Would you like to change cultivation without need the sage/demon culti?

thegreatgargame

I tried to do delta w4 part of culti for a month after I turned 100.. PMed every squad in wc, asked in fact, asked friends if they could go with me.. I'm against forming squads if I haven't done an instance before. I think that people should have a squad leader that know what to do, not one that have no clue at all.
Didn't get it done. So I stopped trying.. I turned 100 almost 2 years ago. Did my first BH w2 like 2 months ago. Still haven't done BH w3.
Forever alone?
Either way, I vote yes... b:sad

Haila - Sanctuary

Seeing the coin drops being removed from delta it will be even harder to get help now, so its not a bad request if u ask me ......

ColdEP - Harshlands

Voted no. Reason have been said many times so dont wanna repeat.

And bella hun if you need help just ask me i love to do culti doesnt matter which part TT delta you name it im there.b:pleased

I would like to know for what reason coins was removed from delta. ( Not sure if im asking something thats already been answerd)b:surrender

Desdi - Sanctuary

ColdEP - Harshlands wrote: »

I would like to know for what reason coins was removed from delta. ( Not sure if im asking something thats already been answerd)b:surrender

What we know is that PWCN had botters or people soloing Delta for the coin profit. Not sure what's true or false though.

Ridelia - Momaganon

I am not voting for culti 89-100 change itself. I just want a oportunity to open all lvls of chrono without doing LOTS of "chrono culti" quests. It would be far easier (and it would be rewarding for PWI too) if we could buy an item that open all OHT lvls without doing the chrono culti quest chain. I think the choice between paying 20 gold or doing the quest chain would be good for everyone. Alternatively they would make the chrono quest shorter - removing some of the bosses.

Culti 89, 99 and 100 are not a problem. The chrono culti chain quest is.b:shocked

ovenusarmanio

Ridelia - Momaganon wrote: »

I am not voting for culti 89-100 change itself. I just want a oportunity to open all lvls of chrono without doing LOTS of "chrono culti" quests. It would be far easier (and it would be rewarding for PWI too) if we could buy an item that open all OHT lvls without doing the chrono culti quest chain. I think the choice between paying 20 gold or doing the quest chain would be good for everyone. Alternatively they would make the chrono quest shorter - removing some of the bosses.

Culti 89, 99 and 100 are not a problem. The chrono culti chain quest is.b:shocked

I very strongly object to this. In fact, I do not think it is possible for me to disagree more with this statement. The chrono culti and 100 skills are a reward for players willing to put in the effort to do all their culti quests even the ones that might not be as important. The ones that are persistent and maybe even willing to risk doing long hard things with completely random people (in the case ofppl who don't have fac/friends that will help) just so they can finish it and get their quest reward. Which are the third fairy, 100 skills, and the ability to change their culti. You shouldn't be able to buy the benefits of doing quests, there should be some things that are only rewarded for completing your quests. And the chrono culti and 100 culti are the grand championship rounds for all questing. Few quests are as difficult, as frustrating, or as fun, rewarding, and as satisfying as it. It's one of the few things that anyone can do that cannot be bought and is worth bragging about.

Desdi - Sanctuary

oVenusArmanio wrote: »

I very strongly object to this. In fact, I do not think it is possible for me to disagree more with this statement. The chrono culti and 100 skills are a reward for players willing to put in the effort to do all their culti quests even the ones that might not be as important. The ones that are persistent and maybe even willing to risk doing long hard things with completely random people (in the case ofppl who don't have fac/friends that will help) just so they can finish it and get their quest reward. Which are the third fairy, 100 skills, and the ability to change their culti. You shouldn't be able to buy the benefits of doing quests, there should be some things that are only rewarded for completing your quests. And the chrono culti and 100 culti are the grand championship rounds for all questing. Few quests are as difficult, as frustrating, or as fun, rewarding, and as satisfying as it. It's one of the few things that anyone can do that cannot be bought and is worth bragging about.

+ infinity! I couldn't agree more with this. b:dirty

Jaabg - Sanctuary

thegreatgargame wrote: »

I tried to do delta w4 part of culti for a month after I turned 100.. PMed every squad in wc, asked in fact, asked friends if they could go with me.. I'm against forming squads if I haven't done an instance before. I think that people should have a squad leader that know what to do, not one that have no clue at all.
Didn't get it done. So I stopped trying.. I turned 100 almost 2 years ago. Did my first BH w2 like 2 months ago. Still haven't done BH w3.
Forever alone?
Either way, I vote yes... b:sad

Sadly it seems you are forever alone b:cry. Next time there is a full delta squad in world chat, go for it.

