Is scaming a banable offence?

ali0342
ali0342 Posts: 10 Arc User
edited January 2013 in General Discussion
Can anyone who knows tell me that, Is scamming someone in game is a banable offence?b:angry
Post edited by ali0342 on
«1

Comments

  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited January 2013
    Yes, yes it is. If you've been scammed, submit a ticket. With proof.

    kritty%20sig_zpsp0y7ttsb.png
    Thanks to MikoTenshi for the Avi and Kritty for the Signature.
    Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
  • Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver
    Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver Posts: 756 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Always...as is hacking, abusing certain glitches, PK'ing in SP without consent of the other person, and whatnot.
  • ali0342
    ali0342 Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    ii have submitted long time ago with an ss that I got scamed by a person I was trying to transfer coins from 1 server to another amount was around 400mil of lost city with 350m of arch server but I got reply from pwi that we cannot ban someone on scamming issues you have to be carefull by ur self on itb:cry
  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited January 2013
    Server transfers are done at your own risk. They wouldn't actually tell you if the person was banned. They'd feed you some line but they don't discuss discipline with other people. They certainly would not give you your coins back since you're trying to get around game mechanics. I know people who have been banned for scamming.

    kritty%20sig_zpsp0y7ttsb.png
    Thanks to MikoTenshi for the Avi and Kritty for the Signature.
    Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
  • ali0342
    ali0342 Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    this time a guy asked me that is it banable offence that he gave his 2nd cast dagers+some coins to someone to 3rd cast it and now that guy not giving his dagers back

    so is it banable?
  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited January 2013
    Yes, that is bannable. And if you're just gonna try to get some kind of exhaustive list of bannable scams, not only will I close this but it wouldn't even work even if I did give you that. They can ban you for any reason they see fit, it's right there in the ToS. which you can read here: http://www.perfectworld.com/about/terms
    PW TOS wrote:
    (j) Engage in any actions that defraud or attempt to defraud, scam or cheat others out of any items that have been earned through authorized game play;

    kritty%20sig_zpsp0y7ttsb.png
    Thanks to MikoTenshi for the Avi and Kritty for the Signature.
    Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
  • ali0342
    ali0342 Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    give what back and is it permenant ban?
  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited January 2013
    If you've taken someone's daggers, I suggest you give them back to them. You'll make your case better. If you had yours taken, submit a ticket. Specific bans are not permitted to be discussed on the forums.

    kritty%20sig_zpsp0y7ttsb.png
    Thanks to MikoTenshi for the Avi and Kritty for the Signature.
    Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
  • skaitavia
    skaitavia Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I have a strange feeling the original poster is wanting to make sure he's safe before he takes someone else's hard work for himself, based on how he's wording his replies..
    [SIGPIC]Octavia is best pony![/SIGPIC]
    Need to talk to a pony?
    I'm watching you o.o
    Contact me! | Submit a Ticket | Forum Rules | My YouTube channel
  • ali0342
    ali0342 Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    can I talk to any gm online now? who will discuss this issue with me
  • ali0342
    ali0342 Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    and what proofs should I submit with it?
  • skaitavia
    skaitavia Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Shoot Val a message, and he'll get back to you.
    [SIGPIC]Octavia is best pony![/SIGPIC]
    Need to talk to a pony?
    I'm watching you o.o
    Contact me! | Submit a Ticket | Forum Rules | My YouTube channel
  • ali0342
    ali0342 Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    just last question is it permenant ban?
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Sounds like a rotten deal from the start, usually serious manufacturing services will offer some sort of colateral. I'm sorry for whoever was trusting, naive, enough to allow this but this isn't even a scam, it's outright theft. I don't see much to discuss here and I'll be siding with the mods on this one, if this was done to you send a ticket. If you're on the other end give back the item, there's just no defending holding on to it.
  • Toomaga - Heavens Tear
    Toomaga - Heavens Tear Posts: 221 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Skaitavia wrote: »
    I have a strange feeling the original poster is wanting to make sure he's safe before he takes someone else's hard work for himself, based on how he's wording his replies..

    I think it would be more appropriate to just give the poster the benefit of the doubt, that his/her intentions of the question are positive.
  • KingCrash - Dreamweaver
    KingCrash - Dreamweaver Posts: 702 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Common sense is not so common anymore.
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    ali0342 wrote: »
    just last question is it permenant ban?

    When you report someone (scam or any other action against the TOS) they don't tell the punishment, so technically we cannot tell you if it's permanent or not.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    b:dirty "I **** rainbows and love everyone"-Longknife b:cute
  • skaitavia
    skaitavia Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Toomaga - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I think it would be more appropriate to just give the poster the benefit of the doubt, that his/her intentions of the question are positive.

    I have after his next few posts.

