seekers are too easy to play

Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Seekers without GoF pose no threat to me in 1v1, 2v1, or even 3v1s. A +6 G16 sword on my +5 R9 doesn't do nearly enough to force me out of the fight, let alone kill me. I don't imagine that changes if we're talking end game full +12 with Jades. The only problem with that would be killing it, it may be a different case if you're massively debuffed, but a G16 Seeker doesn't cut it from what I can tell. It's the ability to zerk both magic and physical hits along with the ability to tank so well (even with +10 TT100s it took a triple spark to kill a full G16 Seeker) that makes them OP, oh, and the ability to reduce your defense and increase their attack while sealing you. Granted, G16 claws with a proper APS setup would allow me to deal a lot more damage and kill him without sparking provided I pulled off a good enough stunlock, but that's beside the point. The point is once they get Zerk and R9R3 Seekers become nothing short of completely broken. Not saying G16 Seekers aren't good, just saying it's Zerk that makes them truly threatening.

Yup, that Zerk is pretty awesome, but honestly the what? 20% chance of getting zerk? and then the 5% chance to get a zerk crit isn't enough to save yourself when your being mowed down by full rrr9 Mag Classes.

Also we're getting a bit off topic, the thread is about whether it's easier to play a seeker than any other class, not whether they are OP with zerk or not >.<

lol well r9 bm's really arent hard for me to kill unless their very skilled which is rare.. and i only have +7 g16 swords also.. who actually uses krav maga in pvp?.. waste

Daruvial - Sanctuary wrote: »

you say r9r2 but you post a picture of yourself with r9r3 wep.. unless its morai wep?

Ok lemme make that clear again lol
r9 = regular rank 9
r9r = rank 9 recasted
r9r2 = rank 9 recasted twice

So, i really dont know what you mean when you r9r3? recasted three times? Also, i use krav maga in NW and TW cuz there's no point in gaining that extra crit and 3 attack lvl instead of 5 defense level. cuz since we 'll be hitting so many ppl already(combined with our natural crit rate along with that awesome 40% crit - if ur crit build), there'll be enough crits going around as it is. So i use krav maga in NW and TW.

Daruvial - Sanctuary wrote: »

we call it 3rd cast r9 on sanctuary.. i would never use krav maga in either but then again im not r9 so i need the damage and crit.

we call it 3rd cast too but we also call it 2nd recast.
Hence, why the r9r2 where r means recasted.
But ya, it all depends on how your build is i guess. Since i got enough crit already, i use krav maga for extra 5 defense level

_tannerru_ - Archosaur wrote: »

O_o so much QQ about seekers lately. If seekers are so easy to play why can't those rrr9+12 seekers kill this little seeker

talking about seeker v seeker is pointless. they were talking about our damage on other classes. however it is indeed possible for a r9r2+12 fully JOSDed seeker to kill a regular rank 9 seeker if the former one is good ofc. I guess you could evaluate how well the seeker plays by having that seeker fight with another seeker. Cuz against other classes, its just a matter of knowing certain combo and thats about it. But then again, its the same for all other classes as well.

LiveWire - Raging Tide wrote: »

Seekers is all about timing and skills, if you think it's an easy class you're wrong.

It's easy to be decent on a seeker, it's nearly impossible to be pro

I'm not r9r3 wep.. But armors, and i kill all seekers regardless of their gear on rt atm, there are so many abilities that are not used by any other seekers than me, on RT etc r8r wep with def lvl to cause larger debuff switch it to r9 and switch blessings, use mirage sword to HF people more efficiently and not loosing apoth. I hit arawin 22.171 crit non zerk unspark like that. "full r9r3 +12 JoSD cleric Emperor tome, r9r3 ring and g16+12 cube neck. And yesterday Damage test mob for 1.53milion unspark without help from any other people, with level 10 titans and no myst buff.

So come tell me seekers is only about gear, and i'll bet you 100mil i can kill you with equally geared

"im r9r3 armors +11 JOSD, g15+12 Cube magic, r9+12 sword garnets, g16 4 soc lunar helm, lvl 7 cit gem +11, g16 lunar cape +10 4 soc lvl 7 cit gem. Cloud stir+11 Sky Cover+3 Pure str 20k hp base. up to 147 def lvl, up to 150 atk lvl, 7821 mag res base 15000 pdef base. 23% crit, 637 str 76 vit 11 mag 173 dex with gear equipped."

I really dont see you using your "sword" to HF people more efficiently during TWs and NWs since its a once in a blue moon kinda thing. Its just you gotta rely on it to proc rather quickly if you do use it in group pvp. I am not talking about 1 v 1, or against a mob which is purely there to test your damage and nothing about your pvp skill.

And most ppl don't have r8r sword that they can use at the moment cuz everyone be focusing on getting other stuff first(like upgrading your rank 9 gear first).

