Helping decision on a class?

First off, welcome to the game! Believe me when I say, we need a lot more gamers around who are concerned with playing the game well and can speak intelligently.

As for your concerns, psychics are not necessarily better than wizards any more than any of the classes are better than one another. Every class has their advantages and disadvantages. Personally, I prefer squading with wizards in most cases because the sustainable(constant) AOE damage can be incredibly useful.

Psychics have their advantages as well though and I've seen them do some wicked damage in PVP.

But, as for your bottom line question, both are useful end game. Both are wanted for caster Nirvana, for good FC squads, both are useful in Delta.

I will be honest with you though, finding FC squads on a wizard around lvl 80 can be difficult(Or so I'm told.). I had the same experience on my veno. Uninformed squads think the only successful squad is a barb, cleric, BM, two sins and a random.(Usually a seeker or another BM) But in my experience, once I got up to 99+ most of the squads seemed a lot more open minded and willing to realise that there are many successful squads.

The advice I give most people is, if you wonder what class you want to play, try them all. You can have two accounts, so you can make one of every class. When I started this game I thought I'd end up being an assassin since I've always been an assassin/rogue class. I tried out the venomancer class just for kicks and completely fell in love, any other class just doesn't click for me how it did with my veno. Maybe you'll have a similar experience.

_Nerox_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

This game sucks.
you can get to lvl 100 in 5 days and buy the endgame gear for ~1500$.

I would recomend another game, this one is dying

Just because some people are dumb enough to power level that way doesn't mean that it ruins the game for all of us. How we choose to play as individuals has a lot to do with how long the game stays entertaining. b:chuckle

beastmasterjr wrote: »

I would just like to comment on the people who are talking about "cash gets you everything".... you have the option to farm the money and earn your gear the normal way, or level normally and not get increased xp, buy runs etc. Just like building a car, you can build it up from the ground or you could just buy one that someone has already worked on and get the best you want... doesn't mean it is pointless for the people who want to build it up over time?

Yeah fair enough, I see clerics are really needed but I have also heard that they take forever to level as their solo capabilities are really bad and as much as I care about the late game and not so much the early game I don't want the early game to be PAINFUL lol.

First off, welcome to the game! I quoted you here because the game really does need more people who think like you, and will work on their characters instead of just power leveling and cash shopping everything. And like someone else said, people who are willing to take the time to actually type their comments out in proper english lol
For you're second comment, clerics are always needed, and honestly they're a really good class to solo things with because you never have to buy hp pots. Well, really my comment pertains to mobs, bosses are a different story, but bosses are hard for any class.
As for your primary question, I LOVE wizzies. As you can tell, my main is one, and it took me the best part of 3 years to settle on a main, but I wouldn't change now for anything lol In my experience, wizzies are useful in tons of situations, and I never had a problem getting an FC squad for example, or a BH one in earlier levels. People who know the potential of wizzies are often really happy to see me in squads because of the continuous AoE and hard hitting single target skills. Despite this, I would have to say Psychics have the advantage in pvp certainly, maybe in pve, but I havent played one nearly as extensively as I have my wizzie. I tried playing a psychic, but i found it... boring I suppose. Wizzies have a bigger variety of skills I think, and I like having the elemental choice for different mobs. I'll
stop there cause I could go on for hours about how awesome I think wizzies are lol
As for BMs, they are always wanted too, for the stuns/AoEs/HF, and the dps.
Hope that wall of text helps instead of putting you off because theres so much of it b:chuckle

PS to the people who say this game isn't worth playing.... I honestly think that thats the problem, how you approach the game. I have been playing for about 3 years now, and I haven't got bored with it because I find new things to do and new ways to challenge myself. I think there are certain parts of the game that are slightly broken, but I think if you play a certain way and with a certain mindset you can easily over come them.

You may get better help if you post in DW subforums. I am sure someone would meet you in game and show you the ropes.

Welcome to the game! First off, I'm glad you're ignoring the pessimists. I mean, obviously if you pay out-of-pocket money in a free-to-play game, you're going to be the best. That's a given to all free mmorpg's.

As for wizards, they're awesome in PvE and TW (territory wars=group pvp). Psychics are also good in PvE, but they're OP in PvP (pk and TW). I actually like a wizard in pve more since, like others stated, they have a constant aoe damage effect.

Clerics are always needed. I know this because I have played a cleric and mystic. You will level easily as a cleric because you're wanted in every squad. But the higher level the squad and more OP, the less clerics are needed (in my experience). Mystics are secondary healers, but if you play right, you can heal quite as well as a cleric.

My main is a mystic, and I lvled very fast too because of the lack of clerics in squads. But even when there is a cleric in the squad, I still get picked because I can DD quite well in PvE, and I can support the squad at the same time.

Maybe you should try a mystic someday? We're sort of a jack of all trades type of character. We can do a lot of things other classes can, but not as well. We're also very, very good in PvP (and can kill Psychics or any other arcane class quite easily, if you're wondering) if you ever choose to go that route. Our weakness is we use the most mana out of any magic class, especially at lower levels. And if you ask any mystic around who has played other classes, we're probably the most challenging class to play.

