Would you like to change cultivation without need the sage/demon culti?

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
edited December 2012 in General Discussion
Would you like to be able to change cultivation without need to be Celestial sage/demon?

I'm just curious to know if I'm the only one that wish to change culti on a char that don't have the culti done.
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  • skaitavia
    skaitavia Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Personally I'd say no, due to the reason that it should be a "rite of passage" everyone must go through if they want to switch culti's. Plus, you really are given one choice, and you'd have to be very sure of your playstyle before choosing between the two. Like for myself, I still haven't chosen a culti for my veno because I'm still not sure which one to go to.

    Plus, it'd mean there'd be less incentive to complete that part of the game. The only reward at the end is the ability to change cultivations, a couple 100 skills, and the final genie form. Other than that there's no real reason to finish the culti. Leaving less options would make people avoid it more in my opinion.
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I know and agree with what you said, but many people don't have the culti they wanted cause talked to the wrong npc by mistake. Some wasn't sure and didn't know really what it was and followed people advices and found out later that wasn't what they want (my case on veno, that was my first toon and wasn't sure about the difference everyone told me demon was better and told me sage suck, but now I realize that I would have prefer be sage), some people don't realize the importance the culti choice.

    I'm probably sure that majority of people doing full culti do it for the lvl 100 skills and third fairy, or for money before, I've personally never heard someone said wanted full culti for change it, I even saw people restart a new char cause that was more easy to level a new char than do full culti.

    It took me months to be able to get the full GV part on my mystic, I've never found squads to do it on my other chars, on veno I'm stuck on the TT part.

    Plus they would sell a lot much more Celestial schism mold.
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  • seitori
    seitori Posts: 1,328 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    It would likely help those who did accidentally end up choosing the wrong 1....


    But it should be an option only for those who didn't decide too press on in the cultivation stages of {Demon or Sage} or in other words ~ only when one initially chooses the stage by accident (and if you chose too carry on in furthering its cultivation stages, you'd be stuck with it until you reach the needed level for the original change, just like you are right now)...b:victory
  • mogwai
    mogwai Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    sorry, i vote no

    Thats just the way the game was made. Kinda agree to it before ever playing by reading the Game Info.
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  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    No, you can change after you reach celestial, this game is already too noob friendly when it comes to cultivation, they made it even EASIER than before.
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary wrote: »
    No, you can change after you reach celestial, this game is already too noob friendly when it comes to cultivation, they made it even EASIER than before.

    They made easier what was already easy, the low level culti. the 89-100 culti didn't change.
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  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »
    They made easier what was already easy, the low level culti. the 89-100 culti didn't change.

    The hardest part of high level culti did change, cube no longer requires room 38, just speak to an NPC in the 1st room.
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    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary wrote: »
    The hardest part of high level culti did change, cube no longer requires room 38, just speak to an NPC in the 1st room.

    That was the easiest part...
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  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »
    That was the easiest part...

    I wouldn`t call luck easy, I was lucky though, took me only 3-4 days to get there, was skipping that room all the time, it`s quite a thorn in the side.
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I understand where you're coming from and do feel bad for those who choose the wrong culti for whatever reason but I'll have to vote no as well for the same reasons as Skai b:surrender
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  • KingClawX - Lost City
    KingClawX - Lost City Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »
    Would you like to be able to change cultivation without need to be Celestial sage/demon?

    I'm just curious to know if I'm the only one that wish to change culti on a char that don't have the culti done.


    sorry but that is the last piece wish show dedication proof you completed it.
    for my other barb it took me a year to complete just cos i wanted to switch his path from demon to sage.

    100 skill is a bonus and the show of full feiry to.

    just cos u dont get help one day dont mean you cant find help day after.

    i hate ppl who want everything today today today.
  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    KingClawX - Lost City wrote: »
    sorry but that is the last piece wish show dedication proof you completed it.
    for my other barb it took me a year to complete just cos i wanted to switch his path from demon to sage.

    100 skill is a bonus and the show of full feiry to.

    just cos u dont get help one day dont mean you cant find help day after.

    i hate ppl who want everything today today today.

    I spend more than 1 year to try to complete the GV part on my both clerics and still not done. I don't know for you, but for me more than a year is really patient and now it's even more than a year, I just give up, I wont pass 3 years just for stupid GV to get culti done. So I just stopped to play a char that I would play if I had the culti I like.

    Sorry if for you over a year is consider as be impatient.
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  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Nope. Because I myself put a lot of thought on which path to choose and I don't understand people who don't do that. Changing is aleady easy enough, and I'm even partial on that. Imo culti is just something yoiu should pick very very carefully.
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited December 2012
    Voting no like Skai as well.


    The NPCs themselves even warn you multiple times that once you pick the decision it can't be reverted. For something as important as your cultivation, going to the wrong one is no excuse since you shouldn't be ignoring it to the point where you spam click through the texts anyway.

    At BEST allowing someone who has completed 89 culti to go back to their 79 cultivation as long as they have not learned any of their skills and have not advanced past that stage (though at a higher cost than for our current swap) is something I can see someone potentially convincing me to accept. Aside from that, however? Nope.
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  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited December 2012
    Gonna vote no on this as well. What is the point if it's not difficult? I suggest yelling at your faction to help you with this, a year is too long to put you off....

