Is PVE shut down completely? Seems that PW is dumbed down really strong.

I personally do have more free time than before NW, I used it for stuff I always wanted to do, but didn't done cause no time. Like level my alts.

I think since now it's so easy to get good gears in a decent amount of time I would not be surprise that a lot of people level their alts or try new class.

People still do BH100, I think you exagerething by say people have nothing to do anymore, people still do BH, WS, Lunar and TT. (FC for people leveling alts)

PW is fine,just a mess of alts doing bhing rinse and repeat till NW,maybe throw in a base quest or Morai to change things up..run a few tt's to stock up the store.I feel IMO the reflection time is a waste of my time,bandwidth,power consumption so i rather jsut turn off the computer when done,since im not into exp anymore when reaching 101 on alts...5 measley points isnt gonna make or break me for the next lvl.

condo2009 wrote: »

pw is just fine? with alts? no new people, so can't be true.

There are new People but most quit before hitting lvl 80(like 95%) I would say.
The game is pretty much mains and alts and the occasional returning player (like me!)
Sad but trueb:surrender

Joe - Momaganon wrote: »

Profit from NW? Oh you gotta show me that one....I useally get between 200 and 400 tokens each NW...and even when I get 400 and would sell raps on my server for 45k each (35k minus the fee) that would be 35k x 400 = 14m coins^^ if you manage to sell it. Charms are now around 7m each and I useally need 1 charm and a bit more.

So if I'm in the winner nation and can sell 400 raps fast then I gain ~6m profit for 2 hours of work? lol thats ridiculous. if I'd just do tt in that time I'd get way more then that without the charm cost. Due to the massive price drop NW isn't even close a source of profit anymore, if you can farm way more effectivily in other locations

Here's the thing...PvE servers tend to have lower prices than PvP servers...and from what I know EU servers are basically dead...


Raps are still 350k-400k on Lost City.

Raps are around 200k at RT.

This isn't NW's fault. At least not in the PVE aspect. NW certainly shook up the economy (in not-necessarily-good ways), but this PVE problem existed long before NW.

PVE's public enemy #1 has been and will continue to be powerleveling. And powerleveling is only possible due to the devs' neglect in two areas: first, in failing to put a level requirement on FF (such as 75 or 80), and second, in making it possible to solo FF at all due to OP gear sets. As long as both of those things are true, there will be more unreasonable peer pressure to level quickly and thus fewer people partaking in the regular PVE game. Of course the devs have taken a few recent steps to make the old PVE quests more attractive, but clearly it hasn't done much good. :P

For what it's worth, Raps go for 375-400k on HT right now.

Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »

PVE's public enemy #1 has been and will continue to be powerleveling.

Agreed.

Used to be really easy to get lower-mid level squads for things. But now everyone would just rather jump into FF until 100+.

Joe - Momaganon wrote: »

Profit from NW? Oh you gotta show me that one....I useally get between 200 and 400 tokens each NW...and even when I get 400 and would sell raps on my server for 45k each (35k minus the fee) that would be 35k x 400 = 14m coins^^ if you manage to sell it. Charms are now around 7m each and I useally need 1 charm and a bit more.

So if I'm in the winner nation and can sell 400 raps fast then I gain ~6m profit for 2 hours of work? lol thats ridiculous. if I'd just do tt in that time I'd get way more then that without the charm cost. Due to the massive price drop NW isn't even close a source of profit anymore, if you can farm way more effectivily in other locations

It must be cause of your server, on HL it still 300k+ for the rapt, cannies are 65k.

b:surrender Rap prices are depends upon your servers population... i.e. if your on a dead server your going to have no luck selling something that is easily obtainable (because everyone has it so why the heck would they want to BUY more of it when they can get/have more of it)... more people = more people in nw= less token distribution= raps prices are higher b:thanks.

condo2009 wrote: »

pw is just fine? with alts? no new people, so can't be true.

No new players? Level 100+ always want to keep everything for them, NW is for 60-105 and they want to take off 60-99, high level players attitude make that we don't have a lot of new players. In game and on the forum.

CandyCorn - Raging Tide wrote: »

b:surrender Rap prices are depends upon your servers population... i.e. if your on a dead server your going to have no luck selling something that is easily obtainable (because everyone has it so why the heck would they want to BUY more of it when they can get/have more of it)... more people = more people in nw= less token distribution= raps prices are higher b:thanks.

are u guys having 400+ on pr nation? cos i could swear all servers was having around 270-320 pr nation in nw, last time i saw ss's o.o

Nry - Lost City wrote: »

Here's the thing...PvE servers tend to have lower prices than PvP servers...and from what I know EU servers are basically dead...


Raps are still 350k-400k on Lost City.

Same on HT~server (about 350K+ for raps)

Kwandelan - Heavens Tear wrote: »

This thread is useless. PvE died way before when people started powerlvling. NW had no effect on it; it was already dead.

Agreed, {PvE's} been on Near death (life support) since the introduction of the EG, sadly...b:thanks

I still prefer PvE, and still help those who enjoy PvE. I like questing, I like doing BH runs, but I mainly help those in the faction, only because there are far too many ungrateful twits on RT. Two examples...

Just the other day we did BH51 for a couple of people in the faction, including my alt, and decided to see if anyone else needed it. We picked up a couple more, and one of the randoms that joined when we reached the last boss and it only dropped coins, was expecting to get all the possible molds because she needed coins and that was the only reason she joined.

Seriously, and granted any molds from BH51 are worth a pittance, but to expect to be given everything of value is asinine. I am just glad nothing good dropped.

Secondly on a SoT quest, we did a faction run, and opened it up to three randoms to join and expressing it was an all boss run. Because I was on call, I had to wine it, and only needed one boss, but main reason we were going is faction member needed all but one boss for a quest. After the first boss the cleric and a sin promptly said "tks" and dropped the squad. Whispered them that it was a full boss run, like we initially stated, but they both said they didn't care. So in a nutshell, we completed it with a mystic, a sin, myself a BM, and a barb named Barbwired, who I personally wish to than for sticking around. Other than the sin who was lvl 96 I believe, we completed it and had a great time as a good team.

To finish, I enjoy questing, and if I join a squad that needs all bosses in something, even if I only meed one, I stay until the end, because it could have been me that needed the help on all bosses.

FC really did put a dampener on how people interact, and how well people play their characters. And as a whole higher levels tend to be more focused on "me" and what can I do for "me" while forgetting this is a MMO meaning multiplayer.

i've been wondering why i continue to play this game after doing my first fc heads. i got more than 30% at Level 83 in was not even a minute i think? before that i've done all the quests possible so there is really nothing for me to do except daily bh which on my dead server is hard to do unless its a faction run which isn't any easier cause sometimes theres not enough players on or who need it to join.

and this seemingly 24-7 2x has greatly diminished my chances at actually making coin. its funny because you see catshops and ah full and full of mats but no one is buying them unless their dirt cheapER.

i wonder at what level do new players decide to call it quits.

NW introduced profitability to PvP, but for a specific 4 hours a week at 2 intervals and requiring participation for a full 2 hours.

I'm still making much more in other ways w/o buying and selling.