Grinding your gears, what class does it?
Joshcja - Sanctuary
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Been back like 3 days, Bhed with over 50 people, FCCed on my sin with over 100
95% plus will hit level 100 with +2 tt 90 or 99 weapons and horrible be horribad at w/e class they play.
However aside from the constant shallow end of the PWI gene pool what CLASS grinds your gears the most?
Clerics with 0 mag damage level 1 purify and a BB macro?
Barbs who pull 1 mob at a time in an aoe instance or are to afraid to arma for aggro?
BM's with +2 60 fists for "aps" and 3k hp with evade ornaments?
Wizzies who...atually hitting RB or a pyro gush macro is basicly impossibly to F up aside from above gear rant.
Archers who equip +2 fists (See bm from here) becasue barrage costs to much to level/keep up
Psys...who dont...ya I cant...Oh wait! who level 10 SOV the tank in delta
Sins with +10 weapons and +3 350 mill base cost armor unsharded (actually I kinda love to watch these)
(edit) knew I forgot something, venos hat dont use amp or IW and heal pet while the claw/dagger people do all the work screaming "LET HERC GET AGGRO"
Seekers/mystics....Oddly I never actually watch what these do, aside from silence AOE spam cant think of anything. somone fill this in?
Either way what class do you just hate to see join a party?
For me it would be barb, great class I play one myself, but sooooooooooooooo many domineering derps
(note, none of this is really recent or FCC/gamma/ZEN/BH baby rant, PWI has always had a pretty huge kiddy pool area and lots of folks who need to wear water wings in 6"'s of water)
95% plus will hit level 100 with +2 tt 90 or 99 weapons and horrible be horribad at w/e class they play.
However aside from the constant shallow end of the PWI gene pool what CLASS grinds your gears the most?
Clerics with 0 mag damage level 1 purify and a BB macro?
Barbs who pull 1 mob at a time in an aoe instance or are to afraid to arma for aggro?
BM's with +2 60 fists for "aps" and 3k hp with evade ornaments?
Wizzies who...atually hitting RB or a pyro gush macro is basicly impossibly to F up aside from above gear rant.
Archers who equip +2 fists (See bm from here) becasue barrage costs to much to level/keep up
Psys...who dont...ya I cant...Oh wait! who level 10 SOV the tank in delta
Sins with +10 weapons and +3 350 mill base cost armor unsharded (actually I kinda love to watch these)
(edit) knew I forgot something, venos hat dont use amp or IW and heal pet while the claw/dagger people do all the work screaming "LET HERC GET AGGRO"
Seekers/mystics....Oddly I never actually watch what these do, aside from silence AOE spam cant think of anything. somone fill this in?
Either way what class do you just hate to see join a party?
For me it would be barb, great class I play one myself, but sooooooooooooooo many domineering derps
(note, none of this is really recent or FCC/gamma/ZEN/BH baby rant, PWI has always had a pretty huge kiddy pool area and lots of folks who need to wear water wings in 6"'s of water)
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At the moment, I'm ready to drop a squad when I see a cleric with the lvl 95 morai weapon join.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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The only class that really bothers me is the lazy class - As in anyone who doesn't try to do the job(s) they are supposed to do in an instance.
BMs who preffer fisting single targets when a whole group of wraiths have been aggro'd.
Clerics who only use their chromatic/stream instead of IH/BB (when they're needed)
Venos who only spam Venomous Scarab and dont Amp/Purge/Myriad or use their pets when needed.
Mystics...well, those that leave their Mistress w/o MP for a long period of time while using her I guess. Havent run into many really lazy ones...yet.
Assassins who dont use Rib/Subsea or watch their aggro when they can not survive as a tank.
...and as you said, Barbs who only pull one mob at a time.
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BMs with evasion ornaments and Love: Up and Down
Assassins who don't use their AoEs
BMs autoattacking and dying against Lord of Captivation
Psychics silencing mobs when clearing an instance
Archers/Wizards using their constant channel AoEs and dying
Venomancers who don't amp/purge
Psychics buffing the wrong person with Empowered Vigor
Seekers with -interval gear
Barbs who don't properly use their aggro skillsI am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
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This is very difficult to attend ... See this:
BM: With supa **** gear, gems or diamonds on gear with 4 socs, refines +10 in all freaking gear .. and in the end they know S H I T about being a good BM.
