Why are there so few newcomers?

Yeah, i think less new players now, if they are low levels *born*, most of them are alt and most of them dont do normal leveling quest anymore...most of them just go for fast leveling in FCC...yeah sadly, not many doing the normal leveling anymore..b:cold

Common sense dictate most new players head straight to the newest server since it's...new.

This mindset is common.

Common sense.

People are lacking much of this these days...

Damn you Oprah!

seitori wrote: »

It gets even worse when, the actual rare 'New Comers' who do show up to try and play the game, find so very few 'other players' of their own levels to squad up with and then run the quests with.......b:worried

Its no wonder so many of them Quit Playing after they initially tried to play in the first place.......b:cold

and this is why people should start a game with a friend ... i mean, i know its very hard to find bh parties for the lower levels ... they should make an event where if u sign up, you have your friend sign up referring your name (on a different IP address) and if you get to like, 30 or something, you each get 5 gold ... idk, some kinda event like that (that people cant abuse easily)

Vixter - Harshlands wrote: »

and this is why people should start a game with a friend ... i mean, i know its very hard to find bh parties for the lower levels ... they should make an event where if u sign up, you have your friend sign up referring your name (on a different IP address) and if you get to like, 30 or something, you each get 5 gold ... idk, some kinda event like that (that people cant abuse easily)

Yeah agreed, it would be nice if they'd come up with something like you put here.....b:thanks


But sadly, it looks more & more like the (Devs) don't even want to try anything like that anymore, they only seem interested in only authorizing '1 sale after another' to try and bilk as much coin as they can outta everyone & this game now, until it finally does go under though......b:surrender


I'm seriously starting to wonder why (PWE) is seemingly, so Hellbent into turning {PWi} into the next {SWG} Cause their pretty close to killing it now, just like that other company killed {SWG} b:flower


b:sweat

I like this thread +1

I hope the powers that be watch this. I hope it keeps going and people keep giving their opinions.

My 2 cents would be that the players do not support the game they play and spend more time complaining about the way the game has become and not focusing on what the game could be. more could be said.

Toliman - Raging Tide wrote: »

If you are new player:
1. You enter at empty starting place
2. You do dozens initial quests, which give you (sometimes temporary) items
3. Using new 5/10/15/25 level quests you quickly raise up to level may be 30.
4. Then you start asking, what to do next, look at world chat may be and see following:
1) FC leveling,
2) Vortex leveling.

5. If you are interested in it you start to do FC up to some level (may be even 100).
6. If not and you see, that 1 high level item cost more, than total reward of all possible quests, you stop to play or start work every day with thoughts like: "Month later I will buy this item."

I feel like this post is a great summary of the problem with newcomers today.

You see, PWI is a great game for people who never played MMORPGs before, as well as for experienced gamers. But before FC leveling became so popular, people sat and played this game for as high as level 90+, engaged with other players who did the same, and were drawn deeper into the content of the game.

The starting areas are no longer surrounded with new players because in my humble opinion, the game a) isn't advertised enough anymore (for example, when I started playing nearly 3 years ago there were online advertisements everywhere) and less and less people hear about the game, and b) those who do try it see an empty area and leave since there is no one to guide them through.

And of course, those who get to level 30 get to the main area and see little to no players their level to play with (since a lot of players, new or alts - power leveled) and may even result to power leveling themselves. It's enough that you join a guild to do FC runs for absolutely no charge to level to 90 within a few days or weeks.

Now, this isn't a complaint about the community - I've already come to an understanding that power leveling isn't something that I can fight. However, since there are less and less people coming into this game, and less of them are playing this game as they were initially intended, the areas up to level 60 or even 70, have emptied nearly entirely.

The point of this is that this is life and this is the evolution this game has made, sadly, we can't help it. Unless PWE puts a level limit of FC some day and pushes this game in advertisements as well as offers more content and less dailies that require little to no playability, we will see less and less people actually coming into this game and staying.

First of all this game wins more money then my country president and they can afford to make some advertising. Second I think there are new players but they play a while and they see no drop items, no drop coins, mission very hard without squad like BH, Spiritual Cultivation and other. The problem of this game is not power lvl, the problem is that the characters depend to much on others. The game must be a little improved so pepole can play this game solo. at least at low lvl's. NO one help you in BH anymore or quest. Imagine a cleric lvl 20-30 try to do mission and Spiritual solo...NOT A CHANCE. So as long as u need 6 people to play this game and no drop, no coins, new players will quit after few days of game.

RyuTiger - Raging Tide wrote: »

...Imagine a cleric lvl 20-30 try to do mission and Spiritual solo...NOT A CHANCE. So as long as u need 6 people to play this game and no drop, no coins, new players will quit after few days of game.

Cleric can do it at low levels.

About coins ... it is possible also for Cleric.

But BH is same as for all classes.

Drops and quest's rewards are not related with Cash shop items though, what mean same work for high level equipment.

truekossy wrote: »

When I made my cleric I solo'd everything pre-30. And this was before we had blessings, genies, supply stash, etc. So it's not impossible.

Your overall point is kinda bad because if people want everything to be done solo... well... we have console games for that. The whole point of a MMO is the social interaction and doing stuff with people. Unfortunately, with everyone being powerleveled or an alt of an alt of an alt the few new people that pop up really have no incentive or reason to stick around. And with the lack of advertising, there's not even a decent flow of them so that the newbies can at least hang out with others that are new.