Ridelia - Momaganon wrote: »

I am not voting for culti 89-100 change itself. I just want a oportunity to open all lvls of chrono without doing LOTS of "chrono culti" quests. It would be far easier (and it would be rewarding for PWI too) if we could buy an item that open all OHT lvls without doing the chrono culti quest chain. I think the choice between paying 20 gold or doing the quest chain would be good for everyone. Alternatively they would make the chrono quest shorter - removing some of the bosses.

Culti 89, 99 and 100 are not a problem. The chrono culti chain quest is.b:shocked

Have you ever taken the time to read the quest chain? In other games there are videos, music, someone else narrating things, so most people don't read. The chrono quest is amazing to read.

ColdEP - Harshlands wrote: »

I would like to know for what reason coins was removed from delta. ( Not sure if im asking something thats already been answerd)b:surrender

I posted a poll about it, 105 said yes, 3 were against, 97% in favour. Still no word on it.

Annalyse - Heavens Tear

oVenusArmanio wrote: »

I very strongly object to this. In fact, I do not think it is possible for me to disagree more with this statement. The chrono culti and 100 skills are a reward for players willing to put in the effort to do all their culti quests even the ones that might not be as important. The ones that are persistent and maybe even willing to risk doing long hard things with completely random people (in the case ofppl who don't have fac/friends that will help) just so they can finish it and get their quest reward. Which are the third fairy, 100 skills, and the ability to change their culti. You shouldn't be able to buy the benefits of doing quests, there should be some things that are only rewarded for completing your quests. And the chrono culti and 100 culti are the grand championship rounds for all questing. Few quests are as difficult, as frustrating, or as fun, rewarding, and as satisfying as it. It's one of the few things that anyone can do that cannot be bought and is worth bragging about.

Agree 100%

opkossy

oVenusArmanio wrote: »

I very strongly object to this. In fact, I do not think it is possible for me to disagree more with this statement. The chrono culti and 100 skills are a reward for players willing to put in the effort to do all their culti quests even the ones that might not be as important. The ones that are persistent and maybe even willing to risk doing long hard things with completely random people (in the case ofppl who don't have fac/friends that will help) just so they can finish it and get their quest reward. Which are the third fairy, 100 skills, and the ability to change their culti. You shouldn't be able to buy the benefits of doing quests, there should be some things that are only rewarded for completing your quests. And the chrono culti and 100 culti are the grand championship rounds for all questing. Few quests are as difficult, as frustrating, or as fun, rewarding, and as satisfying as it. It's one of the few things that anyone can do that cannot be bought and is worth bragging about.

I want to sticky this post so badly. Well said, Venus. Well said.

Xainou - Sanctuary

Ridelia - Momaganon wrote: »

Culti 89, 99 and 100 are not a problem. The chrono culti chain quest is.b:shocked

Hell, no. We don't need to nerf yet another thing for the lazy/cash shoppers. Seriously, isn't this game bull**** easy enough already?

Veneir - Dreamweaver

+a billion to Venus' post again; Venus, you're very popular xD *gives cookies*

While it would be nice to switch for people who decide they want to change and have to go for forever not learning the wrong culti's skills aka wait until 100 until they can start learning their new skillbooks they kept *obsesses over collecting all the skills/saging all of mine so this stands out to me*, or other many factours...

...it would still seem to lower the significance of choosing to ally(er taking into account the skills of) with demons or sages, and slash or take away one of the few incentives for 100 culti(especially before the patch when 100 skills, frankily, were kinda horrible xD). So this is one of the 'game mechanics' I'd say to leave a morale-ish like thing to.

Betrayal quests are normally one of the hardest questlines in a game, anyway x3

For the accidentally taking the wrong culti thing, however, there could be a better indicatour/the NPC yelling at you/a red note in the quest log on all the quest parts that this is 'sage' or 'demon' that you're choosing to prevent that. xD

Ridelia - Momaganon

Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »

Hell, no. We don't need to nerf yet another thing for the lazy/cash shoppers. Seriously, isn't this game bull**** easy enough already?

