense and a troll. LOL! Obsolete and baseless is what it is now because you fail to give credit to what has been added since. I believe so much of what has been added, NW with the Sirens of War update, was already in the process of being developed and in beta testing while the goon **** was going on. You fail to comprehend that maybe the devs had their hands full with all that at the time and yes it may have taken some extra time to deal with the goons because maybe they had a deadline to keep to get the Sirens of War update out of beta and live on the Chinese servers and soon after live on the EU and US servers. Have you ever thought about that or do you want to continue to troll me with comments about how I think it's too hard for the devs to do anything otherwise? What a petty thing to say.

The point of all that is that the devs are making changes to the game just as the OP has pointed out. You may not agree with the changes and focus on one small aspect of the game but you fail to look at the big picture. Advising you to look at the big picture is not asking you to be a drone. That's asking you to be open minded at all the changes entirely and knowing that more changes are coming. Looking back on the goon thing now at this point seems so petulant.

How much QQ about the new barb and veno forms is there? There are even serious glitches with them but at least I know that update is incomplete and I just patiently wait for the next part of it and have expectations that the glitches will be resolved then. I pity those who paid gold in the boutique for it because they were too lazy to quest for it. We were supposed to get special skills with it. Hasn't happened yet. Venos are going to get a major update to the pet system in the near future. It's already been implemented on the Chinese servers.

I'm quite certain PWE has a vision for the direction they are taking the game and I am positive that it has noting to do with most of what you are criticizing them for because of the obsolescence of it.

Really? Almost as fast? Lol, you're out of your damn mind. In one week (5 business days), of playing 2-3 hours a day - all that time spent on goon glitching, a level 1 new alt toon could hyper goon-glitch with a squad of 100+ and go from 1-104 or so. A level 100 could reach 105 in a week.

Let's look at the current alternatives for players with reasonable morals.

1.) FF/FC. To go from level 100-105 by hypering FF for 5 hours a day (a few solo runs a day), you can get 105 in roughly 10-13 months. Note, that this is double the amount of time per day as goon-glitching.

2.) PV. Due to the daily limitation set upon PV, you have a 15 minute increment time limit on doing as many runs as you can with multiple clients set up to pass lead and open. A level 100 doing this method and just this method would require roughly the same amount of time as FF/FC daily.

3.) Crazy Stone. You are forking over over 100k+ daily for roughly 1m exp and a chance at some more exp. Do this daily, and just this alone and you will spend over 4 1/2 years by my calculations, going from 100-105.

4.) Cube. Same as Crazy Stone minus a chance at more exp after.

5.) Oracles. Lol?

6.) Questing. Even if you combined every quest in the game into one massive quest, you couldn't go from level 100-101. Close, but you wouldn't make the cut.

So, tell me Jad. By what means does it take equal time, cost, and work as goon-glitching to get a toon leveled equivalently? This isn't taking into account the damage reduction a level 105 would have on level 103s or lower, or the stealth levels available for a sin, or the 10 extra stat points, etc. Sure it's all petty advantages, but why should they have it when I can't? Greedy on my mind, but logical.

I don't really want to get into the rest of your argument, because frankly there is no winning with you. You claim that 90%+ of the player base is with your argument, but that is false. Ask anyone if they played a video game where the company allowed players to hit the level cap and didn't do anything to fix it for 7 1/2 months; would they say how awesome that game company must be and praise them? Highly doubt it.

bluestuffzzz wrote: »

Really? Almost as fast? Lol, you're out of your damn mind. In one week (5 business days), of playing 2-3 hours a day - all that time spent on goon glitching, a level 1 new alt toon could hyper goon-glitch with a squad of 100+ and go from 1-104 or so. A level 100 could reach 105 in a week.

Let's look at the current alternatives for players with reasonable morals.

1.) FF/FC. To go from level 100-105 by hypering FF for 5 hours a day (a few solo runs a day), you can get 105 in roughly 10-13 months. Note, that this is double the amount of time per day as goon-glitching.

2.) PV. Due to the daily limitation set upon PV, you have a 15 minute increment time limit on doing as many runs as you can with multiple clients set up to pass lead and open. A level 100 doing this method and just this method would require roughly the same amount of time as FF/FC daily.

One can recruit others for single runs for this. Say, a barb that can solo the instance in 40 seconds with uber r9 sharded and refined gear can line up 10 to 12 people for 10 to 12 consecutive runs that they open within the 15 minutes that their token is good. And being in Shroud allows 2 PV runs a day so theoretically one can do 20 to 24 PV runs a day. Add that to the 10 100K morai orbs that cost 5 influence each. Don't forget about the 100K+ to 300K+ exp that we can get at least from each of the 4 to 5 divine contracts a day assuming that they do their daily BH runs.

