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I'm very much a fan of this idea.

I think my question at the moment is, how does the staff plan to handle hot-button issues? Take the recent Frost hypering argument, for example. Assuming the discussion stays civil (big "if," I know) and it keeps to one thread, would it be allowed? Also, how does the staff plan to follow up on persistent issues even if they lose the spotlight for a while?

These are just things I'm curious about. In the end, as a long-time critic of the lackluster communication systems between the playerbase, PWE, and wanmei, that this has the potential to go a long way to fixing those issues. Let's make this successful.

1)The ability to lock skills on the hot bars so you don't drag them off by mistake, can't tell you how many times that has happened to me, it's so annoying xD.

This is a bit off on a tangent but I'd still like to see it implemented, if possible.

I'd like to see the ability to rearrange genie skills without having to learn them in the specific order that you want them to be in, the same way you can rearrange icons on the "normal" skillbar. I'm a massive PvPer and I rearrange my genie skills... a lot. It would be convenient if I could stop wasting both time and spirit on this. XD

Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Perhaps.


Though, to be honest I don't see how it's unfair for BMs to have all four weapons. They would have to pay 2m per weapon, and it's of the same gear tier as any of the other weapons of classes that use only one weapon to unlock all their skills. Blademasters, as it stands, can only use one path to the same effectiveness as other classes can use all of their skills. It'd be nice for what I said to be implemented, or for a revamp that allows for Blademasters to purchase all four and use them. Being stuck with one weapon on a class meant to use multiple weapons makes very little sense.

I have to agree with everything he said, but one thing I would like to point out is this:

The fact that a bm in 'mediocre' gear is an easy one shot to MANY classes/people even if the 'killer' has the same gear roughly as the bm, aka not quite end game gear, but still enough to one shot the bm with ease... even if they have the right marrow on, do you all feel that there is a balance issue specifically with bms in game?

My bm is by far my favorite class to play, (sadly that is only true for pve) but I and many other people on my server avoid bms like the plague for mass pvp (more so for nw, arguably a farming instance), their survivability is quite atrocious in mass pvp, once we get up close (and get up close we must to even have a chance to kill) we end up dying so fast its not even funny, I and other find it the opposite of fun being such an easy kill to others. (I know we have our magical marrow, but it seems to pail in comparison to the def levels seekers have, the deaden nerves sins have, as well as their stealth, focused mind, etc, the barbs have their real badass shields to survive a insane amount of damage, yet all a bm really has is their marrows, and well they kind of suck when so many people are opting for a range/mage class for nw, making it that much harder for a bm to live there, and actually get some points.

We can't even stun lock anymore efficiently, which so makes killing others oh so much harder. (Please do note that I am not saying its impossible for bms to kill, but it sure is ridiculously hard especially with all the people running around that can one shot 90% of the bms in game.)

Anyways to reiterate that question up there, do the devs feel that bms need a rework, since it seems they are avoided to some extent for nws?

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One other thing I want to bring up that I know is being discussed in another thread is the fact that purify is completely and overpowered in pve/even in Nation Wars, I know its on the r8 recast weapons, which that is no guarantee but it is on the r9 on the final recast, the skill really is rather over overpowered. I guess what I am trying to get at is will ha users ever get a skill on a weapon that is equally and arguably as badass as the weapon skill purify? (I do realize we have God of Frenzy which does allow us to have huge spike damage depending on the refines of out weapon, but meh that skill seems to pale in comparison to the "PURIFY" skill on magic weapons. (Its hard enough as it is now to kill a magic class, people are definitely getting smarter about how to avoid a ha class, then they turn right around, and completely own the HA class, but when you add the purify skill on the weapon into the mix it becomes that much harder to do anything against them.)

To reiterate that too... what do you plan on doing to help balance out the purify skill for nw, perhaps will ha users get a skill that offsets the power of purify?

P.s I realize this is long, so thank you for taking time out and reading it, (assuming you did) and i for one hope you will be able to reply and give an answer on those questions i had up there.

P.S.S... I realize this second question may have been answered already on that thread, it can be easy to miss when the thread move so fast, regardless I do apologize for the extra work if you already answered it.

Slivaf
The "Self proclaimed" Legendary Blademaster

TW scheduling is messed up and the 2nd time slot at the moment is on Monday at 8pm, but it should be Saturday at 2pm as it was previous to the latest update. Last week we were told it would be fixed for this last TW week before map reset but it has not, and many people missed out on TW because of it.

