[Attention] LF > Goon Glitch update from PWE Staff

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  • Tremblewith - Heavens Tear
    Tremblewith - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,558 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    nothinaa wrote: »
    Ohh please you bragged about how you don't even play the game anymore and get your jollies off on the forum lol.

    Keep on bumping and trollin bro.

    Lol, you just can't read. If anyone is "trollin" here, it's you. But keep thinking what you want. It won't change anything, and I will continue to do what you call "trollin", lol.
  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    10 internets says its just gonna be "We totally messed up on this one guys. LOL soz. Anywho nothings being, enjoy!" but only in customer service-ese. At any rate, I would like a response either way just so it can be over and done with. :P And hoping this new exp instance works out well. :P
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  • VKnightV - Lost City
    VKnightV - Lost City Posts: 381 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    nothinaa wrote: »
    WTF lol how has a mod not closed this troll thread?

    It's so pathetic the mods don't know how to do their jobs and moderate the damn forums. Seriously how pathetic is that this QQ fest was allowed to fester for so long when it should have been closed on PAGE 1.

    I think we need some new moderators that aren't afraid to do their job. It's ridiculous how much pathetic whiny complaint threads demanding GM attention there are.



    nobady put a gun over your head forcing you to post in this thread so unless you have something important to say plz post elsewhere we are many who wish to have this done and over with.
    maybe your one of those offenders and try to hide your own guilt why attacking tremble but plz stop you look even worse when you do.

    now plz let us who want a officiall respond get it b:cute
  • Tsukyini - Raging Tide
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide Posts: 1,766 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    10 internets says its just gonna be "We totally messed up on this one guys. LOL soz. Anywho nothings being, enjoy!" but only in customer service-ese. At any rate, I would like a response either way just so it can be over and done with. :P And hoping this new exp instance works out well. :P

    The fact that Frankie has instructed this thread to remain open while he prepares whatever the response is makes me think that maybe it will be something other than that.

    Otherwise, really, he should have just said they'd decided to do nothing and ended the discussion when Tremble made his first thread about this. b:surrender
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  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    The fact that Frankie has instructed this thread to remain open while he prepares whatever the response is makes me think that maybe it will be something other than that.

    Or they figured they're sick of Tremblewith spamming them so they left him a place to rant. b:chuckle
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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    The fact that Frankie has instructed this thread to remain open while he prepares whatever the response is makes me think that maybe it will be something other than that.

    Otherwise, really, he should have just said they'd decided to do nothing and ended the discussion when Tremble made his first thread about this. b:surrender

    I don't know if there is anything that they really can do at this point though. b:surrender
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  • ImNotFeelnIt - Heavens Tear
    ImNotFeelnIt - Heavens Tear Posts: 211 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Or they figured they're sick of Tremblewith spamming them so they left him a place to rant. b:chuckle

    (points at nose)

    That's the one.
  • Tremblewith - Heavens Tear
    Tremblewith - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,558 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Day 50 of waiting for PWE staff to give us an update.

    Congrats on 50 days all!
  • VKnightV - Lost City
    VKnightV - Lost City Posts: 381 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    keep it up tremble you might end up becoming a big factor to this game when the news come out whatever it is.

    not so shabby

    and let keep this thread alive and kicking and yay 50 days b:cute
  • Sneaker - Dreamweaver
    Sneaker - Dreamweaver Posts: 125 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    i agree lets keep it up :)

    Sneaker 104 sage sin

    105 wiz all r9 :)

    101 BM all brought up the hard way :)

    been here since closed Beta :)
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  • NecroTwist - Sanctuary
    NecroTwist - Sanctuary Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Thing is. He can't ban a lot of people for it because it was their fault for not fixing it moment they noticed the glitch. but the people who abused the glitch hardcore should be banned and in fact they probably are. just cause theres 105's cause of goon glitch does not mean they should be banned because it is PWI's fault for not taking down the server the day/2nd day they noticed the glitch.

