An LOL at Sins dying in BH Metal

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  • Azzazin - Dreamweaver
    Azzazin - Dreamweaver Posts: 502 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    I use my alt squad and keel it 2 sparks o.o;
    Things to increase survivability:

    -defense charms
    -rib strike
    -focused mind
    -demon bloodpaint before aggroing boss
    -appropriately timed absolute domain and tree of protection
    -charm
    -deaden nerves
    -doing really high dmg

    I could solo that boss with several pieces of my gear removed. Gear is only part of the equation, technique also matters.
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  • nvrmore
    nvrmore Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    5.7k hp unbuffed..all+5 refine on gears +11 daggers 3.33 base 5 aps sparked and i tank Snake just fine.
  • nvrmore
    nvrmore Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Oh! i forgot to add Imac citrines as shards.
  • Empu - Sanctuary
    Empu - Sanctuary Posts: 1,154 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    A lot of sins can't tank snakey, they just get lucky with squads that kill the boss before he frenzies. Unfortunately, they think they did tank without even noticing the overall squad bailed them through. They don't even realize snakefist isn't hard at all the first 20ish sec. Anyone can tank snakefist the first 20ish sec with bb up.

    This often leads to a to big e-peen that will push them to ridiculise themselves sooner or later when the squad doesn't kill boss fast enough.
    nvrmore wrote: »
    5.7k hp unbuffed..all+5 refine on gears +11 daggers 3.33 base 5 aps sparked and i tank Snake just fine.

    You are in the above case and deserve to die. 5.7k hp while having +11 daggers... just eewwww.
  • AshenSkies - Heavens Tear
    AshenSkies - Heavens Tear Posts: 949 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    A lot of sins can't tank snakey, they just get lucky with squads that kill the boss before he frenzies. Unfortunately, they think they did tank without even noticing the overall squad bailed them through. They don't even realize snakefist isn't hard at all the first 20ish sec. Anyone can tank snakefist the first 20ish sec with bb up.

    This often leads to a to big e-peen that will push them to ridiculise themselves sooner or later when the squad doesn't kill boss fast enough.



    You are in the above case and deserve to die. 5.7k hp while having +11 daggers... just eewwww.

    I have 5.5k HP as a pure magic wiz at level 93 and you have 5.7k HP at level 100+ as a sin, with +11 weapon?

    Let me laugh for a while...
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  • nvrmore
    nvrmore Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Oh i should have all +10 on gears that i'm not going keep right?
  • Baalbak - Dreamweaver
    Baalbak - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    nvrmore wrote: »
    Oh i should have all +10 on gears that i'm not going keep right?

    i refine armor first, orns second, weapon last. and i tend to keep doing so until the cost of refining is greater than the cost of a new piece of gear.
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  • ShamandaIie - Heavens Tear
    ShamandaIie - Heavens Tear Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    You do BH warsong with a squad? Wait, you use a squad? - lol!

    I kill the boss within a spark using a BM and sin and no one dies. People actually still need a squad for it? - lol!
  • Aboodd - Dreamweaver
    Aboodd - Dreamweaver Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited May 2012

    Love your videos' quality :D very crisp unlike most pwi vids
  • Safeng - Sanctuary
    Safeng - Sanctuary Posts: 336 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Speaking as an all +4, 5.8k hp sin... Yea, I die at mobs sometimes. If things go badly or I go nuts with my sage aoes, bye me.

    Never died at boss though. I know I can't tank him and I'm not gonna be an idiot by going all out. Keep ribstrike on and leave agro on the barb or the someone who can tank it.

    If you really need to grab agro and die due you not being able to handle it, you deserve not getting the kill. b:angry
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  • Empu - Sanctuary
    Empu - Sanctuary Posts: 1,154 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    I have 5.5k HP as a pure magic wiz at level 93 and you have 5.7k HP at level 100+ as a sin, with +11 weapon?

    Let me laugh for a while...

    Quoted wrong person ? b:chuckle

    Btw, you shouldn't laugh about it... it makes me really sad b:sad My low-budget (pure mag) cleric has more hp then his sin. Prolly more physical def too...
    nvrmore wrote: »
    Oh i should have all +10 on gears that i'm not going keep right?

    Sooooo, you got 3.33 aps base and a lot of armor you are going to change ? Yeah sure. Unless you +11ed G13 nirvana daggers (which would be against your own principle), the options are pretty limited. Your gear improvement would be either pvp orientated (in which case +10 pve gear would be far from useless) or you are going to try your luck on something like r8 recast (which is typically done by those who already have a good armor set of all +10 at least).

    I still believe you deserve to die on bh b:bye
  • nvrmore
    nvrmore Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    +11 daggers get me in 2-3 man Nirvy not a +11 chest or necklace
  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Quoted wrong person ? b:chuckle

    Btw, you shouldn't laugh about it... it makes me really sad b:sad My low-budget (pure mag) cleric has more hp then his sin. Prolly more physical def too...



