What if spawn point was a safe zone?

Walpurga - Dreamweaver wrote: »

It's safe for 12 seconds, 5 of which are under 3spark tier dmg boost.

15 seconds.

Just know that if your undergeared against someone a really higher tier than you (g16 v r9r2, r8 v g16, etc) don't expect to win against them unless you gank them.

The 15 sec immunity, 3 spark damage boost, and buffs is fair against Equal geared players, so it's best not to expect to kill someone a higher tier than you, so run and let someone else deal with them. The problem with making spawn point safe zones is campers which will exit and enter safe zone which can be really annoying when your trying to deliver the flag. (e.g. someone holy path outside of safe zone to attack, holy path back in if feels threaten)

Also, it is unwise to buff in front of your enemy when you re spawned, if you want to attack, immediately buff your most important skill (just 1) and go on the attack or run away. It is also reasonable to see the average enemy you will face, if it's a 10 v 20, expect to be able to deal with 2 enemies.

And don't forget... what you want that benefits you, WILL benefit the people your opposing. This is kinda how karma goes.

The whole point of NW is delivering the flag and claim lands, not PVP. Spawn killing isn't the only stressful point of NW.

Star_Prism - Archosaur wrote: »

Having a safe zone would be good. I've said it before the best place to do it is that center platform. Just make it slightly larger and add an overseer there. Have that be the only spawn point. While on that platform you can not attack or be attacked (but can use buffs and apoths). To keep it from being abused a person can not access it unless you are entering/respawing and it should have a timer. After a certain amount of time if you have not left you get ported back to base. That will keep afk alts out of battles.

With the larger map I don't even see why people still spawn kill. Now when people enter a battle that is heavily being spawn camped they will just leave. There are plenty of other battles for a person to go to, so no need to stay in. If everyone leaves or it killed off right away it makes the battle short and gives almost no points. People are actually sabotaging their own score by spawn killing and sadly, are too stupid to even realize it.

Sadly, knowing PWI, they recycle their systems and usually avoid creating new ones. I would expect some decent change in the new expansion which seems like it would involve changing NW a bit.

Actually, it's true that spawn killing does give less points, so does capping the flag way too quickly, however to many, if the situation is dire, they will go to serious measures. Everyone knowingly spawn kills, so it's rather hypocritical. The increase of map gives more opportunities if you would leave the map. One thing I would like is to respawn with full genie points, because I hate being killed protecting the flag and I HAVE to get back into the battle quick. But if it would change the much to people, I would approve spawning with full chi and full genie energy (so they can holy path away), just to make things a bit more interesting.

Walpurga - Dreamweaver wrote: »

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I'm usually fine with the spawn AD. If it's 20v1 I leave, if it's the flag group stomping through I fly up and away towards the flag and my team.

Yes flying to full height will prevent people from attacking you, (I believe there a small area up in the tree that god knows I can't reach lol)

BurnWhenIWiz - Heavens Tear wrote: »

If there was only one spawn point, then all the opposing side would have to do is camp around the edge of it. Except now they can use fewer people to hold your side at bay while they run the flag. You either go outside and get killed the same as before, or you stay in sz and are rendered useless to your side.

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I rather have people forced to fight instead people just sitting in spawn doing nothing and redeeming points for just being there, which can encourage more alts into NW. It's not a fun NW if everyone just sits in safe zone and don't let anyone kill them or even get a kill.

Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I'm forced to wonder how much will be fixed if your HP/MP bars refill to 100% (or at least 50-75%) when you respawn without a charm. It stands to reason that if you get half your chi back and a few helpful buffs, you should get your HP/MP back as well. This would actually do a lot towards curbing spawn camping.

I would approve this too, knowing that once spawn with such a low hp, 15 sec is reasonable to pot a crab, however hp wouldn't be full as it should. furthermore, with low hp, almost anyone can kill someone that just spawned, so it would save pots, even for me a charm tick, if you are spawned with 100% hp and mp.

The safe spot idea would cause more problems than it would solve. I think for the 15 seconds of immunity that you get after respawning, they should add a channeling buff. The channeling buff should allow buff skills to have no channeling or at least 1 second channeling. This will allow adequate time for buffs and healing.
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