    You are wrong, I've played a few games where they RESET EVERYTHING back over a MONTH simply because a glitch was used. The excuse they gave about not doing anything about the violators because they felt it was their fault was ridiculous.

    The Terms of Service
    http://www.perfectworld.com/about/terms

    If you look at section 11 sub (l) you will see :
    (l) Using or exploiting any bugs, errors, or design flaws to obtain unauthorized access to the Service or to gain an unfair advantage over other players

    Interestingly, after reading this, I found this just a little bit down:
    PWE may take any actions and impose any penalties we deem necessary to discourage and punish any violation of these terms or any other illegal or inappropriate conduct, all without prior notice or warning. The determination as to whether a violation has occurred and who is responsible for such act is solely within PWE's discretion, and is based on what we deem best for the community and the Website. By using the Website, you agree you will be bound by PWE's determination as to whether a violation has occurred and any penalty we choose to implement.

    I've bolded a few specifics that plainly state if you clearly and pointedly violate the ToS, they don't actually have to do anything. So, i think what happened was (pure conjecture of course) is that they looked at the account records of the accused and decided that since they made thousands of dollars off of these ppl it was fine that they cheated the system.

    In any case, in respect to to getting an actual helpful response from the GM's/Dev's, you'd be better off chopping off both your legs and arms, it'd be easier too.

    Example, simple solution to fix one annoyance in the GUI:
    Ticket-
    HI, ive noticed with the new ten man squads, the squad list now forms on top of our pets status window every time you enter a squad. i understand the positioning of the squad menu for ppl with smaller screens. so, my thought is to allow the pet window to be moveable and lock into that spot so we dont have to constantly keep moving things

    thanks

    Response-
    Thank you for the suggestion. We will forward it to the developers for their consideration.
    That was almost two months ago. Pretty much all they would have to do would be add coding similar to the chat windows positioning code to the pet window code. Simple. But oh well, learned to deal with having to move the squad list everytime i join one on my mystic and veno.
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  • Tsukyini - Raging Tide
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide Posts: 1,766 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    I don't know if there is anything that they really can do at this point though. b:surrender

    They could (but in all likelyhood probably aren't) be pulling a Square-Enix.

    Google "LM-17 1-22-2009" without quotes, and go to the first link.

    SE fixed the glitch in November 2008 but did not break out the banhammer until January, due to them needing to go through so many logs to find offenders.

    Before the hammer came down, a lot of people claimed that SE wouldn't do anything, because they'd lose too many of the *elite* players if they did. And wouldn't you know it, yup, a bunch of those people did indeed get the hammer.

    People say that PWE won't do anything to the glitchers because they're the biggest CSers or whatever. But, hey, if you glitched to 105 and CSed your R9..... they already got your money. And if you glitched your way up but merchanted/farmed for your R9..... well, they aren't losing anything by banning you because you aren't giving them money anyway. b:chuckle

    But yeah, prolly nothing like that will happen.
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  • unceuncerave
    unceuncerave Posts: 471 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Why is this QQ thread still open other then for +1 count?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] for GD Onion 2012 b:victory
  • Tremblewith - Heavens Tear
    Tremblewith - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,558 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Why is this QQ thread still open other then for +1 count?

    To get a response from a staff member of Perfect World Entertainment.
  • unceuncerave
    unceuncerave Posts: 471 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    K +1 while we get a non-existent reply.
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  • ZoracGallant - Raging Tide
    ZoracGallant - Raging Tide Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Frankie posted awhile ago that something would be done to the glitchers "soon" so he has responded, just hasn't come back again to say soon is now
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  • wooord
    wooord Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Says the lvl 103

    Okay so you're saying for PWE to ban all the lvl 105's etc when in reality they are the biggest source of revenue to this game most being r8, r9+ refine 10+... and furthermore these people who obviously cash shop and buy stuff that keeps the game free for the rest of us, then allows us to be able to purchase something we may not have been able to without putting real money into the game. You want them to be banned.

