So what make us wizards mad?

MasterPerian - Lost City
MasterPerian - Lost City Posts: 275 Arc User
edited January 2013 in Wizard
decided to post one too because there hasn't been one about wizards yet. b:victory
What can you expect from filthy little heathens? Their whole disgusting race is like a curse. Their skin's a hellish red they're only good when dead they're vermin, as I said and worse. They're Savages! Savages! Barely even human. Savages! Savages! Drive them from our shore! They're not like you and me
which means they must be evil we must sound the drums of war! They're Savages! Savages! Dirty redskin devils! Now we sound the drums of war!
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  • Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver
    Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver Posts: 756 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Squishyness and slow casting. That's why I stopped mine at 64.
  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited December 2012
    moved to wizard subforum

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  • FayHumming - Dreamweaver
    FayHumming - Dreamweaver Posts: 325 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    b:chuckle slow casting and need alot chi
    the survival of the fittest

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  • Nurfed_You - Harshlands
    Nurfed_You - Harshlands Posts: 754 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Lack of reliable cc that doesnt take 2 sparks and 6 seconds to cast
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  • Watter - Lost City
    Watter - Lost City Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Lack of chi (I started a sin, sins have like FRIGGIN INFINITE CHI)
    Lack of CC... the other classes get a lot more.
    LONG CHANNEL. Just holy f.ck!
    We're not the hardest hitting class anymore. I know that's not new, but it bugs me a LOT :/
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Watter - Lost City wrote: »
    Lack of chi (I started a sin, sins have like FRIGGIN INFINITE CHI)
    Lack of CC... the other classes get a lot more.
    LONG CHANNEL. Just holy f.ck!
    We're not the hardest hitting class anymore. I know that's not new, but it bugs me a LOT :/

    You really can't complain about hitting hard with undine and spark..
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  • FaceRolI - Sanctuary
    FaceRolI - Sanctuary Posts: 450 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    virulent psn, dissolve, mantle, mo zhun

    anti stun

    and slow casting, takes forever D:
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  • Spell_Caster - Raging Tide
    Spell_Caster - Raging Tide Posts: 2,216 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    30 seconds sleep from clerics...
    15 seconds seal of god
    proc rate of R9 bow...
    glitches when we use distance shrink on uneven terrain
    chi...
    no purge on any skills...qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq-wish undine had a tiny chance to purge...
    lvl 100 crapppppppppppy skills compared with the other classes
    epic fail - ice prison skill and its usability...
    If someone hates you for no reason, then give that **** a reason!b:chuckle
  • U_Sasuke - Sanctuary
    U_Sasuke - Sanctuary Posts: 643 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    uh i only wished our sleep was 30 meters range too that's about it. i think wizard class is pretty sold and most op'd r9rr, probably top 1 class in pvp overall jejejeje. i know some of u guys are going to say 'how about reduce the cooldown on sleep and stuff'. but i think that would be pretty op if they reduced the cooldown on our sleep lol
  • FaceRolI - Sanctuary
    FaceRolI - Sanctuary Posts: 450 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Spell_Caster - Raging Tide wrote: »
    no purge on any skills...qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq-wish undine had a tiny chance to purge...
    l

    wen vs ppl who are very hard to kill but cant really kill you that well either. kite + eruption fist from longevity :D
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  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    FaceRolI - Sanctuary wrote: »
    wen vs ppl who are very hard to kill but cant really kill you that well either. kite + eruption fist from longevity :D

    Their buffs probably run out by the time it procs.
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    U_Sasuke - Sanctuary wrote: »
    uh i only wished our sleep was 30 second range too that's about it. i think wizard class is pretty sold and most op'd r9rr, probably top 1 class in pvp overall jejejeje. i know some of u guys are going to say 'how about reduce the cooldown on sleep and stuff'. but i think that would be pretty op if they reduced the cooldown on our sleep lol

    actually totally agree with this
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  • BurnWhenIWiz - Heavens Tear
    BurnWhenIWiz - Heavens Tear Posts: 289 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Skill wise, not many changes I'd like to see. Yeah, there's a long wishlist, but in order to not completely throw off balance...

