Epic Failures.

Futurelord - Dreamweaver wrote: »

*Waits for someone to sell fashion in catshop or worldchat*

Wow I avoided the QQ with logical reasoning.

inconceivable

ZodiarkE - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Ok putting fash in the pack indeed means that you really have nothing better else to do then to put random things that does not belong in pack, not to mention the percentage is extremely low, devs stick to what you're good at, and that's making it back to normal as it should be, because honestly this is going to fail like it has done the last time.

you may call this ranting, qqing, or whatever it is you call it, but you know what else is funny? you guys aren't any better yourselves, you do the same thing so I'd suggest you quit your remarks, sure no one would care what I say, but as far as I am seeing minusing the people who hate the fash in the packs, always tells me you really cannot come up with something new for once, you're as bad as the people I shot in MW3 who has to kiss someones *** because you're afraid of them, the only thing I'm afraid of is not you, but when the world actually ends.

Oh wait....PWI is going to end if they keep this useless random **** they always tend to go with.

I just love how OP starts swingin' at the people who *might* reply to him, in a thread he created to 1) complain and 2) have people comment on it.

Brilliant!

(tips hat)

ZoracGallant - Raging Tide wrote: »

waits to watch you pay 50mil + for fashion from that catshop or worldchat. Yeah no thanks. If I saw it for under 20 maybe as that is what I would have spent in zen to get it from the cashshop if they had put it in there but otherwise no thanks I can live just fine without it.

I saw the female pieces for 15m each in AH, ijs.

knightsdarksoul wrote: »

Best male fash in ages, I wonder how much money they could have made by putting in the shop as 30 gold for the set

Hard to say with that .01% chance a lot of people are going to spend 1k on packs just to get it. But yes I think they would make just as much if not more by having in the cs for 15-20 gold for the set like most other fashion.

FFS... ok marketing gurus of PWE, this is what most mmorpgs do to make money and not fubar the game.

You put fashion, pets, charms, dyes, mounts... in the cash-shop. You put items in there that won't affect game play. People will purchase these things. Putting r9, +11/+12 orbs, rep in the cash shop isn't wise. NASA could put a space shuttle up for purchase at the Kennedy Space Center gift shop and someone may be rich and stupid enough to buy it. That doesn't mean they should be allowed to own it though.

You put tokens in packs along with occasional fun prize. (You won't find a new car in a CrakerJack box so you shouldn't find a neck or wep in there either.)

You save gear, weps, mats, orbs and shards for farming and manufacturing. People who can't take the time to farm for themselves will buy from other toons who can. That creates an economic cycle that will sustain itself.

sheesh.... what's next? A 10M coin tribute paid to Arch Elder each time you lvl up? argh!

Futurelord - Dreamweaver wrote: »

*Waits for someone to sell fashion in catshop or worldchat*

Wow I avoided the QQ with logical reasoning.

Yes because putting things in packs never causes the costs of said items to rise to something beyond what has been reasonable prior to them being sold in the boutique. Packs have nooo impact on the market for said items. A silk perfume, having been released all this time, has easily come back down to the same cost and availability as a spectral haze. I mean, they are the same speed and all. There is noooo reason to be upset at yet another thing players want getting stuffed into a pack.

SkogDyr - Lost City wrote: »

FFS... ok marketing gurus of PWE, this is what most mmorpgs do to make money and not fubar the game.

You put fashion, pets, charms, dyes, mounts... in the cash-shop. You put items in there that won't affect game play. People will purchase these things. Putting r9, +11/+12 orbs, rep in the cash shop isn't wise. NASA could put a space shuttle up for purchase at the Kennedy Space Center gift shop and someone may be rich and stupid enough to buy it. That doesn't mean they should be allowed to own it though.

You put tokens in packs along with occasional fun prize. (You won't find a new car in a CrakerJack box so you shouldn't find a neck or wep in there either.)

You save gear, weps, mats, orbs and shards for farming and manufacturing. People who can't take the time to farm for themselves will buy from other toons who can. That creates an economic cycle that will sustain itself.

sheesh.... what's next? A 10M coin tribute paid to Arch Elder each time you lvl up? argh!

A good idea, but you do realize what would happen if they started to do that after all this time of not doing that, right?