Barb: Same
Mystic: Same
Archer: Same
Sin: Same
Seeker: Same
Cleric: Same
Veno: Same
Psy: Same
See my point? The problem is not on the gear itself... I have a well geared Seeker cause i $pend $ome time if you get me b:laugh ... But not all can do this, and in fact TT90 or 99 even if not top refined or top sharded still pretty good ..
The thing is, you cant filter the good from the bad. And you will always end up witha weakest link in every class ... I enjoy all classes in squad, cleric for the obvious reasons, barbs ditto and hp a atck buffs, bm phys buff, and so on ...
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I haven't partied up much with Venos or Wizards...they're a bit of a rarity on Mormaganon so I can't really say much about them.
However, as of recent times, I have an axe to grind with:
1. Sins that are lower lvl than me and won't use the damn Rib Strike when I tank something. If I'd have time to type it'd be "RIB for God's sake, or this thing will kill me and then all of you, **** your corpse and sip tea out of your hollow skull!" I hate having to lose precious healing by ribbing instead of the other guy that's just auto-atacking.
2. Sins that get poisoned like idiots because they won't use Deep Sting and then complain about pots and how the game sucks and the class sucks and whatever.
3. Clerics that do not inform you that the most they've done with their class is shoot heads in FC, or who will disregard their own safety to heal one idiot (me) that hasn't yet managed to hit the enemies and then get themselves killed. If you see me in the middle of a group, with that little circle around me and having done the little dance beforehand, let me either hit them or die trying, but don't kill yourself on my behalf. We've got a long wait for you otherwise.
4. Barbs that try to match me in aggro. If I'm taking aggro from you and I'm not dying, stop trying to take it back, you're just confusing the cleric.
5. Psychics and Wizards that AOE groups of mobs before either me, the barb or the seeker has had time to get a decent hit in. Same classes that won't take care of their aggro capabilities in an instance and just hit the boss with all they've got. If I steal aggro, I can generally either hide, or survive on BP and spark...you'll die and that's that.0 -
Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »Seekers with -interval gear
Eh... 99.9% of Seekers with int. gear are alts borrowing it from their BM mains (unless you think people are spending 300+ mil to outfit their Seekers with interval gear ?).
I did the exact same thing with my Seeker and used them for a while too until I could finally upgrade to Rank gear. It makes sense since chances are your BM's armor would already be decently refined and sharded (at least mine was) thus giving the Seeker alt a decent HP pool to work with. Also any defense shortfall the Seeker suffers due to wearing part LA gear (typically boots and wrists) is usually more than made up for with their defense level buffs.0 -
Hexalot - Dreamweaver wrote: »Eh... 99.9% of Seekers with int. gear are alts borrowing it from their BM mains (unless you think people are spending 300+ mil to outfit their Seekers with interval gear ?).
I did the exact same thing with my Seeker and used them for a while too until I could finally upgrade to Rank gear. It makes sense since chances are your BM's armor would already be decently refined and sharded (at least mine was) thus giving the Seeker alt a decent HP pool to work with. Also any defense shortfall the Seeker suffers due to wearing part LA gear (typically boots and wrists) is usually more than made up for with their defense level buffs.
Tell that to the few Seekers I've seen with this or Ashura's ornaments. Or both.
I mean, I can understand it if we're talking actual HA gear like Lionheart Greaves or TT99 wrists and boots, or gear with high refines. But a +4 Energetic Robe: Wraithgate? Ashura's Ornaments? +3 Ashura wrists or boots? Get lost.I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
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I just hate when they start to have an "AFK attack" or don't pay attention to what they are doing.
Also if they doesn't know how to how to shot web is pretty annoying.[SIGPIC]http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=15031077002&dateline=1409280330[/SIGPIC]
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People don't know their class anymore.
We need to constantly tell them what to do.
On every class i play when i join a squad i buff all, i don't wait people to ask.
Last week a sin 101 QQ in guild chat saying he need a mini boss for culti, i say to invite so i'll go help, than by the time i go to the place i pm my leader laughting at a sin unable solo a mini boss i soloed on all my chars, so once there the sin attack the boss and die, he ress and i finish the boss, than the ''pro'' sin tell me ''thx it was 3 times i tried and wasn't able to do it'' than i said ''didn't think that use bp might help?''.