    Sooooo, you got 3.33 aps base and a lot of armor you are going to change ? Yeah sure. Unless you +11ed G13 nirvana daggers (which would be against your own principle), the options are pretty limited. Your gear improvement would be either pvp orientated (in which case +10 pve gear would be far from useless) or you are going to try your luck on something like r8 recast (which is typically done by those who already have a good armor set of all +10 at least).

    I still believe you deserve to die on bh b:bye

    True, If you cant` tank it you deserve to die, leave it to people who can. b:chuckle
  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited May 2012

    secondly.. you're a wizard and therefore arcane armor. snake deals magic damage aoe. You don't have to be epic geared as a wiz to survive that.

    lmao

    uhm yes. i am many classes actually
    and my wizard was 5 aps for only a week

    later on i sold my pan gu tome
    and later on i +12ed my g13daggers (i shouldnt have done that)

    i have cube necky and belt.. they would increase defensive abilities greatly
    i wait for lower token price to make a new pan gu actually to change gear

    new warsong ticks me like mad.. and i have to use def charms on some of the bosses (water and final boss hurt)
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  • Empu - Sanctuary
    Empu - Sanctuary Posts: 1,154 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    nvrmore wrote: »
    +11 daggers get me in 2-3 man Nirvy not a +11 chest or necklace

    In good groups they just trigger a chain wisper "Resquad after this run without the fail fish, ok?". +11 armor gets you solo TT3-X and much more.

    Most don't even run nirvana anymore, especially now casters aren't bound to buying their cannies/raps, except when it's 2x. And you make it sound like nirvana is great money making.

    Btw, the ppl you do your 2-3 man nirvanas with, they are the ones tanking right ? b:laugh

    *sigh* this reminds me why I avoid wc nirvana squads like hell.
  • XxZavxX - Raging Tide
    XxZavxX - Raging Tide Posts: 603 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    In good groups they just trigger a chain wisper "Resquad after this run without the fail fish, ok?". +11 armor gets you solo TT3-X and much more.

    Most don't even run nirvana anymore, especially now casters aren't bound to buying their cannies/raps, except when it's 2x. And you make it sound like nirvana is great money making.

    Btw, the ppl you do your 2-3 man nirvanas with, they are the ones tanking right ? b:laugh

    *sigh* this reminds me why I avoid wc nirvana squads like hell.

    You do know TT 3x does not need +11? My daggerfish is pretty much +6/5 with the exception of +12 helm and 10 cape and 10 r8 daggers and can live in there in teams.

    I would say around 9k hp unbuffed is what you need for TT 3x to solo it. And the knowledge of what skills to use on what bosses.

    If I solo, I use my archer for Emperor/Steel/GBA boss. My fish could probably be pimped more for those guys... but I dont invest my coins on my fish. But in a team my sin really doesn't suffer from not having 10 or higher refines on armor...
  • nvrmore
    nvrmore Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    yea +11 armor would get me in TT3x but still. the daggers got me in nirvy when it was the place to farm and unlike u it seems. I've never been kicked from a nirvy squad. I'm sorry when yr sin had 5.5-6k hp it couldn't do what mine does.
  • Empu - Sanctuary
    Empu - Sanctuary Posts: 1,154 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    You do know TT 3x does not need +11? My daggerfish is pretty much +6/5 with the exception of +12 helm and 10 cape and 10 r8 daggers and can live in there in teams.

    I would say around 9k hp unbuffed is what you need for TT 3x to solo it. And the knowledge of what skills to use on what bosses.

    If I solo, I use my archer for Emperor/Steel/GBA boss. My fish could probably be pimped more for those guys... but I dont invest my coins on my fish. But in a team my sin really doesn't suffer from not having 10 or higher refines on armor...

    You obviously just read back far enough to see what it was about. Can't blame you, but still. It's not about what is needed to solo 3-x. It's about those sins with super-duper weapon and really bad armor that give all the sins a bad name.

    In short : I don't have anything against sins with +5 gear, but I do have something against sins with +5 armor/ornies with +10 or higher weapon.
    nvrmore wrote: »
    yea +11 armor would get me in TT3x but still. the daggers got me in nirvy when it was the place to farm and unlike u it seems. I've never been kicked from a nirvy squad. I'm sorry when yr sin had 5.5-6k hp it couldn't do what mine does.

    Lolz, out of reasonable argument already ? Think what you want about me, I won't go to that place. But be warned : most here know my gear and other toons. You'll just make a fool of yourself with that kind of talk.
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    nvrmore wrote: »
    yea +11 armor would get me in TT3x but still. the daggers got me in nirvy when it was the place to farm and unlike u it seems. I've never been kicked from a nirvy squad. I'm sorry when yr sin had 5.5-6k hp it couldn't do what mine does.

    My pure dex sin with +3 refines on most of her gear had more HP than you currently do before she was even level 90. If you're gonna run around with +11 weapon and **** armor and think you're good I sincerely hope you start getting into squads where they CAN'T cover up your utter fail just so you can get murdered several times over like you deserve.
  • Dylena - Raging Tide
    Dylena - Raging Tide Posts: 1,416 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    In all honesty, the only reason most people fail at Warsong or w/e they do is because most sins are brainless. Most people who rolled sins are pretty much demon spark macro and watching their character kill. From what I've seen on my server, most people re-roll sins because they were terrible at their previous class.