At this point anything they(PWE) do is going to **** people off. so them trying to figure out which group is going to do the least damage while being pissed off is the hard part for them. My guess is they are doing things in baby steps right now in the hopes that even though they are going to **** people off it won't be as bad as if they made a drastic change like the one you are suggesting.

I have to say even though some of your suggestions are good, the fact that you don't understand that the problems PWI has is not simple to fix and your beratement of the PWE staff and game is not helping anything other then the demise of this game escapes me.

Sagek - Sanctuary wrote: »

A good idea, but you do realize what would happen if they started to do that after all this time of not doing that, right?

At this point anything they(PWE) do is going to **** people off. so them trying to figure out which group is going to do the least damage while being pissed off is the hard part for them. My guess is they are doing things in baby steps right now in the hopes that even though they are going to **** people off it won't be as bad as if they made a drastic change like the one you are suggesting.

I have to say even though some of your suggestions are good, the fact that you don't understand that the problems PWI has is not simple to fix and your beratement of the PWE staff and game is not helping anything other then the demise of this game escapes me.

Baby steps would be fine if they would just take the first one. Hell, I'd be happy for a baby half-step at this point.

I understand that a lot of content issues are coming from Bejing. I understand that. I also understand that Bejing is trying to focus on improvement for the PWI version (as per the last expansion). Where I question the thinking is the disconnect between content, sales (PWE controled) and server economy (control shared by PWE / player base).

Slowly moving items over to where they would be in a traditional MMORPG would take a long time but it can be done. It would take a huge effort by the devs in Bejing, PWE staff, and the CM/GM teams from PWE.

Why do I berate the staff of PWE? Because I see a game that I've enjoyed being torn apart by decisions (from Bejing and PWE) that were ill-run. I've seen customer service issues that didn't have to escalate into major forum flames before they were fixed, I've seen double, triple, quadruple talk from PWE staff who cannot give a straight answer (either cannot or is not allowed to)... Even the obvious select friends of staff who get favored status (way before the arena thing even...)

I want PWI to thrive... I want it to grow. I want PWE to pretend to give a ****. What I won't do is pretend that all is great and that PW(Bejing and PWE) knows what is best. I'm sorry if I offend people by saying that PWI is shooting itself in the foot. I'm one that speaks my mind. If it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck... it must be a fraking duck. PWE, Yer quacking as we speak!

i got home from work..farted..then spend 16mill or so on some packs,got some tokens.Guess im not a pack hoe

_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »

I'm more surprised people aren't complaining about the "quest expansion list stone" thingy. Something like that should have been an update as part of the expansion. Forcing us to take part in their gambling schemes and waste tons of cash to get small upgrades to the game is ridiculous.

What next, "delta bug fix stone"? Or switch SP back and release "PvE Mode - Secret Passage stone"?

Well the Quest Expansion stone is kinda pointless since no1 does quests anymore anyways.......now a Blacklist/Friends list extention stone....that would be worth buyin packs for xD

Don'T worry if you really want that fashion. Like everything else that was only available in pack, they will put it on the cash shop once they will have milked the cow to death with the pack sale.

Wait a few weeks /months for this to happen.

Aubree - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I miss you Tyra, come play earth! Goonz also said for me to tell you that. Did you get my mail ingame?

I got the mail, tyvm b:thanks

I sent an in game reply, but you haven't logged in a few weeks I guess XD

I tried the "earth" game on the free beta weekend. Enjoyed playing a zerk, but my heart is set on playing "faction battles" - I just like how they are putting that game together. It's no sub fee, just box, so you can come play that too b:victory

Futurelord - Dreamweaver wrote: »

*Reminds everyone this is a player controlled economy*

Oh I miss the days when gold were 100k...

Thought it may be player controlled. The lack of Supply versus demand is generally what drives prices up. And then since said players get lazy instead of waiting for prices to go down (since in today's society everything is about now now now.) they pay said price and then it becomes the norm and goes from there....

KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Thought it may be player controlled. The lack of Supply versus demand is generally what drives prices up. And then since said players get lazy instead of waiting for prices to go down (since in today's society everything is about now now now.) they pay said price and then it becomes the norm and goes from there....

I know, just a reminder to the QQers to stop QQing to the devs when its their own fault.

G_tar_God - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Well the Quest Expansion stone is kinda pointless since no1 does quests anymore anyways.......now a Blacklist/Friends list extention stone....that would be worth buyin packs for xD

I`d buy bl extension stone regardless of the price b:chuckle