23% crit rate? Which just means you gotta pray to every gods out there to land a crit hit on someone or a zerk crit for that matter.

This thread was talking about how easy it is to play a seeker and that's definitely true to a point. You just need to remember a certain combo and you can pretty much use it against any class in pwi and WIN if you're equally geared. As for mastering your seeker, that's something that can't be done pwi as it can't be done with any other classes in pwi. Cuz pwi is a money sucking company that is heavily geared towards outranking everything if your gear is powerful enough, at which point skills don't matter, only your survability does. And with fully end game geared seekers, they have the best of all in regards to the max defense achievable, so yes they are indeed easier to play.

I am not bashing against you. Its just how the game has been developed.

On that note, I have always been able to do 1 mill damage on that mob even when i was just regular rank 9 with no JOSDs in my gear and no barb buffs or watsoever.

IHaxJoo - Raging Tide wrote: »

I really dont see you using your "sword" to HF people more efficiently during TWs and NWs since its a once in a blue moon kinda thing. Its just you gotta rely on it to proc rather quickly if you do use it in group pvp. I am not talking about 1 v 1, or against a mob which is purely there to test your damage and nothing about your pvp skill.

And most ppl don't have r8r sword that they can use at the moment cuz everyone be focusing on getting other stuff first(like upgrading your rank 9 gear first).

23% crit rate? Which just means you gotta pray to every gods out there to land a crit hit on someone or a zerk crit for that matter.

This thread was talking about how easy it is to play a seeker and that's definitely true to a point. You just need to remember a certain combo and you can pretty much use it against any class in pwi and WIN if you're equally geared. As for mastering your seeker, that's something that can't be done pwi as it can't be done with any other classes in pwi. Cuz pwi is a money sucking company that is heavily geared towards outranking everything if your gear is powerful enough, at which point skills don't matter, only your survability does. And with fully end game geared seekers, they have the best of all in regards to the max defense achievable, so yes they are indeed easier to play.

I am not bashing against you. Its just how the game has been developed.

On that note, I have always been able to do 1 mill damage on that mob even when i was just regular rank 9 with no JOSDs in my gear and no barb buffs or watsoever.

1st i had the HF sword yesterday.

2nd what you're saying is complete rubbish, seekers can tank most in 1v1 by their great def but dies easily if u are unaware, i died to saint edwin before when i was afk and he sniped me- in 3-4 hits 3 sparked so dont overestimate their def either.

3rd my 1.53mil damage was without sparking, i do 4mil damage like that sparked.

IHaxJoo - Raging Tide wrote: »

So, you mean you've actually done 4 mill damage on the mob for real? If so, why don't you try to beat that every week by sparking instead of getting "just" 1.5 mill damage on the mob? Aren't you doing that to show off anyways? Idk about you but i think 4 mill damage would look cooler than crappy 1.5 mill damage you deal every week. lol

Also i remember a few weeks back, i just sat there in west just walking around in west with you trying to "kill" me for good fifteen minutes. And i was just regular rank 9 while you already had the almighty r9r2 armors with ur r9+12 weapon. From what it looked like, you were having trouble killing me even though i wasn't even fighting back at all. Just means to prove my point earlier made. You have to pray to every god out there to get that lucky zerk crit to kill a fellow seeker who didn't even 1st recasted rank 9 nor any JOSDs in his gear.

Unless you go full crit build(like me muahaha) you will have trouble killing your opponent quickly and instead you have to hope for that zerk crit. Dont get me wrong. Zerk crit on an opponent is great but it still sucks when you basically have to rely on it to kill other people.

you are really making me regret my choice of going for nirvana gear and str build b:surrender

IHaxJoo - Raging Tide wrote: »

Wanna know how broken seekers are?
Look at this SS i got today from my NW. http://i.imgur.com/LvDvhjP.jpg
That mystic was a rank 9
and i m only regular rank 9 gears with my r9r2 weapon +7 with flawless phy attack gems
and you could look at my sig too i guess.

And all this damage is just our own debuff.

if i were you id be more QQing and worried about R9r3 sins.
Seekers need to get lucky, sins dont :P

_tannerru_ - Archosaur wrote: »

I'm pure strength with 32% crit doing just fine -__- lol.

If u reread my post again, i clearly was replying to his 23% crit rate, which sucks.
Ofc, the most viable option would be to have crit of at least 33% . cuz then you'll crit at least every 3 attacks(give or take).

lol utter and complete bull****. seekers have gained a big but if not the best boost from the new expansion simply because they were under powered. e.g when morai wasnt out and how we had to use a mirage for our buffs and stuff like that. but as for now seekers are not the easiest class to play in the game because unfortunately it still and might always be physics.

either way any class is playable. its just about how you learn what your class is about and innovate with your class around other aspects of the game. lol even with this new expansion ive seen more seekers who just get rolled in pvp. thinking it's damn easy!