    And to the original poster, I would not know that information. When it comes to punishments, it's best to assume the worse. If not a permanent ban, then it will be a good while. If they have a past with temp bans, then there's a likely chance they'll be permanently banned if caught. If it is a report against someone, then you will not know the outcome of the ban. If it is you, you will find out yourself.
    [SIGPIC]Octavia is best pony![/SIGPIC]
    Need to talk to a pony?
    I'm watching you o.o
    Contact me! | Submit a Ticket | Forum Rules | My YouTube channel
  • ali0342
    ali0342 Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    ok thanks I have submitted ticket and throw a message to Val but he hasn't pmd me back yet
  • skaitavia
    skaitavia Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Val's most likely sleeping right now. He also has lots of work to do on his end, so there's little chance he'll reply instantly, unless you caught him at the right time.

    Give it time. He'll respond usually within 24 hours, unless it's a holiday.
    [SIGPIC]Octavia is best pony![/SIGPIC]
    Need to talk to a pony?
    I'm watching you o.o
    Contact me! | Submit a Ticket | Forum Rules | My YouTube channel
  • ali0342
    ali0342 Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    is it a holiday there too bcz according to my time zone its sunday hereb:sad
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    ali0342 wrote: »
    is it a holiday there too bcz according to my time zone its sunday hereb:sad

    it's 6am a Sunday now you did send your pm in the middle of the night, GM sleep too. Give him 24-48h, if still no answer try to pm again or send a ticket.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    b:dirty "I **** rainbows and love everyone"-Longknife b:cute
  • ali0342
    ali0342 Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    ohk didnt knew its 3.15 pm here
  • __Conn - Archosaur
    __Conn - Archosaur Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I swear u ask sooo many questions.
  • EbonyKitsune - Heavens Tear
    EbonyKitsune - Heavens Tear Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    questions never hurt. admittedly there are some questions that people would consider common sense but it may not be so common knowledge. i've seen scams happen in world chat a few times, even my faction leader got hit with a random dye service one. most people complain and forget to send in the ticket about the scam which is why there's so many still around. need to be careful and trust only select people with the stage 3 upgrading, like irl friends.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    BM: pwcalc.com/51cc5fb4332f4158
  • __Conn - Archosaur
    __Conn - Archosaur Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Im sorry, i jus thought the auestions were suspicious so yea..
    I guess i jumped to conclusions
  • kuroshoppe
    kuroshoppe Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I see ppl advertising best luck tokens but actually selling normal tokens for 4.8 mil. I haven't fallen for it, but almost did once and know ppl who have. There are a couple of variations on this scam but you get the picture. Selling stuff that has similar icons but aren't the same thing (like golden boxes for nightspike boxes etc)

    I am wondering if this counts as banable scamming or not. I'm not going to submit tickets or anything when I see ppl doing this but I might leave a msg with a warning, or go on wc to warn ppl off.
    One person doing this told me he just accidentally dragged the wrong tokens in his shop but I had seen his shop doing it for about a week so that's unlikely.

    I just seriously dislike it when ppl ruin someones day like that.

    As for manufacturing. I do that a lot for ppl on my veno. Never occurred to me to steal their stuff. I don't ask for anything other than whatever it costs me to make it.
    However I would not have someone else manufacture something expensive for me unless they're in my faction.
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    kuroshoppe wrote: »
    I see ppl advertising best luck tokens but actually selling normal tokens for 4.8 mil. I haven't fallen for it, but almost did once and know ppl who have. There are a couple of variations on this scam but you get the picture. Selling stuff that has similar icons but aren't the same thing (like golden boxes for nightspike boxes etc)

    I am wondering if this counts as banable scamming or not. I'm not going to submit tickets or anything when I see ppl doing this but I might leave a msg with a warning, or go on wc to warn ppl off.
    One person doing this told me he just accidentally dragged the wrong tokens in his shop but I had seen his shop doing it for about a week so that's unlikely.

    I just seriously dislike it when ppl ruin someones day like that.

    As for manufacturing. I do that a lot for ppl on my veno. Never occurred to me to steal their stuff. I don't ask for anything other than whatever it costs me to make it.
    However I would not have someone else manufacture something expensive for me unless they're in my faction.

    One of my friend told me that when he see a shop like that (pretending to sell something, but sell something else) and right click on the player and click report hacking, he told me that generally when he do it he don't see the shop for a while, but I personally don't know if it really work or not.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    b:dirty "I **** rainbows and love everyone"-Longknife b:cute
  • Nenor - Dreamweaver
    Nenor - Dreamweaver Posts: 534 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I know someone who followed a catshop ( advertising selling tokens or teles or somethiing for 9999, but were 999999 in the shop) with his shop alt all over arch for 2 or 3 days in a row, setting up right beside him with the title scammer and an arrow pointing at the offending shop.
    We had a good time with it in vent as he gave us the play by play.b:laugh
  • Cody_tylor - Sanctuary
    Cody_tylor - Sanctuary Posts: 248 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Skaitavia wrote: »
    I have a strange feeling the original poster is wanting to make sure he's safe before he takes someone else's hard work for himself, based on how he's wording his replies..

    +1... Besides, scamming is the norm anyway which is backwards since this company doesn't even follow their own TOS. It is just that people who scam in a moronic way would probably be banned for maybe 2-3 days or something if the reporter is lucky to get the scammer banned.
    WTB PWI 2008 where people were thinking more about doing good rather than pretending to be.

Categories