    Sorry but PWE is a business. Go look at all the other mmorpgs out there.
    ((NOTHING IS LIKE THIS GAME)) With these awesome graphics and amazing features PWE offers us. We are truly lucky and take it for granted. Go do a comparison, no game like this is out there. If you want this game to stay free to play I'd stop complaining if I were you.b:shutup
    those people that you talk about are not the real cashcows, those people that have their whole faction 105, are the same ones **** every server from day one. Its such the greed that they now make alt factions for tw to hold land around their main faction and make more free coins, they are the same that already farmed r9 for all its members and are about done farming it for their alts too. i wonder how farming and getting free coins for r9 helps pwi in anyway. when you get a free r9 weapon a week you dont really need to spend real cash, but its all good, they make their money and i dont care about them being banned , but i do care about them being reset to 102-103 a lvl everyone can get to. What if pwi impliments something for 104+ to farm, 75% of all servers will be stuck for a year in FC, while a small group already glitched to 105 is making tons of sells..
  • MageMERC - Harshlands
    MageMERC - Harshlands Posts: 1,600 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    The Terms of Service
    http://www.perfectworld.com/about/terms

    If you look at section 11 sub (l) you will see :
    (l) Using or exploiting any bugs, errors, or design flaws to obtain unauthorized access to the Service or to gain an unfair advantage over other players


    Was there an unfair advantage over other players? Couldnt everyone do it equally?
  • Tsukyini - Raging Tide
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide Posts: 1,766 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Was there an unfair advantage over other players? Couldnt everyone do it equally?

    Everyone could do the glitch, but not without fear of punishment. For people who refuse to knowingly break the rules, no, it wasn't really an equal opportunity.
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  • Tremblewith - Heavens Tear
    Tremblewith - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,558 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Frankie posted awhile ago that something would be done to the glitchers "soon" so he has responded, just hasn't come back again to say soon is now

    Pretty much. What was originally stated was by frankieraye, who stated a list of cashshoppers and non-cashshoppers had been compiled and there would be action "soon". This was many months ago now. The next response was in this thread saying again; "soon".

    Until there is a concrete answer upon this topic, it will be brought up 'till the end of time (more likely, until the end of PWI/PWE). I'm sorry, but stating "soon" doesn't count as an update anyone cares to hear. I can say I'll take a wizz "soon", but if I don't take it for 48 straight hours and must seek medical attention; this isn't "soon".

    Time is relative.
  • seitori
    seitori Posts: 1,328 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    I just hope that, what one of the supposedly 'Admitted {JFC Babies}' said like last week, wasn't the Sad Truth of the matter...... And that it was just a Total Lie, Perpetrated by a bored TROLL, up too no good.......b:cold

    Because, all that 1 had said was......


    That he began too (Pay His Way)
    'Up from the Bottom & all the way too the TOP!' And then found that he was 1 of those on the list, apparently......



    And said he had 'Learned His Lesson' from the Very 'Harshness of his Punishment' for having cheated his way to the top! 'And had Payed His Debt to Society!'__b:shedtear__By having that 1 single character (None of others on his account mind you.) BaNnEd!!!!!!b:cry


    for like 4 whole whooping day's!?!????!??



    While still being able to play freely, on any of his other characters supposedly, during that time?????~~???~?!?????b:surrender



    I seriously hope, that he was just
    'BLOWING Smoke' up our collective @****!!! Because, I don't see that as being an adequate punishment at all, if all that their getting is a (Light Handed) Slap on their PiNkY, for Breaking the (ToS's) Meanings & Agreements, in such a major way..........b:sweat




    (ADMINs), Please, I know that 'PUNISHMENT & BAN' Talks on the FORUMS, is a NO no!! But Please....




    All I'm asking of you, is that you confirm that what that supposed {JFC'r} said, about that Supposedly Laughable ~ Description ~ Of a punishment, was a Lie.........

    And that you guys, still haven't started on their 'Punishments' as of yet..... Please!? Thats all that I ask......



