Which class is best for NW ?
XLeeu - Heavens Tear
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So with 2 NW's done and 2 more looming this weekend, the question is :
In your opinion, which class is best for Nation Wars and WHY would you say that ?
Thanx in advance
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In your opinion, which class is best for Nation Wars and WHY would you say that ?
Thanx in advance
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I eat you last
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1. Any r9 players. Self explanatory.
2. Assassins-Stealth, casters never see you coming 99% of the time unless they spam stealth pots 24/7.
3. Any casters or archer-ranged will always have the advantage on non-sin melee classes, barbs being the only hard ones to kill for them.0 -
Barbs- because they are the best flag runners.
Bm and veno being the next best.
Archers,psy,wizards because they obliterate the enemy from range
Once people start staying in groups of 6-10 sins will be worthless in nation wars just like they are in tw.0 -
RunningTiger - Dreamweaver wrote: »Once people start staying in groups of 6-10 sins will be worthless in nation wars just like they are in tw.
I'll be looking forward to kill you soon this weekend and prove you wrong heheb:laugh
P.S. All sins will be going g15/g16 +12 in no time so expect huge damage change in what you normally take from sins.0 -
in my opinion barbs can run flag but suck in damage sins only tickle atm with +5 g16 dags wiz,psy,archer the best in my opinion with a speed pot the anti stun skill and the 2 79 skill i run those flags back good too but any skilled player is good or r90
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any sin who uses aps in NW sucks can jsut go afk with bramble on and flag jsut dig it on mount and win100% F2P legit 105 since starting this game. Full rank9 jaded +12 seeker. .tinyurl.com/nocashshopHaters gona hate cuz they cant play a game0
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From what ive seen on being on my seeker, in this war you gonna need a team lol so my opinion is if you got a team that works well together any class can will excel but as far as being the only person is say MAYBE psychic because of white voddoo and all those buffs and they can also hold there own quite well against multiple opponents if they know what they are doing and also go DD mode and take out a large number of people with all those aoes and purify them self if there sage (which most of them are i think) but this is gonna take crabs a charm and so on but its like that for all classes XD
Well that my 2 cents not sure if that could really happen seeing that everyone goes down so quick in that murderfestb:surrender...... that's if they don't have a solid and coordinated team that is.
EDIT:If you do this make sure you got 2hours worth of detection pot because it gets fishy out there.......literally XD0 -
Nniotora - Lost City wrote: »any sin who uses aps in NW sucks can jsut go afk with bramble on and flag jsut dig it on mount and win
Poor 105 seeker butt hurt cause he was ganked in last weekends NW by stealthy sins? QQ all you want and hate on sins, but that won't stop em from killing you.0 -
Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver wrote: »Poor 105 seeker butt hurt cause he was ganked in last weekends NW by stealthy sins? QQ all you want and hate on sins, but that won't stop em from killing you.
That "poor Seeker" as you call him is Rank 9 +12 full JoSD. You would have to be fairly new to this game if you think aps Sins are on his worry list. ijs.
To answer OP's question... best classes are:
1.) Ranged/aoe classes... contribution is boosted by damage and these classes are king of the hill in that category.
2.) Tanks... best for carrying flags which also boosts contribution... albeit Veno can be great here also.0 -
Hexalot - Dreamweaver wrote: »That "poor Seeker" as you call him is Rank 9 +12 full JoSD. You would have to be fairly new to this game if you think aps Sins are on his worry list. ijs.
Multiple sins could take him down instantly as he could be stunned repeatedly before launching any attacks regardless. With NW were gonna have every sin using +12 G16 so it's only gonna get worser for others seeing as maint didn't change 1=1 rap trade.0 -
Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver wrote: »Poor 105 seeker butt hurt cause he was ganked in last weekends NW by stealthy sins? QQ all you want and hate on sins, but that won't stop em from killing you.
You kill high geared casters with bramble on? Tell me your secret dude, cause most sins I know QQ about the 3k dmg reflecting back
Sins were funny in NW though. Literally every single one of them that try to stealth jump me stunned and went APS. I gues sins are incapable of checking for bufs, cause Arcane Defence isn't really that hard to miss9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris0 -
Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver wrote: »Poor 105 seeker butt hurt cause he was ganked in last weekends NW by stealthy sins? QQ all you want and hate on sins, but that won't stop em from killing you.
I wish I got credit for all the sins and BMs that killed themselves on my Bramble. Aps or not. There were some good ones out there but the vast majority were really good at killing themselves or being 1-2 shot by everyone.pwcalc.com/bb6fc16982637a5c / pwcalc.com/28948ee5778526f50 -
Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »You kill high geared casters with bramble on? Tell me your secret dude, cause most sins I know QQ about the 3k dmg reflecting back
Sins were funny in NW though. Literally every single one of them that try to stealth jump me stunned and went APS. I gues sins are incapable of checking for bufs, cause Arcane Defence isn't really that hard to miss
AD. Pangu Essences from faction base. Nuff said. Same with Psy's and their SoV. This was just with +7 g13 daggers. Farming G16 daggers atm so I'm only gonna become deadlier.Maelael - Heavens Tear wrote: »I wish I got credit for all the sins and BMs that killed themselves on my Bramble. Aps or not. There were some good ones out there but the vast majority were really good at killing themselves or being 1-2 shot by everyone.