How a sin cannot think to bp himself for doing a mini boss? Not just one time 3 TIMES.
Many time in squad the sin go rush on boss QQing for heal, than when i tell them that they should bp i got the answer ''thx i didn't saw i wasn't'' ....
When you tell a veno to amp&purge and she answer ''oh i forgot i can do that'', you are veno are you can forget that, i have a veno lvl93 that i play 1 time every 6 months and i don't forget to amp/purge/bramble etc, how someone playing it every day as main can forgot something like that?
Fist barb that have LESS hp than my cleric. If people want use fist they should reroll, barb are suppose to be a tank. I hate people doing a different build thinking they don't need to do their job anymore, i don't care that a cleric is pure magic vit AA HA or w/e a cleric job is to heal and keep squad alive, they want to DD? Fine reroll like i did, i was tired of healing, i didn't become one of those fail metal wizz, i made a new char that the class is a DD.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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clerics who die when a mob barely looks at them
then blame others
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clerics who dont heal themselves and only use aoe heal in fc knowing well they are going to die to the second boss aoe
unable to hit a single IH on themselves..
then DIE, RESPAWN
meanwhile others hold the boss and tick
Cleric returns and dies to the first aoe cause he didnt heal and buff up after reviving
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Clerics who only heal seekers/bms/barbs, even if they have lower hp than the dds
"seeker/bm/barb tanks, stop dd so much"
i hate fail clerics, i hate fail clerics, i hate fail clerics
im glad i have a wide variety of pro cleric friends for high lvl instances
SEEKERS
+1 lvl70 sword, lvl90, 3k hp
"i tank, lolz"
MYSTICS
"we dont need a cleric! i can heal"
*puts up healing plant and dds*
ASSASINS
>i haz 2k hp and no defense, lets go all out and dd as much as i can!
*dies in 1 second* "cleric sucks!"
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request: "LF AOE DDs for Xy"
assasin: "ASSASIN, i have aoes!"
answer: "assasins are no aoe dds"
assasin: *links +12 daggers*
STILL NO AOE DD, +5 seeker does a better job than you
BARBS
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"LF cleric only for bh snake, pm me."
"Sin"
"full sins"
*links dagger*
Gonna heal me and everyone else with that "super awesome" +3 g13 dagger (cuz honestly these are the only ones that do that) and your unrefined gear. Thought not.
Clerics that only spam chromatic when the tank is the only one with aggro. Seriously, wtf is that?
Mystics that seal mobs in aoe during hf, seriously you're gonna push them all out of range during a massive debuff? -__-
Seekers that absolutely refuse to use the defense level buff even if you ask them like 5 times. What if I refused to give you BP? What if refused to give you cleric buffs? That ish doesn't cost mirages anymore, if someone asks give it to them.
Tanks that can't tank. Mostly a problem in aoe type situations but still.
BMs that don't HF or only do so sporadically without any regard to what kind of damage output is going on.
Venos that don't amp or purge.
Other sins in general. For some reason they are all named assassin, sin, dagger, or dark. Many pay almost no attention to their armor and end up with weapons that deal more damage than they can handle. They don't rib, they don't powerdash or subsea. Some of them don't even use wolf emblem.
I have very little problems with archers, psys, and wizzies. Most of them seem to know what they are doing and the ones that don't, their mistakes aren't as noticeable.
One thing I dislike about every class is people who don't pay attention to squad chat. And then rage about something that was mentioned to them in squad chat that they promptly ignored and resulting in everything ending badly for them.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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My name is not Assassin, dark, etc. b:pleased
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I hate it when every other class but me dies and im standing there in White Voodoo alone tanking something . Popping Psy Will and Empower Vigor as fast as i can and potting like crazy b:sad
PS:Sadly that has happen in every instance ive been in except Aba & SoT
Cleric : Who decide oh healing is so 2011 and decide to DD the whole time
Barbs: Who can't hold any agro at all
BM's: Who forget to use HF and decides ya fists are faster
Wiz : Who well .....they just seem to be there. Cant't complain too much
Sin's: Who think there barbs b:laugh
Psys: Who don't seem to know anything about there class and never Psy Will or go into white voodoo when things go bad
Mystics: Who they use the wrong pet in Caster and think there helping when all i see is Resist
Seakers: Who are afraid of pulling and forget Vortex
Veno: Who stay in fox form the whole time " have no idea what there doing" guess amping ect
Archers: Who, well there like Wiz and just seem to be there.
