Why does HH still has the 4 player squad requeriment?

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  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited November 2012
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    RexNero - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    If are talking with me can confirm i can solo every boss in game with a random of my toon but not for this is a reason for delete squad mode from TT many ppl can't solo it btw my underline was only becouse who start this topic for me not is real interested if TT is solo or squad mode but only to wish say "Hey guys i can solo TT" Someone think to be the only OP on this game there are full of OP ppl like there is who need help.

    So can close this topic pointless for me.

    PS can i ask to remove PAV def from WS waste only my time.....b:bye

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  • FlyRanger - Dreamweaver
    FlyRanger - Dreamweaver Posts: 263 Arc User
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    RexNero - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    i can solo every boss in game

    You cant solo 15-mins-after-boss in Delta :P

    PS: even if u make TT w/ element\phys immune bosses, I still will be able to solo it. Same as I can solo casters/normal Nirvana. Better have something new in this game, something that requires REAL teamwork/
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  • Geckofreak - Sanctuary
    Geckofreak - Sanctuary Posts: 2,280 Arc User
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    maybe put in a bp reduction debuff on all bosses when only 3 toons are attacking the boss for a period of time?
    Boss would do a psuedo purge, removing bp from everyone frequently, until it recieves damage from other players. this would remove the soloing aspect that all these sins abuse
    RexNero - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    If are talking with me can confirm i can solo every boss in game with a random of my toon but not for this is a reason for delete squad mode from TT many ppl can't solo it btw my underline was only becouse who start this topic for me not is real interested if TT is solo or squad mode but only to wish say "Hey guys i can solo TT" Someone think to be the only OP on this game there are full of OP ppl like there is who need help.

    So can close this topic pointless for me.

    PS can i ask to remove PAV def from WS waste only my time.....b:bye

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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited November 2012
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    Geckofreak - Sanctuary wrote: »
    maybe put in a bp reduction debuff on all bosses when only 3 toons are attacking the boss for a period of time?
    !

    Minimum amount of players in squad for TT is 4.

    That would mean tank, 2 DDs, healer. In a traditional squad, healer wouldn't be attacking much, if at all and would be focused on healing/purify/maybe debuffing. That leaves 3 players actually attacking the boss, which would cause this suggestion to hurt those trying to do things traditionally too.

    In other words, you'd want to lower your requirement to two players attacking for it to work. b:cute
  • Kremia - Lost City
    Kremia - Lost City Posts: 507 Arc User
    edited November 2012
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    flyranger - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    you Cant Solo 15-mins-after-boss In Delta :p

    Ps: Even If U Make Tt W/ Element\phys Immune Bosses, I Still Will Be Able To Solo It. Same As I Can Solo Casters/normal Nirvana. Better Have Something New In This Game, Something That Requires Real Teamwork/

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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited November 2012
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    Purple_fury - Sanctuary wrote: »
    they are trying to act cool b:chuckle thats all
    tarded' is more like it. Herpderp Hall is the unofficial name for that.

    oVenusArmanio wrote: »
    Nope, in fact I wish they'd buff the bosses like they did the BH bosses. AND make the requirements stricter so that you'd be forced to actually run with those people. Squad mode should require squads, it would make the mat prices go up if there wasn't as much supply. Right now that market is at it's bare minimal values for profit.

    have to agree. would be much more fun.

    @OP
    I dont see why such things need to change. Especially since TT was already soloable for some classes before the existance of genies, increase skill slots, and packs, much less tideborn expansion. Just cause you can solo it a few years later, isnt important enough for pwi to change.
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  • ZackMystic - Harshlands
    ZackMystic - Harshlands Posts: 325 Arc User
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    _Ernesto_ - Raging Tide wrote: »
    solo mode - 1 person
    Squad mode - 4 person, isnt that hard to understand b:surrender

    If the instance is just turned to a "easy and hard modes" the mmorpg thing is gonna be losed and the game is gonna be called now "perfect world solonational"

    True, although this game has lost alot of interaction since you can just get a lvl 100 and solo anything for your lower lvl char...
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  • Reliea - Sanctuary
    Reliea - Sanctuary Posts: 685 Arc User
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    Nope!
    Don't want to encourage more solo-mentality.
  • Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver
    Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver Posts: 756 Arc User
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    RexNero - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    If are talking with me can confirm i can solo every boss in game with a random of my toon but not for this is a reason for delete squad mode from TT many ppl can't solo it btw my underline was only becouse who start this topic for me not is real interested if TT is solo or squad mode but only to wish say "Hey guys i can solo TT" Someone think to be the only OP on this game there are full of OP ppl like there is who need help.

    So can close this topic pointless for me.

    PS can i ask to remove PAV def from WS waste only my time.....b:bye

    I truly doubt you can solo every boss in the game. The anniversary event boss 1 on 1 would have killed you due to self bramble/buffs, as would other other nearly team-fought bosses.
  • MagicEmpress - Lost City
    MagicEmpress - Lost City Posts: 795 Arc User
    edited November 2012
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    seitori wrote: »
    Could you imagine the uproar it would cause, if they ever dropped it too 3 ???!?!?!??? ((b:shocked)) b:laughb:chuckle

    This would be cool. Three is a squad.
    It's so much easier to find jut one guildie free than two to come help.
  • Teseanna - Heavens Tear
    Teseanna - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,021 Arc User
    edited November 2012
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    good lord, quit with the HH already. It's called Twilight Temple....
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  • CroPsy - Heavens Tear
    CroPsy - Heavens Tear Posts: 476 Arc User
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    Hwilight Hemple - that's funny b:chuckle
  • Nariin - Dreamweaver
    Nariin - Dreamweaver Posts: 890 Arc User
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    They should make you get the timer as soon there is less then 4 people in squad b:shutup If you're afraid of DCing needa take more just in case.