Only R9's/ranged classes killed me when they could catch me out of stealth or other sins with G16 or R9 dags. When I get G16 +12 in 2-3 weeks worth of NW they will full much easier as well as a little better gear refine in the mix.0 -
Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver wrote: »AD. Nuff said. Same with Psy's and their SoV. This was just with +7 g13 daggers. Farming G16 daggers atm so I'm only gonna become deadlier.
Right. So you can kill everyone in 4 seconds with an empty genie.
And what happends when your time is up?9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris0 -
Maelael - Heavens Tear wrote: »I wish I got credit for all the sins and BMs that killed themselves on my Bramble. Aps or not. There were some good ones out there but the vast majority were really good at killing themselves or being 1-2 shot by everyone.
QFT. Most sins couldn't even kill my cleric with the ~10k HP/11k p.def. and demon bramble he had without the need to gank, and would die from a weak siren's kiss after ticking their charms/losing deaden on bramble.0 -
Actually I think Archers might be the best flag runner:
Alacrity + charger orb + 2 leaps = 30s flag capture
I think that's the fastest of all classes and I've had a 100% capture rate with this. Alacrity is just insanely good for NW because you can not only use it on yourself but also on any teammate who happens to grab the flag.
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Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »Actually I think Archers might be the best flag runner:
Alacrity + charger orb + 2 leaps = 30s flag capture
I think that's the fastest of all classes and I've had a 100% capture rate with this. Alacrity is just insanely good for NW because you can not only use it on yourself but also on any teammate who happens to grab the flag.
Alacrity can be used on flag carrier teammates too? Thanks for the tip...I'll be sure to implement that into my strategies with my squad from now on. Maybe I'll make a pure archer myself later on for NW seeing as I don't need APS anymore on a archer character as nirvana is dead and pure archers would own much better in NW and I could make a nirvy G16 bow in 1-2 weeks worth of NW.0 -
Agreed. Sins in stealth found themselves being owned by my R8 archer, even up close. And if I didn't kill them myself, my squad mates did.
Sins in PvP are really becoming pointless, and a complete embarrassment.PWI Gamer since Closed Beta (Under RisenPhoenix/Nahktuul - Sanctuary/Archosaur)0 -
Lol, my sin is forum banned, but I am a +12 r9 sin with aps gear all +10. Yeah a sin can use immune dmg stuff, but so can the intended "victim" FACT, sins are going to die nearly instantly after it all wears off if they attack anything other than a stragler or low geared person. When a sin attacks a group your weapon dmg means nothing because you are a one shot to any +12 r9 caster class that will soon be r9 final cast+10-12. When you attack a squad, after everyones dmg immune wears off you will be stunned and one hit. Not even accounting for bramble or psy.
It shouldn't take long for people to figure out they need to stay in a group working together to get points. You seem to get the most points just be being on the winning side in a number of battles which is done by running the flag. killing people is good too, but that comes with running the flag.0 -
RunningTiger - Dreamweaver wrote: »It shouldn't take long for people to figure out they need to stay in a group working together to get points. You seem to get the most points just be being on the winning side in a number of battles which is done by running the flag. killing people is good too, but that comes with running the flag.
Or getting to the flag in the first place b:chuckle9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris0 -
http://www.pwcalc.com/c227ea0d83d5a826
Perhaps this is the most formidable build for NW. That much amount of raw damage+ sage skills...that will get anyone killed instantly, perhaps even r9's. After g16 daggers I might make this instead. Tho I'm sure the ornaments can be changed for much better ones.0 -
Archers have always been the most deadly class in tw in terms of kills, and its no different for nw. i havent managed to grab a flag yet because i wanna get myself higher on the pk rankings (if they ever get fixed!) but as asty says i have assisted many with aclarity for the quick getaway.
Assassins are still deadly, but in group pvp, they arent as effective as they can be ganked and their kills prevented. Im expect many sins to drop the aps build for NW soon however, as alot of the r9 sins have done for tw. a full r9 sin may have no interval, but with chill of the deep, and crit/zerks/critzerks, they can deal massive damage to everyone, with boosted survivability.
So far id have to say the weakest class for this seems like clerics, based off of damage dealt, defense, and complete lack of speed and immunes for flag running, however, we all still need clerics so they gotta stay![SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I see a lot of Sin bashing in this part of the forum. Taking down names b:laugh. thanks for the list.
I'm a Sin in NW and let me tell you my story maybe it will change your tone of type.