God knows ive done enough dumb things over the years but people who don't know there class drive me insane[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Complete your first quest. b:bye
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HexOmega - Dreamweaver wrote: »->
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SEEKERS
+1 lvl70 sword, lvl90, 3k hp
"i tank, lolz"
This and the Seekers who do pure vit builds and think they can tank. I can sneeze and pull hate.
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Xilplxim - Dreamweaver wrote: »HexOmega - Dreamweaver wrote: »->
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SEEKERS
+1 lvl70 sword, lvl90, 3k hp
"i tank, lolz"
This and the Seekers who do pure vit builds and think they can tank. I can sneeze and pull hate.
Sad part is Im a seeker too.
Anyways, I hate when the barb only knows how to pull but doesn't try to tank ANYTHING. I have know a few barb who can hold DDs aggro without problem there, but they are just too lazy to use more pots. They rather let the seeker have a 300k repair bill after a successful full delta SP...
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I hate those *insert class here* who since they got an high level *insert high level class here* means they're good at any other class as well.
I hate those who randomly link their gear even if no one asked -- just to brag about it.The only way to beat a troll is....to troll him back b:angry0 -
I honestly thought this was going to be about paying for gear by grinding.AKA PermaSpark, Heartshatter0
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I hate when a squad is made (caster) and people ask for link weapon and when the person enter in the instance you see that the person wear gears mold 7x and have nothing good beside the weapon.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Barbs that race ahead and round up a ton of mobs then they don't run back to the rest of the squad that is hauling *** to catch up. They just stand there waiting for the dds and cleric to arrive, and end up dying because they obviously needed more than crab meat to live.
Clerics that use violet dance, even if there is another cleric, or that use BB anytime more than 2 mobs are aggroed because the idea of actually healing as needed makes them **** themselves and then they whine about needing to build chi every 3 min.
Venos that only know how to hit pet heal and summon herc
Wizards that refuse to breed, leading to their extinction. Seriously I almost never see one and then they almost always do great. I can't remember one that had no idea what they were doing, though sometimes they use DB as their main attack on everything and get beaten. Thats rare though.
Psys that use Sov or SoS in a squad for any reason, excepting sage SoV (which they usually use on themselves). Or that don't understand how unkillable they SHOULD be if they DO take a lot of aggro.
Seekers that want to tank and absolutely can't. Also, did you know they have more skills than vortex? Who knew? Its especially fun when in RB and they just stand there spinning while all the mobs are outside the aoe, usually because the BM decides to HF 15 feet ahead of the vortex and outside of BB and then stand there. But they went afk and never reposition so everyone has to actively "run through the sprinkler" to get the mobs to notice them.
Archers that use punching weapons. If you don't get why, then you probably are one.
BMs that never use roar, need to be coerced into using bell, have no idea what marrows are, wouldn't be able to pick an axe out of a line up, and no matter how many times you explain it to them don't understand why BH bosses are killing them now.
Sins. All of them, especially the ones that need to be coerced into BPing the squad. Hardly any of their skills (that they never use) are even useful in PVE and since most instances aren't a series of one on one encounters I'd rather have any other class in squad. Also, since they took out most of the doors and guards, and the BH bosses are (for most people) not aps spamable they are no longer needed to stealth ahead to open doors and I know a lot of squads that refuse to take one to aba or sot because they literally can't contribute as much due to auto attack being their only go to and often **** over the squad.
Mystics, well since I play one and rarely see another in squad for that reason they don't really grind my gears. Hypothetically any that didn't buff at least the tank and cleric, never healed anyone if the cleric couldn't keep up, and never debuffed anything would annoy me. Or if all they used was thicket and gale force and sleep plant *facepalm*[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Sins.
Because they exist.
In all seriousness, I hate it when a sin jumps me, fails, then goes back to stealth. Then they QQ about me going to safe zone...Facebook.com/foxi187
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AlysonRose - Heavens Tear wrote: »
Wizards that refuse to breed, leading to their extinction. Seriously I almost never see one and then they almost always do great. I can't remember one that had no idea what they were doing, though sometimes they use DB as their main attack on everything and get beaten. Thats rare though.