    Just Say it AIN'T SO???!? PlEaSe!???????




    And No, I'm Being Honest (This Is NO Troll) This is what I Honestly heard him say, was his Supposed Punishment........~_~'??
  • nothinaa
    nothinaa Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Lol, you just can't read. If anyone is "trollin" here, it's you. But keep thinking what you want. It won't change anything, and I will continue to do what you call "trollin", lol.

    Ya your not a forum troll. You just enjoy bad mouthing the game and the staff while advertising other F2P games on the forum and bragging that you dont play PWI. I can tell how much you actually care.

    Run as fast as you can. The game is broken beyond repair, and the staff are non-existent in all possible ways (in-game, ticket/customer support, and forums). There a few good F2P MMOs out there. However, games like Wars w/ Guilds duece seems to be quite the popular choice among MMOs (I may have already purchased my copy of the pre-purchase release ).

    Youre awesome dude keep it up
  • upsides
    upsides Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    nothinaa wrote: »
    Ya your not a forum troll. You just enjoy bad mouthing the game and the staff while advertising other F2P games on the forum and bragging that you dont play PWI. I can tell how much you actually care.

    Relax. You don't need to get so stressed over this. You need to stop worrying about what other people are and know that your opinion of the OP does not matter.

    The OP fairly criticizing this game isn't something you should be complaining about. That people will always be allowed to criticize the game is an option that will always remain open no matter what you say. It's time you accept that and move on.
  • chaoticshelly
    chaoticshelly Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    nothinaa, please keep the topic in mind - I asked you once, I don't want to ask you again.
  • Retsuko - Heavens Tear
    Retsuko - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,016 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    It's kind of sad to see people expect something from pwi. While they know that pwi can't really do much on this matter. That makes this thread a big joke.
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  • nothinaa
    nothinaa Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    nothinaa, please keep the topic in mind - I asked you once, I don't want to ask you again.

    Sorry but there is nothing off-topic about discussing the purpose of a thread. This thread is and always has been a troll thread and that is the topic I am discussing. This person is pretending to represent the interest of a game he doesn't even play and constantly bad mouths while advertising other games.

    As someone who actually still plays the game, I am offended a troll pretends to represent a community he is not a part of.
  • chaoticshelly
    chaoticshelly Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    It's already been stated that the topic is legit and remains open by CM request. Whether the OP is a troll or not should be kept as a personal opinion or otherwise it might look like you're flaming and defaming a member of the forum community.

    If you have any further issues with this topic, or the person who opened it, you're welcome to PM me or FrankieRaye and express them, but doing it publicly in the manner you have chosen is not allowed.
  • Tremblewith - Heavens Tear
    Tremblewith - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,558 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Day 51 of waiting for PWE staff to give us an update.
  • Linc - Raging Tide
    Linc - Raging Tide Posts: 589 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Day 51 of waiting for PWE staff to give us an update.

    checkmate

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  • Tsukyini - Raging Tide
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide Posts: 1,766 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    It's kind of sad to see people expect something from pwi. While they know that pwi can't really do much on this matter. That makes this thread a big joke.

    Actually, PWE can do something about it. There have always been several options available to them:

    1. Enforce the "Use of this glitch is bannable" rule and permaban all offenders.

    2. Enforce the "Use of this glitch is bannable" rule and temp ban those who only used it a *little* and perma hammer the ones who abused the balls out of it. The determining line between "a little" and "a lot" would be best defined by the total amount of exp gained from the glitched dragoons, as opposed to levels gained, since the amount needed to level up from 101+ is exponentially higher than lower levels.

    3. Permaban the players who glitched and never CS'ed while giving the CS'ing glitchers a slap on the wrist, varying from a wag of the finger and saying "Bad! Bad!" to a 3 day temp ban, depending on how much money said player had spent.

    4. Admit that they have no plans to punish anyone and have been trolling us this whole time.


    Number 4 is probably the most likely outcome. b:chuckle
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