1 Vs 20 yes my sin vs 20.... they wasted 20 ppl on me trying to defend a area I attacked solo! and it took them for ever to win against just me... wonder why? I would just wait in the narrow path and pull a 300, "THIS IS SPARTA!!" kill flag carrier and go back to stealth. My goal was not to win but to delay 20 ppl from defending or attacking another area. Bramble you say :O most magic class players die in one hit from my bow, I bramble wont help em there. tested it out on so LA 100+ and i was able to 2 shot kill them soooo bramble shmamble.
Should i tell you the other story how i wiped 12 ppl wile they were all attacking me, and I won. I just Sparked ported to the middle of all of them (thanks for standing close guys lol) I IG, lvl11 Sage subsea, and lvl11 Earthen Rift = Mass death! then killed the HA that survived and stealthed out. See you in NW.0 -
I see a lot of Sin bashing in this part of the forum. Taking down names b:laugh. thanks for the list.
I'm a Sin in NW and let me tell you my story maybe it will change your tone of type.
1 Vs 20 yes my sin vs 20.... they wasted 20 ppl on me trying to defend a area I attacked solo! and it took them for ever to win against just me... wonder why? I would just wait in the narrow path and pull a 300, "THIS IS SPARTA!!" kill flag carrier and go back to stealth. My goal was not to win but to delay 20 ppl from defending or attacking another area. Bramble you say :O most magic class players die in one hit from my bow, I bramble wont help em there. tested it out on so LA 100+ and i was able to 2 shot kill them soooo bramble shmamble.
Should i tell you the other story how i wiped 12 ppl wile they were all attacking me, and I won. I just Sparked ported to the middle of all of them (thanks for standing close guys lol) I IG, lvl11 Sage subsea, and lvl11 Earthen Rift = Mass death! then killed the HA that survived and stealthed out. See you in NW.
Have fun with that list when you don't see any names in Nation Wars. Unles you want to whisper the person. Which is really very time effective9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris0 -
Well yeah lol killing people in tt99 gear or +5 when you have a +10 or higher weapon...say it isn't so. Try shooting any +10-12 full rank 9 caster with a bow and they are going to laugh at you.....0
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you can see the names of ppl in NW now even if they have party banner up b:laugh. you have the option in your T menu to remove it from your view. then you can see ppls names. oc i was joking about the list tho. for all i know you guys will be on my side, i hope so. I'm not a big fan of making ppl hate me. Also my fashion is a bit uniqe anyone who knows my sin will be able to tell its me by looking at it.0
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RunningTiger - Dreamweaver wrote: »Well yeah lol killing people in tt99 gear or +5 when you have a +10 or higher weapon...say it isn't so. Try shooting any +10-12 full rank 9 caster with a bow and they are going to laugh at you.....
You right about that I bumpped into some of my friends who have R9+12 and I only ended up tickling them lmao.
For flag I would say Barb is the best tho. Think I may try on my barb next NW.0 -
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you can see the names of ppl in NW now even if they have party banner up b:laugh. you have the option in your T menu to remove it from your view. then you can see ppls names. oc i was joking about the list tho. for all i know you guys will be on my side, i hope so. I'm not a big fan of making ppl hate me. Also my fashion is a bit uniqe anyone who knows my sin will be able to tell its me by looking at it.
I tryd the T menu trick to find out who was who. Usually a sin tryd to jump me by the time I figured it out. b:chuckle
Ofource there was the ocasional pro one, but most just stunned me and than went APS noob, triggering arcane defence so I could seal and kill them. Which was always funny.
An extra fun effect of the full fights all the time is that your squad gets split up easely. In the beginning I had fights where the enemy had like 7 sins jumping at 1 person, very organized. Still APSnoobs, but I don't think alot of people could stand against 7 sins. Not without +12 or something b:chuckle
But after a few fights those organized groups got split up nicely9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris0 -
Like some have said before, when it comes too flag bearers, Barbs are the best....
But from what I saw and experienced this last run (before the game crashed my comp out~b:sad) was that, {NW} is not gonna come down too a best class (But a best team/squad mix) I went in with 1 of my seekers too see what it was like for that class... And what I quickly noticed was that strike teams we're already figured out quite effectively, in the mixings of:
2-High sins (playing stealth line running & Interdiction) for a Flagging Barb...
1-'Steathed' sin & a High BM (doing seek and destroy forays) where the BM Lures others and the sin Stuns them for a ganking...
& a mix of (High & Mid Level) Archers holding (ranged field {stun} superiority) for (mid level) Close range skirmish characters ~ who were only mediocrely equipped) so they could hold a field area, too a better effect against (High end) heavies....
About the only class I actually saw effectively running (or flying) the field (with any decent effect & freedom while being solo) was Stealthed out sniping sins, who'd Whack the soloing stragglers, that were out & away from the protection of the herds......b:thanks0 -
All class can be good in NW depend only from the squad coordination and if you are lucky to join in a good squad.
For aswer i vote for barb like best class in NV then ranged/aoe0
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