Unfair Advantage in NW

omegaduy
omegaduy Posts: 10 Arc User
edited October 2013 in Nation Wars
Has anyone recommend to the GM on taking bramble buff away from NW? It is totally an unfair advantage to non S3 geared ppl, with their full buffs and high defense and hp. So many ppl got self-handled from just atking them. Let all turn in a report to have that remove.

It's totally not fun and unfair for the rest of us trying to have fun and enjoy this new development but end up balling us in the face...sheesh.
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  • KingCrash - Dreamweaver
    KingCrash - Dreamweaver Posts: 702 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Don't take away my aps troll buff.

    b:shocked
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    If they remove stealth and aps then ok, if not then let bramble.
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  • HrunsPanda - Archosaur
    HrunsPanda - Archosaur Posts: 1,136 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    close bad trolling tread plz b:surrender
  • omegaduy
    omegaduy Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Seems the only users of the buff are those that give or take from it. Think how much fun it would be w/o the buff...You don't see 2-5 groups of S3 brambled taking out 20 ppl in the battle. It's just unfair advantage bc all the non S3 gear ppl are not even a factor in the NW. We are just distraction factors clogging up the battle field.

    If not, have NW where all S3 geared ppl have their own arena and let us other enjoy the fun on a different playing field :)
  • Vedovis - Lost City
    Vedovis - Lost City Posts: 942 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    No thankyou~ I rather like trolling sins with demon bramble. Also, I haven't got "that high" refines and I'm quite squishy - take away my bramble and I'm a sitting duck for those S3 people you're complaining about. Psychics have always had their reflect skills so it's about time venos got some love, too <3
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  • Templar - Sanctuary
    Templar - Sanctuary Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    ye i say remove all and only leave normal attack.

    b:shocked

    b:chuckle
  • Yeaves - Archosaur
    Yeaves - Archosaur Posts: 130 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    It may not be fun for a sin to kill themselves on bramble but it's less fun to be aps'd to death after a stun.

    There are ways to get around killing yourself. It just requires using skills other than spark + auto attack
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  • Sheswes - Heavens Tear
    Sheswes - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,216 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    another powerlvled sin in FF with 2 buttons - demon spark and normal attack b:bye

    where were you 2 years ago? you didnt qq in those days, did you?
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  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Really?
    Like...really? Bramble of all things is too much for you to handle, OP?
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  • X_Beo_Wulf_X - Sanctuary
    X_Beo_Wulf_X - Sanctuary Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    its all about skill now ( just wait and watch for the buffs)
    If u think you can take them then use Ad and Ig which will help you take them down

    even times ive taken on someone with bramble and killed myself
    i kewn they had bramble but meh have to try and see if i could lol
  • burningsweetfire
    burningsweetfire Posts: 142 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I enjoy watching sins derp kill themselves on bramble. I just stand there using my wave emote while they just drop. b:laugh
  • _dblazen_ - Dreamweaver
    _dblazen_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 566 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Vedovis - Lost City wrote: »
    Psychics have always had their reflect skills so it's about time venos got some love, too <3
    The main difference is that psychics can't spam it on everyone, where venos can.
  • Slivaf - Dreamweaver
    Slivaf - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,106 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »
    If they remove stealth and aps then ok, if not then let bramble.


    Although I think that its only fair that ANY class can either survive real well, or kill with ease, and a sin... well its in their name, they should be killing easyish if they're strong enough. (Bm's imho can do neither real well without some heavy apo/charm/real high refines, and even with all that if they are on the losing side in nw.. they will still get pwnt left and right. (I am not talking one shot either, I am talking about the culmative damage on a bm adds up real fast and to top it all stunlocking is heavy in the chi cost department, and without a real badass axe chances are they wont be killing anything either.) Hell i have heard of a 21k hp bm on my server that still got one shot by a caster... ty most diffcult class to play for nw. (bms)

    All that aside I still agree that bramble shouldnt be fully disabled from pvp I too find it funny to watch ppl aps others only to die themselves, besides as a veno pointed out... not all venos have 'badass' gears. ALbeit it is another thing in the... it seems unfair that ppl get to wail on us department and even when we get to them we still can't do anything to them. That doesn't seem all that fair imho; HOWEVER, I still do not think it should be disabled, it really does make ppl think twice before apsing someone/something. xd lol
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  • XSonOfCircex - Sanctuary
    XSonOfCircex - Sanctuary Posts: 1,173 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Bramble is just a way to stop sins from 5.0 derping their way to victories. You can circumvent it with a variety of methods, but if it's proving that much of a problem for you that bramble, of all the actually broken things in game that you choose to comment on, is what you choose to complain about, I recommend the uninstall button.
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  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    It depends on gear difference, mostly I haven`t had any troubles taking down people with average gear, if a really tough target use AD or Blood Frenzy but with BF there is no 100 % guarantee but it helps a lot, the biggest problems arose if the opponent is r9 with good refines and what`s worse with JoSD`s.
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited April 2013
    I completely disagree with having bramble removed for reasons already pointed out here.