    I haven't read all posts but I've read enough to see people thinking that the right gears and sharding is all you need. If it was then I would be screwed as a DoT archer yet I can do pretty much what any other archer can do with JoSD/Vit. Same goes for my sin with 8k hp, I can pretty much do what sins can do with 10k+ HP and higher refined ornaments.

    If you know what you're doing then you can pretty much do w/e you want with decent refined armors/ornaments and weapon.
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  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    In all honesty, the only reason most people fail at Warsong or w/e they do is because most sins are brainless. Most people who rolled sins are pretty much demon spark macro and watching their character kill. From what I've seen on my server, most people re-roll sins because they were terrible at their previous class.

    I haven't read all posts but I've read enough to see people thinking that the right gears and sharding is all you need. If it was then I would be screwed as a DoT archer yet I can do pretty much what any other archer can do with JoSD/Vit. Same goes for my sin with 8k hp, I can pretty much do what sins can do with 10k+ HP and higher refined ornaments.

    If you know what you're doing then you can pretty much do w/e you want with decent refined armors/ornaments and weapon.

    This thread is full of win.

    And the red is so true -_-. (My server as well.)
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  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Agree with the red as well. Sins are the new veno.

    Glad to see all the people that agree that they deserve to die / lose kill. Now if we could just make it PC to kill w/o them.
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  • Annalyse - Heavens Tear
    Annalyse - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,618 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    We had a cleric with the level 95 Morai weapon sharded Alabaster in Metal the other day. It felt like the mobs hit twice as hard due to lack of healing.

    I've always been someone who took pretty much anyone in squads that needed things, regardless of gear. But I'm seriously at the point of kicking clerics out of squad if they only have Morai weapons.
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  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Cleric's need an lol thread too. Most anymore are just chroma spammers with morai weapons that complain when they heal an Assassin that gets multiple mobs on them. b:laugh
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  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    In all honesty, the only reason most people fail at Warsong or w/e they do is because most sins are brainless. Most people who rolled sins are pretty much demon spark macro and watching their character kill. From what I've seen on my server, most people re-roll sins because they were terrible at their previous class.

    I haven't read all posts but I've read enough to see people thinking that the right gears and sharding is all you need. If it was then I would be screwed as a DoT archer yet I can do pretty much what any other archer can do with JoSD/Vit. Same goes for my sin with 8k hp, I can pretty much do what sins can do with 10k+ HP and higher refined ornaments.

    If you know what you're doing then you can pretty much do w/e you want with decent refined armors/ornaments and weapon.

    It`s mostly plain timing <.<. My sin is R8 +8 on wep, 3.33aps demon sparked and +5 armors & orns. Next I`ll be working on +6ing my armors and orns, pan gu whenever I can farm those 300 more frags and resharding the flawless citrines to lumi shards when I got prest/influence for it. My sin got 6k hp unbuffed, 8.2k with my demon barb buff and I dont die on the normal snake anymore. I have tanked the new one but it was more of luck than anything, he hits me far too hard for me to tank it reliably.

    I`ve done my sin to farm and share gear with archer, thus the allaround choice of citrines felt pretty obvious. I actually been feeling like I want some garnets on my gear but it`s so PvE oriented choice that I`ve so far skipped it. Maybe sharding R8 chest with em? But with the Snake in question, citrines would be better option. Oh well, I just keep refining my lunar ring and think of changing my R8 ring to something I can refine <.<
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    tweakz wrote: »
    Cleric's need an lol thread too. Most anymore are just chroma spammers with morai weapons that complain when they heal an Assassin that gets multiple mobs on them. b:laugh

    I'm seeing this a lot more often too.
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  • ZoracGallant - Raging Tide
    ZoracGallant - Raging Tide Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Healing b:puzzled what's that I'm a metal mage biitches
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  • EkaAstato - Lost City
    EkaAstato - Lost City Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    everytime i do ws on mys i wonder how a standard brainless squad (4 sins, 1 barb & 1 cleric) -unless you are r9- can do bh ws... i aways heal when im at boss (lvl 11 heals... it can heals around 4.5k with cleric buff)+cleric's BB and yet it seems not enought! if i dont heal the sins always die... and its even funnier how them tell me to heal when im actually healing while they have their hands in pocket and watching their sins hitting sanake with demon spark macro.
  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    everytime i do ws on mys i wonder how a standard brainless squad (4 sins, 1 barb & 1 cleric) -unless you are r9- can do bh ws... i aways heal when im at boss (lvl 11 heals... it can heals around 4.5k with cleric buff)+cleric's BB and yet it seems not enought! if i dont heal the sins always die... and its even funnier how them tell me to heal when im actually healing while they have their hands in pants and fapping to their sins hitting snake with demon spark macro.

    Win editing.b:chuckle
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  • EkaAstato - Lost City
    EkaAstato - Lost City Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Win editing.b:chuckle

    LOL b:laugh