Why did you refuse to add the exp from AEU here to add to this? We get at least 8+mil per week to add to the rest of the opportunities.

3.) Crazy Stone. You are forking over over 100k+ daily for roughly 1m exp and a chance at some more exp. Do this daily, and just this alone and you will spend over 4 1/2 years by my calculations, going from 100-105.

4.) Cube. Same as Crazy Stone minus a chance at more exp after.

5.) Oracles. Lol?

6.) Questing. Even if you combined every quest in the game into one massive quest, you couldn't go from level 100-101. Close, but you wouldn't make the cut.

So, tell me Jad. By what means does it take equal time, cost, and work as goon-glitching to get a toon leveled equivalently? This isn't taking into account the damage reduction a level 105 would have on level 103s or lower, or the stealth levels available for a sin, or the 10 extra stat points, etc. Sure it's all petty advantages, but why should they have it when I can't? Greedy on my mind, but logical.

I don't really want to get into the rest of your argument, because frankly there is no winning with you. You claim that 90%+ of the player base is with your argument, but that is false. Ask anyone if they played a video game where the company allowed players to hit the level cap and didn't do anything to fix it for 7 1/2 months; would they say how awesome that game company must be and praise them? Highly doubt it.

LOL! As I said I personally helped a barb level to 105 in a few weeks. Maybe the goon glitchers got there faster but so what. What is true now is everyone has many different ways to level to 105 legitimately now. What the hell do you want? The devs to make it so we can level from 1 to 105 in a few instance runs? b:surrenderI suppose people like you belong to one of those unintended new classes that came about when PWE decided to change frost into a powerleveling instance - the ENTITLEMENT class.

halfadinnermint wrote: »

Ye$, mo$t of u$ agree that there is a vi$ion behind the game, but there'$ no way of knowing what it i$. We'll ju$t have to wait and $ee what the future hold$.

Tell me, what is the mission of any company that has publically traded stock bought and sold by investors? I can help you out here. Their mission is the same as any other - to make a profit by selling a product or service. Name one MMO company that has publically traded stock bought and sold by investors out there that has a mission statement that excludes making a profit. Maybe you are part of that same entitlement class too that believes you deserve everything for nothing and QQ when you don't get it.

Jadsia - Lost City wrote: »

LOL! As I said I personally helped a barb level to 105 in a few weeks. Maybe the goon glitchers got there faster but so what. What is true now is everyone has many different ways to level to 105 legitimately now. What the hell do you want? The devs to make it so we can level from 1 to 105 in a few instance runs? b:surrenderI suppose people like you belong to one of those unintended new classes that came about when PWE decided to change frost into a powerleveling instance - the ENTITLEMENT class.



Tell me, what is the mission of any company that has publically traded stock bought and sold by investors? I can help you out here. Their mission is the same as any other - to make a profit by selling a product or service. Name one MMO company that has publically traded stock bought and sold by investors out there that has a mission statement that excludes making a profit. Maybe you are part of that same entitlement class too that believes you deserve everything for nothing and QQ when you don't get it.

If you were more active on the forums you'd know who my main is. I've been around this community since beta and have just about one of every class level 100+ with r8, r9 3rd stage, or Nirvana 3rd stage or better. I haven't spent a dime. Yeah, I have some entitlement issues. I expect the same treatment fairly to be set upon all players, regardless if you abused a glitch and have poor morals or are a fair player with solid morals.

ummidunno wrote: »

That's nonsense. Were you even around during goons or are just exaggerating what others told you? There was absolutely no one going from 100 to 105 in a week you're just making that **** up.

On my server the best geared R9 squads were going from 104-105 in 2-3 weeks back then with 2 hours per day.
These days the strongest geared R999 can do 104-105 in 3-4 weeks with 30 mins a day. You don't even need a squad but its good to have someone help open PV for you.

That's odd. I have screenshots of squads doing it and progressing to back up my claim.

bluestuffzzz wrote: »

If you were more active on the forums you'd know who my main is. I've been around this community since beta and have just about one of every class level 100+ with r8, r9 3rd stage, or Nirvana 3rd stage or better. I haven't spent a dime. Yeah, I have some entitlement issues. I expect the same treatment fairly to be set upon all players, regardless if you abused a glitch and have poor morals or are a fair player with solid morals.

you dont like it? stop playing. simple b:laughb:laugh b:chuckle

ummidunno wrote: »

That's nonsense. Were you even around during goons or are just exaggerating what others told you? There was absolutely no one going from 100 to 105 in a week you're just making that **** up.

It's nonsense indeed. But you're arguing with some guy who got banned on his main here for making like 100 threads about the company and how it sucks. b:chuckle