    Elemental Shell: Change it to just Shell, and add in pdef and wood dmg (always wondered why it wasn't in there anyway) to it. Increase it's duration to 7 or 10 seconds.

    Force of Will: Make it a stun as well as a seal. We're one of the few ranged classes that has no max range stun. Think this is similar to wanting an increased range on whisper. Can't remember if venos have one.

    As far as what makes me mad in squads?

    People who yell at me for using FOW/Phoenix on a mob. If you can't hold aggro off me as a melee class, then I'm going to tank it how I tank it. That means trying to keep distance from physical mobs.

    Caster classes who bellyache for Frostblade. If you tell me it's just because you want a glowy hand, I'll go ahead, but I'm not going to perpetuate the myth that it's going to increase a psy's water damage.

    Game mechanics wise..

    Hate when a target dies mid cast, and the skill still channels, and now I've lost chi, and have a cooldown to wait through. Liked it better when the skill would just cancel if the target died.
  • RyougiShiki - Raging Tide
    RyougiShiki - Raging Tide Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    30m undine/spark
    no chi cost for stone barrier/acrane defense
    purge skill. or remake all purge skills to only randomly clean up to 3-5 buffs.b:kiss
  • Skite - Lost City
    Skite - Lost City Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    What makes me mad? Random bloody red archers. b:surrender
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  • AshenSkies - Heavens Tear
    AshenSkies - Heavens Tear Posts: 949 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    BurnWhenIWiz - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Hate when a target dies mid cast, and the skill still channels, and now I've lost chi, and have a cooldown to wait through. Liked it better when the skill would just cancel if the target died.

    This happens to me ALL the FRICKIN time in TW!b:cry
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  • MasterPerian - Lost City
    MasterPerian - Lost City Posts: 275 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    BurnWhenIWiz - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Hate when a target dies mid cast, and the skill still channels, and now I've lost chi, and have a cooldown to wait through. Liked it better when the skill would just cancel if the target died.

    Me too.
    What can you expect from filthy little heathens? Their whole disgusting race is like a curse. Their skin's a hellish red they're only good when dead they're vermin, as I said and worse. They're Savages! Savages! Barely even human. Savages! Savages! Drive them from our shore! They're not like you and me
    which means they must be evil we must sound the drums of war! They're Savages! Savages! Dirty redskin devils! Now we sound the drums of war!
  • Lelouchvi_ - Sanctuary
    Lelouchvi_ - Sanctuary Posts: 141 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    When I win a duel using Spatial reversion and they go '' wow laggg''. Makes me laugh b:laugh

    I hate when I use distance shrink against melee class and they complain that i run -_-
    you want me to just sit there and let you stun me b:angry
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  • Fissile - Archosaur
    Fissile - Archosaur Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Archers
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  • Facerolled - Raging Tide
    Facerolled - Raging Tide Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    lack of GoF.
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  • Irca - Harshlands
    Irca - Harshlands Posts: 186 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Fissile - Archosaur wrote: »
    Archers

    quoted for truth. I hate archers. Used to hate sins but ever since I acquired arcane defense I giggle every time I bounce away and the sin starts raging that i cheated and how op skill is op. Hey it takes me a spark and a half to buff myself with my own buffs (another thing that aggrivates me) It's nice to finally have a skill that annoys sins like they annoy me :-)
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  • Walpurga - Dreamweaver
    Walpurga - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,028 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    The fact that my level 45 wizard loses to a level 38 noob psy because by the time I channel gush I've been hit twice, by the time pyrogram finishes coming out that's 2, 3 more hits

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    Also jelly for nature's grace/metabolic boost, jelly for purge, GoF/SS, stuns, more non-spark aoes, jelly for bladed fervor, wtb> a channeling buff that's not frigging 6 seconds for 200 chi
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  • MageFizban - Lost City
    MageFizban - Lost City Posts: 1,158 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Facerolled - Raging Tide wrote: »
    lack of GoF.

    i can't even begin to imagine zerkcrit spark BTs...
  • BurnWhenIWiz - Heavens Tear
    BurnWhenIWiz - Heavens Tear Posts: 289 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    MageFizban - Lost City wrote: »
    i can't even begin to imagine zerkcrit spark BTs...