I am not a catshoper and I am not lazy - I just think the chrono quest chain is way too long. I am doing it 2 months already and I am at:

Kill Cosmoforce: Substancia inside TT 2-1 squad mode.
Kill General Wurlord: Naught inside TT 2-2 squad mode.
Kill General Feng: Naught inside TT 2-2 squad mode.
Kill Soulripper: Null inside TT 2-3 squad mode.

part (I have over half of the quest chain behind me).
Later on there will be Abbadon, Delta W5, lots of npcs and bosses in past, another TT, 1 more Abaddon ! , SoT and finally one more ! Delta W 7, 8 and 10.
Tell me only lazy people won't be motivated enough to do it. I would rather grind coins and buy gold from cashshopers than do all of this. Grinding as also work not for lazy people. Not everyone has R9 friends and a awesome, really helpful guild that can help at any time. I was waiting 3 weeks for help with Delta W4 recently and after all we had to do it without any seeker so it was pain.

Desdi - Sanctuary

Ridelia - Momaganon wrote: »

I am not a catshoper and I am not lazy - I just think the chrono quest chain is way too long. I am doing it 2 months already and I am at:

I don't know...I find chrono + culti's chain to be just about perfect. I've done it for three toons already and got a 4th one waiting, simply because I enjoy the quest line.

Ye, it can be extremely frustrating and annoying but I actually love it the way it is. It's one of the few challenges left in game and one of the few things money can't buy.

Not everyone has R9 friends and a awesome, really helpful guild that can help at any time. I was waiting 3 weeks for help with Delta W4 recently and after all we had to do it without any seeker so it was pain.

You don't really need R9 people to do it. People did chrono and deltas before R9 was released. Things are just faster nowadays if you get top geared people in your squad but it's not impossible to do.

As for the faction...well if your faction isn't really all that helpful and doesn't care to dedicate at least a day of the week to help out with chrono...perhaps that's not a good faction to be in?

I did part of my chrono/culti quest once a week. We'd make the schedule, ask other people who needed it and establish a day every week to do it so it actually took me a while to complete chrono on all toons but it was something to work on and be proud of.

Salari - Raging Tide

took over 6 months for me to complete my culti on my sin and i still say no. It does not take R9 much less needing a seeker to run full delta.

Knownase - Heavens Tear

Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary wrote: »

I wouldn`t call luck easy, I was lucky though, took me only 3-4 days to get there, was skipping that room all the time, it`s quite a thorn in the side.

This, that part was purely luck, no matter what gear/skills you had.

SMASHnHEAL - Dreamweaver

Ridelia - Momaganon wrote: »

Not everyone has R9 friends and a awesome, really helpful guild that can help at any time. I was waiting 3 weeks for help with Delta W4 recently and after all we had to do it without any seeker so it was pain.

Man am I glad that I finished my culti long before R9s were a common thing. The culti chain does not need to be changed, it sounds like people still want to pay their way through the game rather than play the game like it was intended.

And really, complaining about delta being a pain without a seeker? These days you can do delta with your eyes closed with any squad set up. If you are finding it such a pain go give it a go with a squad all below level 100 using TT90 gear having to dig the chests, run the tickets and set up auras to get you through. This game had lost all challenges and you still want it easier.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

Haila - Sanctuary wrote: »

Seeing the coin drops being removed from delta it will be even harder to get help now, so its not a bad request if u ask me ......

^ That too, full GV is almost 3hours, now that people don't get money less will help cause the repair bill is insane after a full GV.

Ridelia - Momaganon wrote: »

I am not voting for culti 89-100 change itself. I just want a oportunity to open all lvls of chrono without doing LOTS of "chrono culti" quests. It would be far easier (and it would be rewarding for PWI too) if we could buy an item that open all OHT lvls without doing the chrono culti quest chain. I think the choice between paying 20 gold or doing the quest chain would be good for everyone. Alternatively they would make the chrono quest shorter - removing some of the bosses.

Culti 89, 99 and 100 are not a problem. The chrono culti chain quest is.b:shocked

No I disagree with you, nothing should be remove by paying money, we are not a private server.

I suggested a while ago to remove one full GV only, but that's all nothing else should be remove or shorter than it is now (and now with no money anymore in GV i think it would not be a bad idea) and 95% of people didn't agree with me, but your suggestion is ridiculous.

Except the GV thing, my point is not to change culti quest at all here, cause even if someone switch from demon to sage or vice versa before be Celestial sage/demon they would need to continue culti cause skills level 11 that can be learn at level 89,92 and 99 and requisite different cultivations (well for the level 89 and 99).

I must admit I'm surprise, I was sure more people would vote yes than no, it's ok, I'm just surprise. xD

Thank all for the comments.