Doing stuff with people, what people??
No one help you at low level's and at high levels they want rank and 5 aps, get real! Even if 1000 people come to the game they will still be broke and have no coins and no items and they will quit because big lvl's are rude to new ones. The game dont stand a chance if they dont change things around. The only thing they can do is quit to much servers and let 4 max. 2 PVP and 2 PVE.

BerserkBeast - Sanctuary wrote: »

I don't understand why most players think that most of the new players don't do quest anymore and instead buy FCC heads...I mean,where the heck a NEW player gets the funds to buy FCC heads ?,unless he charge zen ofc,but I don't see "Most" of em charging Zen.
Those"new" players you say are probably alts with mains who actually have the money to fund these "services".

Also

Why the heck people think that only because some random newbie heard about fcc heads immediatly think"omfg Im gonna buy a tons of em now!"?,I seriously known quite a "few" new players that aren't interested in fast levelling,and I don't even think that the majority of em its obssessed in power levelling either.

Read about how someone Looking for new friends to help each other lvl up :

Straxx - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I've tried playing the game solo for too long. Long enough that it gets boring. I would like the opportunity to play the game with anyone that needs help with quests, in turn, they would help me with mine. If there is anyone that would be interested, contact me on the game with details about when you play, so that we can meet up and kill some mobs! Thanks!

ChaoticShelly wrote: »

I feel like this post is a great summary of the problem with newcomers today.

You see, PWI is a great game for people who never played MMORPGs before, as well as for experienced gamers. But before FC leveling became so popular, people sat and played this game for as high as level 90+, engaged with other players who did the same, and were drawn deeper into the content of the game.

The starting areas are no longer surrounded with new players because in my humble opinion, the game a) isn't advertised enough anymore (for example, when I started playing nearly 3 years ago there were online advertisements everywhere) and less and less people hear about the game, and b) those who do try it see an empty area and leave since there is no one to guide them through.

And of course, those who get to level 30 get to the main area and see little to no players their level to play with (since a lot of players, new or alts - power leveled) and may even result to power leveling themselves. It's enough that you join a guild to do FC runs for absolutely no charge to level to 90 within a few days or weeks.

Now, this isn't a complaint about the community - I've already come to an understanding that power leveling isn't something that I can fight. However, since there are less and less people coming into this game, and less of them are playing this game as they were initially intended, the areas up to level 60 or even 70, have emptied nearly entirely.

The point of this is that this is life and this is the evolution this game has made, sadly, we can't help it. Unless PWE puts a level limit of FC some day and pushes this game in advertisements as well as offers more content and less dailies that require little to no playability, we will see less and less people actually coming into this game and staying.

Restore FC to the original instance, there is realy no need for an XP instance
Remove XP from PQ (only the completion rewards should grand you xp)


To level up there are enough options already.

1.BH
2. storyline quests
3.OHT
4.Events
5.Crazy stone (if you have a little extra cash)

No FC/PQ powerleveling means leveling to 100 becomes a fun and challenging activity to do with friends.

(btw, Old FC can still be a way to lvl up if you farm the mats and turn them in for orders)

edit: Forgot to mention Delta
edit2: didn't they add another XP instance recently?

Manostra - Harshlands wrote: »

Every game have a life Cycle and PWE is known to let Games die. Its not about getting new Players its about keeping the existing ones until the point is reached where the income from the servers isnt statsifying anymore and they shut the game down.

The first Servers that will shut down are the EU Servers , Maybe they will shut down one PVE Server East and West coast until they have only 1 server left and some days

Lights off

The company's named after this game... I doubt they will let it die. PW2? Dunno...

Leveling pace. When I purchased a new computer. This was the first game I downloaded and installed. I then went on to level a variety of toons. The highest I got was level twenty something. The pace went to a sudden stall. The gameplay essentially became, kill a few mobs, meditate. Kill a few mobs, meditate again. The autoroute feature was also kind of odd since it goes straight in a bee line. If I had wings, that wouldnt be a problem. But the real turn off was the suddenly slow pace once you reach level 20.

ChaoticShelly wrote: »

A lot of factions will add newbies, and offer to run FC for free to level up newbies in order to keep them in the faction, as well as strengthen the faction for future TW. A few of the factions I was in, and that friends of mine are in, do it on a regular basis.

Maybe on whatever server you're on, but I've never seen this done in any faction I'm in. >_> Nobody wants to invest time and effort into someone unless they are going to stick around, simply because even if they do, they're gonna be a powerleveled noob. Then again, I'm in factions with people that all leveled up before goons came about, 'old school' players I guess, so maybe it's just where I'm at.

TW is more or less the only thing that keeps me playing right now, so... I don't go roaming the starting areas.

I don't get it

If we're talking about alt players with a main *who have money* or someone that can charge money every week I understand

But HOW levelling its supposed to help a new player?
Getting to 100...yes there are the BH100 rewards and stuff,but what?,equipment still requires money does that factions gives away free equipment too?

And explain me how a "TW" faction thinks to be competitive with a bunch of hyper-levelled people with lv.70-80 gear and *maybe* not even decent experience at playing their class?

How those people really think to help *new* players?