    I can... and it's glorious.
  • taringa181
    taringa181 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    what makes wizzie mad mhhh

    a purged wizard is a free kill wizard... even if full josd+12etchetch, moreover if purged by archers... in the time u rebuff urself (if u are lucky and have enough chi), the next 2-3 after-purge-archer-autoatks can kill anywiz

    no CC, no anti CC at all, lvl 100 skills are useless, morai advanced skills are almost useless or just they dont work, channelling is freaking long...

    being an arcane....in the time a wizard casts his 2 spark aoe stun, a psi aoe stunned 3 times, a veno paralyzed and sealed u 2 times or puffbirded u 3 times, cleric and mystics sleeps or freezee dont even know how many times... b:angry

    and wiz cant sustain damage...
    all the other classes have something to sustain damage:

    BM: marrows, and so many CCs that can really be considered as aid to sustain damage
    ARCH: wog, demon wingspan, winged shell, condor
    CLER: plume shell, various morai shields
    BARB: invoke, demon roar, genie skills and new panda skill 40 def lvls etch
    VENO: bramble hood, hp mp switch, bramble
    SIN: DN, TP, FM, death chain
    PSY: all the souls (not purgeable), voodoos, soulburn, untargetable thing\spirit phalanx, psy will
    SEEKER: 40 free def lvls, SS qpq
    MYSTIC: even useless mystics has few shields nature barrier verdant shell

    what wizard has: demon stone barrier (purgeable)
  • Mooooooooo - Lost City
    Mooooooooo - Lost City Posts: 377 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    taringa181 wrote: »
    what makes wizzie mad mhhh

    a purged wizard is a free kill wizard... even if full josd+12etchetch, moreover if purged by archers... in the time u rebuff urself (if u are lucky and have enough chi), the next 2-3 after-purge-archer-autoatks can kill anywiz

    no CC, no anti CC at all, lvl 100 skills are useless, morai advanced skills are almost useless or just they dont work, channelling is freaking long...

    being an arcane....in the time a wizard casts his 2 spark aoe stun, a psi aoe stunned 3 times, a veno paralyzed and sealed u 2 times or puffbirded u 3 times, cleric and mystics sleeps or freezee dont even know how many times... b:angry

    and wiz cant sustain damage...

    wut, if I'm purged, 3rd cast +12 archers still hit about 2k non crit only.

    yeah no reliable cc other than seal, but having the highest burst damage of all the classes more than make up for it.
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  • taringa181
    taringa181 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Mooooooooo - Lost City wrote: »
    wut, if I'm purged, 3rd cast +12 archers still hit about 2k non crit only.

    yeah no reliable cc other than seal, but having the highest burst damage of all the classes more than make up for it.

    eheheh you make an exception.. you are 98 def lvl base w\o omalley and with 22k phys def eventually...
    one thing i wanted to ask you... youd rather drop matchless2 and helm for chann ones?
    how is chann with ur gear setup and sky cover? decent enough?
  • Mooooooooo - Lost City
    Mooooooooo - Lost City Posts: 377 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I only use channel when I don't need to tank or when I want to dps for a short time
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  • taringa181
    taringa181 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    anyway, in my opinion wizard barriers improvement, as suggested by wainmei in their chinese thread, werent that op if we consider actual endgame scenario... indeed wizards should need at least barrier skills revamp...
    i am sure none of us has those fire\ice barrier in their hotkeys :D

    wizard burst is best, but we cant rely on just that, anyone that is under spark status can just press ig sutra ad soul of fire and then we are under long cds\ w\o chi \ long chann, not considering that anyone can also easily control a wiz as soon as he 3sparks or undine sparks...

    and i rather "sneak" manifest virtue instead of spark cause if i use any 1-2-3spark i get insta cced just everytime
  • Facerolled - Raging Tide
    Facerolled - Raging Tide Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    lol at everyone who is being serious in the thread. Wizard and seekers are the OP classes at endgame. If you need other skills, learn to play.
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