Oh Oh what about the r9 dagger display texture that is "missing" honestly if i could choose the black look that my laptop has isntead of the white my desktop that would be sweet. if those arent really what they looked like, what do they really look like? should i post this seperatly in the quality section? b:laugh

genotypist wrote: »

I'm not on the game design team, so I would honestly be lying if I spoke for them in this matter. However, I can say a couple things that are universally true:

1) In a class-based game where the classes aren't all carbon-copy replicas of each other, 1v1 encounters are simply never going to be balanced. Even 2v2 encounters are really unfair depending on class compositions. Looking at the PvP content we provide (TW, Theater of Blood, NW, etc), it's obvious to see that the goal has always been to entice collaborative play.

2) When you have more than 1 class, by definition you're going to have a best and a worst in any given metric. Buffing the lowest class simply demotes the second-lowest into that unenviable last position. Granted, the delta shouldn't be so huge that it's unfair, and by your assertion, BMs are in this easily one-shot-able category (an opinion that I don't agree with, to be frank). In such a case, bring up specific cases. We can discuss specific cases using logs as evidence much better than generalizations.

It is absolutely based on gear, but I do guess I was exaggerating a bit back there, but still, I don't see many bms in nation wars at all. So many people have left bms behind in favor of other classes for nw. I do understand what you said about the aspect that it may seem unfair for certain classes in a mass pvp setting. However I do still have the opinion that blademasters shields really are quite useless in mass pvp, it can really leave them open for a world of pain in nw/tw especially with all the archers and seekers running around, we use altar marrow magical to protect from all the mages in pvp that can really HURT, a seeker or archer sees that, and boom we get hurt quite a bit from the physical end, but again that depends on their weapon. The balance of power really seems to be in the favor of ranged/mage classes in mass pvp, I know I struggle to kill them, while they can easily gang up on me when I have to get up close to do anything, while they stay at a safe range, and its more... uncommon for them to have to deal with more than one person on them.

One thing I notice even with altar marrow magical demon, the hits from mages still average somewhere around 5k+ per hit, that along with the damage from physical attacks, I go down quite ridiculously fast, but again it all depends on their gear/my gear/hp, a charm etc, I don't generally have this problem on my other 2 ha classes that I have nwed with, don't get me wrong I still die, but it feels oh so much more relaxing on them, and from what I have watched from sins... most seem to be at ease with dying, as they can still kill quite fast, telestun, spark, and their hits far outdamage a bm in very similar gear, it really is far easier for a sin to keep up the chi to pull off that combo, albeit it is easier for many people to survive that tactic from many sins, but still they do have an easier time killing others.

I do realize there is a plethora of things to take into consideration when trying to make sure things are balanced, but this does not change the fact that.. Nation wars just does NOT seem appealing at all on my bm, i'll stick with other classes for that. (Hell I know of a bm on my server that 'quit' nw on his bm, and he nor I are that horrible in pvp, he ended up on a psy at like level 75 I think it was, and he was getting just as much points on his psy as he was his bm... so yea... I am so not the only one that is finding playing a BM in nation wars to be quite lackluster. I can't and will not give an exact number, because obviously not all bms feel the same way, but really I do rarely see any bms at all in nation wars.

EDIT: I guess what I am trying to say is this, a bm in somewhat decent gear like +5ish g16ish gear gets absolutely punished (slightly exaggerating, but still... its not fun being easily killed before we even know where the attack is coming from and even when we do we are often dead before we even get one hit in) while all the other classes seem to do quite well with similar gear. (Speaking of nation wars, they are indeed more than fine for any other instance.) edit2: It just seems unfair that bms do not really have the means to survive to even attempt to kill others in mass pvp, barbs have their shields, sins their stealth, and seekers ranged attacks actually do some rather decent damage, bms really have no other choice but to get close to do some rather decent damage to others, which in turns really leaves them open to an onslaught of attacks from others both physical, and magical.

KozyStrike - Archosaur wrote: »

when coin reward for dq71 will be fixed?

i looked into forums and found this by this date 11-14-2012, 10:07 AM




will it be fixed?
i miss grinding

It got replaced by a coin farming quest, as stated by v4liance in that thread.

Here are the quotes for it:

v4liance wrote: »

Hey folks,

New update:

We've been working with the developers to create an alternative method of coin farming for low to mid level players, and we're hoping to have this new system available before too long.

No promises on when this will be out, but I'm very hopeful that it will be live within 4-6 weeks.

Again, I'll keep you all posted as I learn more.

- Val

You should try out the Jolly Old Jones Bounty Order quests, and be sure to report any bugs from them. I've been hearing it's pretty buggy.

Blue__Lycan - Sanctuary wrote: »

I mean if you can't give an accurate answer yet that's fine with me but can you at least tell us you saw the thread? Really though I'm really glad you guys decided to add this forum.

Well they've said they cannot answer all the topic's but they will make sure every thread will be read.f:sneaky