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Level 48 Wiz as of today and I absolutely love her. So we are not totally gone. And unlike some people I'm actually taking the time to learn how to play.
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_Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »Sins.
Because they exist.
In all seriousness, I hate it when a sin jumps me, fails, then goes back to stealth. Then they QQ about me going to safe zone...
or when a sin QQs about you having your mouse over the expel key from stealth after his ig wore off[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
fail sins
fail venos...the majority of venos i see today refuse to amp or purge or just didn't buy the skills
Veno that thinks her herc can tank in a squad full of DD's! had an 83 herc veno tell me she could tank polearm just the other day b:chuckleb:chuckle but she couldn't pull, amp or anything else it seemed lol0 -
FragiIe - Dreamweaver wrote: »fail sins
fail venos...the majority of venos i see today refuse to amp or purge or just didn't buy the skills
Veno that thinks her herc can tank in a squad full of DD's had an 83 herc veno tell me she could tank polearm just the other day b:chuckleb:chuckle but she couldn't pull, amp or anything else it seemed lol
Some veno are just really stupid, to a veno i asked to amp the boss the answer was '' I love DD on boss and if i amp the boss die too fast, so i don't amp for DD more long'' <- i seriously got that as answer.
Some people are just stupid.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »Some veno are just really stupid, to a veno i asked to amp the boss the answer was '' I love DD on boss and if i amp the boss die too fast, so i don't amp for DD more long'' <- i seriously got that as answer.
Some people are just stupid.
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What annoys me most, is squads that don't aoe/zhen to the boss. Wether it's chicken-kitties, "I-only-have-sucky-axes-for-hf" fistmasters or wizards that are affraid to pull out a nuke.
On a funny note, I recently fcc'ed again on my wizard. I left him behind, because it was the aps-era and nobody wanted anything magical in their fcc squad, then came goons followed by only sellers. A while back there started to form fcc squads again on Sanc. Squads that are actually better then the average bh100 squad, especially on the aoe part. They actually only want 1 sin and save 1 or 2 spots for "aoe DD". If only I found more of those for a bh seat or metal, those have just become to horribly slow b:surrender0 -
You don't watch what Seekers and Mystics do...because you don't know what they should be doing, generally.0
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Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »People don't know their class anymore.
We need to constantly tell them what to do.
On every class i play when i join a squad i buff all, i don't wait people to ask.
Last week a sin 101 QQ in guild chat saying he need a mini boss for culti, i say to invite so i'll go help, than by the time i go to the place i pm my leader laughting at a sin unable solo a mini boss i soloed on all my chars, so once there the sin attack the boss and die, he ress and i finish the boss, than the ''pro'' sin tell me ''thx it was 3 times i tried and wasn't able to do it'' than i said ''didn't think that use bp might help?''.
How a sin cannot think to bp himself for doing a mini boss? Not just one time 3 TIMES.
Many time in squad the sin go rush on boss QQing for heal, than when i tell them that they should bp i got the answer ''thx i didn't saw i wasn't'' ....
When you tell a veno to amp&purge and she answer ''oh i forgot i can do that'', you are veno are you can forget that, i have a veno lvl93 that i play 1 time every 6 months and i don't forget to amp/purge/bramble etc, how someone playing it every day as main can forgot something like that?
Fist barb that have LESS hp than my cleric. If people want use fist they should reroll, barb are suppose to be a tank. I hate people doing a different build thinking they don't need to do their job anymore, i don't care that a cleric is pure magic vit AA HA or w/e a cleric job is to heal and keep squad alive, they want to DD? Fine reroll like i did, i was tired of healing, i didn't become one of those fail metal wizz, i made a new char that the class is a DD.
just because u are playing an OP class doesnt give u the rights to look down at other class i dont even... b:cry0 -
OMarvelous - Sanctuary wrote: »You don't watch what Seekers and Mystics do...because you don't know what they should be doing, generally.
Agree, before i play mystic mysself i didn't know really their stuff, now i play one i can see if they do mistakes or not.bearishidonteven wrote: »just because u are playing an OP class doesnt give u the rights to look down at other class i dont even... b:cry
I play (played) many class, i'm not pro at all of them, but i'm not fail as well, i don't even....[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »I play (played) many class, i'm not pro at all of them, but i'm not fail as well, i don't even....
why are u always right i dont even... b:cry0
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