    Also this is getting moved to the right section for it.
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  • VKnightV - Lost City
    VKnightV - Lost City Posts: 381 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    bramble only work in duel nw tw and pve... it dont work in pvp tho nw is kinda pvp.

    still its dont work everywhere

    also its veno main buff

    also about broken stuff sin for one have many broken buffs we could also discus

    so leave bramble as it is kay
  • geestring
    geestring Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    o.O i rather bramble than casters 3rd cast weapon making them be able to click with one hand and scratch thier balls with the other
  • Teseanna - Heavens Tear
    Teseanna - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,021 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    omegaduy wrote: »
    Has anyone recommend to the GM on taking bramble buff away from NW? It is totally an unfair advantage to non S3 geared ppl, with their full buffs and high defense and hp. So many ppl got self-handled from just atking them. Let all turn in a report to have that remove.

    It's totally not fun and unfair for the rest of us trying to have fun and enjoy this new development but end up balling us in the face...sheesh.

    getting killed isn't fun either...
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  • Apostasy - Raging Tide
    Apostasy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,197 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    learn to use your skills, your genie skills, and apothecary, as well as charms. gonna take away psys' soul of vengeance and retaliation next? i lost count how many sins popped on me and *bleeeeh* dead b:sin and if you cant learn your skills and other advantages available, at least learn when to walk or even run the other direction. be smart about who your targets are and note what icons are to be left for someone else to deal with... just om f:strive
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  • Zarkoff - Raging Tide
    Zarkoff - Raging Tide Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    They need to remove all spells and abilities in NW !!!!

    come on, let's make it fair for everyone. NW should be a emote contest !! Winners based on how many hugs and smiles they can do in 5 min !!!

    Synchronized dance routines will score high, and the more people synched, the higher the scores !!! Double points per panda in each dance squad !
  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited April 2013
    Zarkoff - Raging Tide wrote: »
    They need to remove all spells and abilities in NW !!!!

    come on, let's make it fair for everyone. NW should be a emote contest !! Winners based on how many hugs and smiles they can do in 5 min !!!

    Synchronized dance routines will score high, and the more people synched, the higher the scores !!! Double points per panda in each dance squad !


    ... This should be an actual thing. b:avoid
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  • Star_Prism - Archosaur
    Star_Prism - Archosaur Posts: 216 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Zarkoff - Raging Tide wrote: »
    They need to remove all spells and abilities in NW !!!!

    come on, let's make it fair for everyone. NW should be a emote contest !! Winners based on how many hugs and smiles they can do in 5 min !!!

    Synchronized dance routines will score high, and the more people synched, the higher the scores !!! Double points per panda in each dance squad !
    OPKossy wrote: »
    ... This should be an actual thing. b:avoid

    Yes, this would be great.

    Have an instance with different landscapes and depending where you are, you have to do different things. I think having a dance that requires using skills would be cool. You have an object we can target that is immune to damage and we have to choreograph a dance using attacks/buffs/skills. Some places would require using all same class, and then others would require 1 of each class and then another a variations of classes.

    I would love to see wizard water ballet f:grin
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited April 2013
    Star_Prism - Archosaur wrote: »
    I would love to see wizard water ballet f:grin

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  • Alastar - Harshlands
    Alastar - Harshlands Posts: 121 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Zarkoff - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Synchronized dance routines will score high, and the more people synched, the higher the scores !!! Double points per panda in each dance squad !

    Relevant
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Slivaf - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Hell i have heard of a 21k hp bm on my server that still got one shot by a caster...

    What people probably forgot to mention was the BM was probably a idiot in physical marrow with no elemental ornaments.

    You could have 30k hp if you wanted, but if you have 0 magic defense you wont last long, it's like a cleric with 10k hp and 1k p.def buffed... it's a one shot.
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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Zarkoff - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Synchronized dance routines will score high, and the more people synched, the higher the scores !!! Double points per panda in each dance squad !

    Tunnel Snakes got this **** on lockdown. Don't even bother showing, everyone else. b:cool
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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    OPKossy wrote: »
    ... This should be an actual thing. b:avoid

    Then we'd be playing scape of runes

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  • Kniraven - Lost City
    Kniraven - Lost City Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I just wanted to point out a few ridiculous errors in here.

    1.) Psychics do not have a reflect buff. The damage you deal to them in no way whatsoever affects the damage returned to you from their buff.

    2.) Removing aps (attacks per second) means making it so that nobody in the game can attack at all. If a wizard can cast one attack every 3 seconds, he has 0.33aps. People who say "remove aps" are idiots. They could say remove interval gear, they could say lower the aps cap, but saying remove aps does not even make sense.
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  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »
    2.) Removing aps (attacks per second) means making it so that nobody in the game can attack at all..

    nope. at least for anyone with a tiny bit of common sense.
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