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  • mm2000
    mm2000 Posts: 218 Arc User
    edited November 2012
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    You idiots arguing about TT / HH ? Twilight temple and holy hall is exactly the same thing...

    You guys like to make drama over little things do you? I don't care if minimum squad limit for squad mode was reduced to one, less of a chore for me to open up 4 accounts to open TT to solo.
  • Selak - Dreamweaver
    Selak - Dreamweaver Posts: 462 Arc User
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    mm2000 wrote: »
    You idiots arguing about TT / HH ? Twilight temple and holy hall is exactly the same thing...

    You guys like to make drama over little things do you? I don't care if minimum squad limit for squad mode was reduced to one, less of a chore for me to open up 4 accounts to open TT to solo.

    I would suggest not calling people idiots, while admitting you have 4 accounts open on the forums, I do believe the limit is 2 accounts per person according to TOS. b:chuckle
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  • Channman - Lost City
    Channman - Lost City Posts: 491 Arc User
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    who cares if its TT or HH i call it both... people still know what it is so whats the big deal
  • BerserkBeast - Sanctuary
    BerserkBeast - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited November 2012
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    mm2000 wrote: »
    You idiots arguing about TT / HH ? Twilight temple and holy hall is exactly the same thing...

    You guys like to make drama over little things do you? I don't care if minimum squad limit for squad mode was reduced to one, less of a chore for me to open up 4 accounts to open TT to solo.

    Opening 4 accounts its against the TOS

    Who's the IDIOT now?
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  • Teseanna - Heavens Tear
    Teseanna - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,021 Arc User
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    mm2000 wrote: »
    You idiots arguing about TT / HH ? Twilight temple and holy hall is exactly the same thing...

    Really?!?

    Yeah that's my point. Come on friggin hipsters. It isn't called HH any more...
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  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited November 2012
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    First off, you don't ask a clear question so the poll makes no sense. Are you asking is squad mode a good idea or is removing squad mode a good idea?
    Kremia - Lost City wrote: »
    Is well known that HH (or TT in other servers) is completely soloable now, so it doesnt make sence to still have a requeriment to open it.
    At least for me is a pain to get 2 other players to help me open it (i have never multiaccounted more than 2 characters ofc b:avoid), wouldnt be awesome if gms could delete this?, maybe change from "solo and squad mode" to "easy and hard mode".

    I think you mean TT (or HH in other games) since its only HH in PW-Malaysia, not in PWI. I agree there is no point to squad mode requirement anymore. I think the reason pwi keeps it is so people open more accounts and have more alts clogging up the servers. Many people just open 4 clients to open TT and that probably looks good on paper for pwi when they have 4x as many people logged in, even though almost none of them are playing. People **** about West Archo causing server lag but I bet the TT alt counts are nearly as high and yet people still don't want to allow people to farm squad mode solo.

    I think it comes down to jealousy, honestly. If a wizard can't solo TT then why should a sin get to? Lets make a roadblock people have to go out of their way to go around so the sin can solo. Nevermind that the wizard player completely has the option to build a sin.

    Solo mode has worse drop rates (obviously) but is also missing many of the items squad mode has, so its not just about drop rates. There really isn't a point to me taking 20 minutes to make a squad for an instance that takes 20 minutes to run solo, then split 1/6 of the drops with people who did 1/50th of the work.

    And some of squad modes are actually somewhat of a challenge. People who insist on keeping the 4 person req only hurt themselves. I consider soloing squad mode TTs all the time but getting the 4 person squad is usually too much a pain to bother so I usually just log off. People make it a pain to run the challenging instances and the amount of players willing to do them diminishes, so less active people in the game. Also, the amount of mats farmed diminishes so those same people who want to keep squad mode end up having to pay more for their mats. Stoopid of them =/
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear wrote: »

    -Not everyone can Solo squad

    Then bring a squad. Not everyone can solo solo-mode either. Doesn't mean they can't bring a squad to that, also. People are just asking to have the options to run instances solo where there is actually a challenge.
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  • Kremia - Lost City
    Kremia - Lost City Posts: 507 Arc User
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    Lol @ the HH haters b:laugh
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    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
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    Kremia - Lost City wrote: »
    Lol @ the HH haters b:laugh

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  • temp0r4ry
    temp0r4ry Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
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    Better off making it require 6 people instead.


    Just sayin..
  • Geckofreak - Sanctuary
    Geckofreak - Sanctuary Posts: 2,280 Arc User
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    truekossy wrote: »

    In other words, you'd want to lower your requirement to two players attacking for it to work. b:cute

    1 person is also allowed to run 2 accounts at a time, but nice try.
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

    @OP
    I dont see why such things need to change. Especially since TT was already soloable for some classes before the existance of genies, increase skill slots, and packs, much less tideborn expansion. Just cause you can solo it a few years later, isnt important enough for pwi to change.

    Lv 90+ venos with hercs could solo tt 3-1 in a few hours, and only some of the bosses in 2-3
    I know a sin who told me they solo 3-3 in about 20 minutes. I think you can see my point
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