Advice for next gear

I'd say that as far as PvE is concerned, you're pretty much done. Just refines and shards that are left.

TwentyThree - Dreamweaver wrote: »

My plan was to get the R8 recast daggers and attempt for -.05 int and +20 atk levels, since the odds to get that are too low for the g15 nirvana daggers.

Any input is appreciated, but keep in mind that for my play style, +20 atk level is significantly better than sac strike. b:victory

That would be a waste of your current daggers, don't you think? The chance of getting -0.05 int on recast r8 is abysmal (0.13%) compared to 2nd nirv (5%). Rerolling recast daggers is also a LOT more expensive than nirvana, at current prices you could probably reroll nirvy daggers 6 times for the costs of 1 recast r8 reroll.

TwentyThree - Dreamweaver wrote: »

But as I understand it, once I get either add on the R8 recast, I can keep the add and only reroll the other two, whereas nirvana is just a blind roll each time.

Nope, once you get adds you like you can reroll their values to possibly have them maxed.

Say you get 10 attack levels, max phys attack +80 and dex +8, then you can reroll the values in hopes of getting higher ones, the best outcome being 25 attack levels, 180 phys attack and 20 dex.

_Skai_ - Raging Tide wrote: »

And also, you will not like how rare Damascene ores are.

I guess that just depends on the server, they're around 12mil each here on HT with plenty going around. There is almost always about 10-15 on them for sale around the base manager, there was even a catshop selling 32 of them a while ago (perhaps it's still there b:chuckle).

SpazzMcAps - Harshlands wrote: »

arent the adds mutually exclusive?

No.

+20 Attack Levels is a Unique mod for either recast R8 or G15 Nirvana, whereas -interval is a random mod.

TwentyThree - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Right, I understand what you guys have said. When I said "you can keep one mod and reroll the other two" I meant, if I were to get a -int add, I could keep that while I got 2 more random ones (1 unique).

Yeah that's not how it works for R8r sadly. Like we said, it's just like Nirvana casting.

Either way, the math seems pretty bad for going the R8 recast route, even if damascene ores are abundant (and I read the thread about them being....not). I will probably just get my current G13 daggers +12, and get my ornaments +10 after that.

Additional offense on top of the +12 will likely take another expansion or something, idk what.

If you plan on buying the Damascene or to reshape, be prepared to pay a good 45m per reshape. For Nirvana, it only takes 7 raptures, which priced at 1.3m each is 9.1m.

So if you want the statistical cost of getting 20 attack levels and -int on the following daggers, here they are:

Odds for +20 Attack Levels and -0.05 interval on G15 Nirvana: 1/500
Odds for +20 Attack Levels and -0.05 interval on recast R8: 1/1,153

500 casts to get those stats on a G15 vana dagger = 500*7 raptures = 3500 raptures * 1.3m each = 4,550m, or 4.55 billion coins.

1,153 casts to get those stats on a R8r dagger = 1,153*((90 Memorial coin * 30k each) + (12 Adam whetstones * 700k each) + (3 Damascenes * ~10m each) + 2m) = 1,153*(43.1m) = 49,694.3m, or almost 49.7 billion coins.

Those are just the statistical odds though. As always you could cast it twice and get the adds on both weapons, or cast them 20k times and still not have it.

SpazzMcAps - Harshlands wrote: »

I meant that as, Do the odds of one add affect the odds of a different add?

No.

Just that any combination of adds obviously has lower odds than any single add. It's called independent probability.

Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »

Look at you adding a little mathematical science to the sin forums b:cute

Assassins can use bows effectively as well, after all b:chuckle

Why not just work towards a recast r9 dagger? The extra 10 attack levels would help in bp to even out gof damage easier.

After that, you can work on getting double interval on recast r8 boots.

23 I know you like omalley blessing and you have a sage barb so I've come up with this. http://pwcalc.com/a11b7d8e1dc95058 +10 and 2 garnet gems would be easy enough for R9 daggers.

You have 12084 hp in that scenario, so 5% loss is 604 hp. at 4 aps and 20% chance to proc thats 80% chance to proc per second. 80% of 604 hp is 483 hp lost per second

Now lets look at your dps. 19082+23299 / 2 is an average dph of 21,190. 21,190 at 4 aps is 84,760. multiply that by 1.37 for a 37% crit rate, multiply by 1.5 for 50 attack levels, and multiply by 1.2 for a 20% chance to do double damage with GoF. That's 209,018 dps

Now of course against bosses there is a masssive damage reduction, its a reduction of roughly 75%, so your dps is now 209,018 / 4 = 52,254

Bloodpaint heals you for 2% of damage dealt, 2% of 52,254 is 1,045 bloodsuck per second.

1,045 hp gained per second - 483 hp lost per second = 562 hp gained per second.

My point is, you don't lose hp with sacrificial strike or with GoF, +12ing G13 daggers would be a waste.




I went ahead and tried the same thing with an endgame build, you still are gaining 441 hp per second. http://pwcalc.com/e18d6c6c217d07bf


edit: oh yeah and none of this was calculating wolf emblem, power dash, genie skills, or anything else of that nature, which just makes your dps and therefore your healing even higher.