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  • Empu - Sanctuary
    Empu - Sanctuary Posts: 1,154 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    JSXJoe - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Just one Mystery remains for me now...what is that 1-Shot thing everyone is talking about while aggroing the mob the first time =? Never got it, never saw it, nothing o.o

    Well, you already found it yourself.
    JSXJoe - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Well, did my research and tested it out a lil bit. SoT Boss is easy as hell for a common Squad. Any Player with around 13k HP and somewhat 10k Phy def should be able to tank this easy Mode with a cleric at his back.

    It's not really a 1 shot, it's the famous chi-giving bleed that stays after you die. It 1shots pretty much anyone below 10k hp which is like 90% of the non-barbs if there is no hp buff.

    I looked up my test results I posted somewhere :

    Synthetic results:
    -Sin with hp buff (12.5k roughly) with different buffs to change defenses :
    def : 5.4k => 12k bleed
    def : 8.8k => 9.7k bleed and 2.8k 2nd tick
    def : 12.3k => 7.8k bleed, 2.2k 2nd tick
    def : 12.7k (+10 def lvl) => 7.6k bleed, 2.1k 2nd tick (confirmed that as expected from a dot, def lvl doesn't matter)
    def : 12.6k => 6.2k bleed, 1.3k 2nd tick

    -bm without hp buff, 10.5k hp
    def : 11.8k => 12.6k bleed (gotten obvious here)
    def : 24k (marrow, so mag def crushed) => 7.3k bleed

    -relogged sin to get hp buff off, 9.3k hp
    def : 16.7k => bleed 12.2k

    -for lolz, logged barb, 26k hp
    def : 14k => 2.5k bleed
    def : 18k => 1.8k bleed
  • JSXJoe - Sanctuary
    JSXJoe - Sanctuary Posts: 97 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    It's not really a 1 shot, it's the famous chi-giving bleed that stays after you die. It 1shots pretty much anyone below 10k hp which is like 90% of the non-barbs if there is no hp buff.

    I looked up my test results I posted somewhere :

    Synthetic results:
    -Sin with hp buff (12.5k roughly) with different buffs to change defenses :
    def : 5.4k => 12k bleed
    def : 8.8k => 9.7k bleed and 2.8k 2nd tick
    def : 12.3k => 7.8k bleed, 2.2k 2nd tick
    def : 12.7k (+10 def lvl) => 7.6k bleed, 2.1k 2nd tick (confirmed that as expected from a dot, def lvl doesn't matter)
    def : 12.6k => 6.2k bleed, 1.3k 2nd tick

    -bm without hp buff, 10.5k hp
    def : 11.8k => 12.6k bleed (gotten obvious here)
    def : 24k (marrow, so mag def crushed) => 7.3k bleed

    -relogged sin to get hp buff off, 9.3k hp
    def : 16.7k => bleed 12.2k

    -for lolz, logged barb, 26k hp
    def : 14k => 2.5k bleed
    def : 18k => 1.8k bleed

    mhm maybe it differz a lot from class to class, would explain why I didn'T even notived the dmg while tanking on my barb, aps or not. So actually this boss is supposed to be done old school like, nice one, I kinda like that idea if it's really true
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  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Bump for usage for a few people
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  • BerserkBeast - Sanctuary
    BerserkBeast - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Its just as I tought, there is no specif logic on the new bosses, aside the obvious use of a Barb,unless you're more than good geared,you're screwed.

    Its a sad,sad way to make Barbs wanted again,they could have done it in a different way other than"hey,I have the same Hp and P.def but I get 1/10 of the damage 'cause Im a barb,you jelly?" b:surrender
    The only way to beat a troll is....to troll him back b:angry
  • Staryu - Dreamweaver
    Staryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 109 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Some things I've figured out:
    When Leaf Rain Dryad says something about her affection for you, whoever has aggro has around 2 seconds before they get hit by bleed.

    Same thing with Lord of Captivation, except he says congratulations, you're the next prisoner.
  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    BerserkBeast - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Its just as I tought, there is no specif logic on the new bosses, aside the obvious use of a Barb,unless you're more than good geared,you're screwed.

    Its a sad,sad way to make Barbs wanted again,they could have done it in a different way other than"hey,I have the same Hp and P.def but I get 1/10 of the damage 'cause Im a barb,you jelly?" b:surrender
    Pff I am jelly. So jelly you could put me on toast and eat me b:chuckle.
    I love barbs <3. They make my life easier sometimes when I have people not being the smartest person and pulling more then they can handle and threaten to wipe the squad.
    They make good mounts too b:pleased
    Staryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Some things I've figured out:
    When Leaf Rain Dryad says something about her affection for you, whoever has aggro has around 2 seconds before they get hit by bleed.

    Same thing with Lord of Captivation, except he says congratulations, you're the next prisoner.

    The one thing I haven't tested is can the bleed go through spark. Considering the Bleed stays on you even if you're dead.... So I'll probably test that when I take a few groups into BH again.
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    BerserkBeast - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Its just as I tought, there is no specif logic on the new bosses, aside the obvious use of a Barb,unless you're more than good geared,you're screwed.

    Its a sad,sad way to make Barbs wanted again,they could have done it in a different way other than"hey,I have the same Hp and P.def but I get 1/10 of the damage 'cause Im a barb,you jelly?" b:surrender

    A barb has to be severely undergeared to have the same hp and pdef as something else.
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  • BerserkBeast - Sanctuary
    BerserkBeast - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    A barb has to be severely undergeared to have the same hp and pdef as something else.

    That wasn' the point, duh
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  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    +1 as people are still using it.
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  • Empu - Sanctuary
    Empu - Sanctuary Posts: 1,154 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    BerserkBeast - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Its a sad,sad way to make Barbs wanted again,they could have done it in a different way other than"hey,I have the same Hp and P.def but I get 1/10 of the damage 'cause Im a barb,you jelly?" b:surrender

    I think it's actually a pretty smart way, since pretty much any barb can tank it better then a well-geared other class. They somewhat managed to make barbs wanted as tank again without making them so hard it's "r9+12 or gtfo".

    What's wrong with a boss being easiest tanked by a class originally meant to be the best tank ? I am getting more fun again on my barb. It's a bit like the old days : barb was the best/most logic tank while there are some good bm/seekers/others that can also tank.

    The only ones I see being trolled are :
    - aps barbs that don't have the refines/shards to make up for their build. Glad they get 1shot, they asked for it.
    - those players with epic refines on weapon but low armor quality. Glad they get 1shot, gear should be balanced out.

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