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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    oVenusArmanio wrote: »
    Gonna vote no on this as well. What is the point if it's not difficult? I suggest yelling at your faction to help you with this, a year is too long to put you off....

    Haha I did, people don't wanna help, I got all excuses in the world to don't get help, best one ''We wont help you cause you are married''. Spend months and months wc try to make squad without success.

    Oh well I wanted people opinion, but my question was more for people that didn't done culti and regret their choice and majority of people that voted no are people that are done with culti.
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  • ovenusarmanio
    ovenusarmanio Posts: 6,695 Community Moderator
    edited December 2012
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »
    Haha I did, people don't wanna help, I got all excuses in the world to don't get help, best one ''We wont help you cause you are married''. Spend months and months wc try to make squad without success.

    Oh well I wanted people opinion, but my question was more for people that didn't done culti and regret their choice and majority of people that voted no are people that are done with culti.

    I'm not done with culti. And if I were on your server I'd help you. b:sad That's the sorriest excuse ever!

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    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    oVenusArmanio wrote: »
    I'm not done with culti. And if I were on your server I'd help you. b:sad That's the sorriest excuse ever!

    Well for our chars on HT we will be able to do it together. =D

    (HT more helpful than HL so far, maybe cause HT is a PvE server)
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  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited December 2012
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »
    Haha I did, people don't wanna help, I got all excuses in the world to don't get help, best one ''We wont help you cause you are married''. Spend months and months wc try to make squad without success.

    Oh well I wanted people opinion, but my question was more for people that didn't done culti and regret their choice and majority of people that voted no are people that are done with culti.

    ... Your faction is evil. I'd say I hope you treat them in kind for that, but you're too nice most of the time so you probably don't even if they kinda deserve it.
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    OPKossy wrote: »
    ... Your faction is evil. I'd say I hope you treat them in kind for that, but you're too nice most of the time so you probably don't even if they kinda deserve it.

    Well majority of TW factions are not specially ''helpful'', but I love TW. :x
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  • Mitachi - Dreamweaver
    Mitachi - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    No. It specifically says in CAPS YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RECHOOSE THINK CAREFULLY. I don't mind it when people dont read the quest stories, but culti i think you must read.
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  • TehMage - Lost City
    TehMage - Lost City Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Honestly, when I want to know something as far as cultivation. I go look for myself.

    Cultivation for each class is so different and what "people" suggest is more based on their own experience and liking. I personally like veno to be demon too, but like you already said that wasn't the path for you.

    It's already been said, choosing the path at the npc warns you several times. The best way to see which path is for you is to look at the lvl 11 skills on ecatomb.net.

    I voted no. b:bye
  • Alsiadorra - Sanctuary
    Alsiadorra - Sanctuary Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    mmmm the process seems complicating/expensive, so it seems only fair to make it so that you're not either sage/demon(culti 100).
  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »
    Well majority of TW factions are not specially ''helpful'', but I love TW. :x

    Quite the opposite actually, speaking for my faction. They're very helpful, we even got an officer for cultivation and quest help who will make sure you get it done. And especially for delta, we always seem to have more people than one squad. lol]
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  • Annalyse - Heavens Tear
    Annalyse - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,618 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    So far I have five characters that have done the 100 culti, and two more that are close. I didn't find it that hard. A good faction really helps (got a lot of my RBs done with fac/friends) but I've never had too much of a problem making RB squads on RB BH days either.

    Like other people have pointed out, there really is no reason to accidentally make the wrong choice when the NPC tells you in capital letters that you need to think it over, because once you choose you can't go back. So stop, take a moment, decide which skillset you like best or whatever, then look carefully at the NPCs. And for the people that just change their minds (which happens) about what they chose later... I see no problem in making them work for it. They never used to even offer this so be glad you have to option now.

    Also... sounds like you are in the wrong faction if they behave like that. Surely there are other factions that TW on your server?
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  • SunDownXIII - Dreamweaver
    SunDownXIII - Dreamweaver Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I for one would like to switch from demon to sage on my Seeker. But I still believe we should go thru the culti first... I decided to pick demon... Wasn't a mistake... And I don't see how people say it talked to the wrong npc. It clearly tells you and confirms your decision. No reason to change it if some people can't read.
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  • Tsyren - Archosaur
    Tsyren - Archosaur Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I personally think that the Celestial Cultivation is a factor for making people do more research into their future choice, and so it should be necessary.

    We've already gotten too many changes that have upturned old systems - NW upturning Nv, etc.

    Personally it took me almost a week to choose what I would do - Demon for farming, then Sage for PvP.
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  • Sweet_Desire - Raging Tide
    Sweet_Desire - Raging Tide Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I don't know how could someone be so blind to choose the wrong cultivation o.o
  • _Nushi_ - Raging Tide
    _Nushi_ - Raging Tide Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Definitely NO!

    This are the few remaining challenging part of the game that you would consider a self-rewarding once you have done it successfully.

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  • Salari - Raging Tide
    Salari - Raging Tide Posts: 2,102 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I say no, if you cant read you shouldnt playb:chuckle
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