Best of luck to you!b:victory

Late welcome but I only have one small piece of advice... Just play whatever class you feel like playing and like the most... Maybe a class you personally can relate to or a class you loved playing in your previous MMO (if we have it)... True some classes may get harder into squads then others but eventually there will be ppl that aren't ignorant idiots and will take less popular classes as well...

Also this game is Free to Play but Pay to Win... But if you're going pure PvE and aren't a tank or anything you can do just fine with the cheaper gear like most molds, FF and TT90 gear or a combination of those when you're higher... If you go for a PvE wizard for example just do the same and get the free weapon from the Morai quest until you can afford better (you'll sometimes get rewards of 2-5 mil for your lvl 100 daily)... It's not the best gear out there but it's acceptable... Especially when you refine it a bit and put good shards in them... If you're going for PvP however... Well you'll be spending either lot's and lot's of $$ or time...

Hope you'll enjoy the game... It has many flaws but still is really fun for a free MMO... b:cute

_Nerox_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

If you dont have decent gear no squad will want you, therefore its impossible.
Anyway, gl on farming.

"My" squad takes even people with TT80 gear.

Just because there are some elitist nerds that doesn't even consider you unless you're at least R8+ doesn't mean we are all like that.

Those are the kind of people that ruins the game not the game itself.

Rage moar

Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Welcome to the game! If you decide to play a cleric, or need general help on DW, drop me a PM on Leibniz (my archer).

Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Proving that not only archers do math since 2009.

huum huum,,,,b:chuckle

Try more then one class , get past the tutorial stage ( about lvl 30ish ) and see what you like

Don't limit yoursef but a word of advice is look up common builds so you dont **** up

like i did on my first toon, IE. Magic on my barb

MsDominatrix - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Welcome to the game!

I must tell you that first, no matter what class you play, there will always be people who tell you otherwise, so first of all is to really try the different classes. Take it from someone who knows. I have a veno, mystic, cleric, barb, seeker and this BM. I tried the BM last and guess what? I'm in love with it now. Took me 3 long years to find something I like too.

People will always tell you something suck in comparison to the other, so let me list down all the pros for each class.

Veno - incredible debuffs. Pets are capable of tanking lv 150 bosses in FF.
Mystic - versatile class, heal, summons and plants, able to support, DD, heal at higher levels.
Cleric - incredible at AOE grinding with poison mobs, heals, buffs, debuffs, and PVP is omigod.
Barb - buffs, best tank, if played right can tank almost everything, and has the option of going APS.
BM - I love the stuns, and the various AOEs. They are good at AOE grinding, and I love HF because the whole squad can stack even more damage on mobs or bosses.
Seeker - ability to tank at higher level, good AOE and mid range DD, as opposed to BM which is melee.
Wizards - nasty spells and AOE and with R8 which is easily farmable, they are SCARY. Looks at wizard friends on Friend List.

Won't say for archer, psychic or sin since I've not played them. Have fun and play the way you like.

>.> i can say with almost 100% accuracy that a well built psy is far better at AoE grinding than the bm...reasoning,the psychic has some of the fastest natural channeling in the game,quite afew good range AoE,(tons of them actually,i think the psy actually has more AoE spells than single hit spells)

and if you happen to have alot of vit adding stones on hand...fully modding all of your armor peices with vit stones(and by vit stones i mean primeval stone,and stone of the savant) with a psy,will make you indeed far better at AoE grinding than any bm ever could be :<,there is literally no arguing on this point,no way around this....the psy is better at AoE grinding

Semis_Inferi - Archosaur wrote: »

>.> i can say with almost 100% accuracy that a well built psy is far better at AoE grinding than the bm...reasoning,the psychic has some of the fastest natural channeling in the game,quite afew good range AoE,(tons of them actually,i think the psy actually has more AoE spells than single hit spells)

and if you happen to have alot of vit adding stones on hand...fully modding all of your armor peices with vit stones(and by vit stones i mean primeval stone,and stone of the savant) with a psy,will make you indeed far better at AoE grinding than any bm ever could be :<,there is literally no arguing on this point,no way around this....the psy is better at AoE grinding

Lolololol tell that to psychic who gets melee mob aggro in FC, practically dies instantly. At least the BM would have a chance! b:laugh

Lolgasmic - Raging Tide wrote: »

Lolololol tell that to psychic who gets melee mob aggro in FC, practically dies instantly. At least the BM would have a chance! b:laugh

why do you think i mentioned vit stones?im talking about damage here...>.> a psy,built well,played well, is better at AoE grinding than any bm ever in existence could be...


and also,you fail,fc is not grinding o.o,i define grinding as standing in a rapid respawn for hours and hours killing the same spawn over and over again for next to nothing in xp per mon >.> and dont challenge me on this point,i know what grinding is more than 75% of the people on here,(mainly because of three years spent on a much harder korean grinder mmo v.v)

MsDominatrix - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Welcome to the game!

I must tell you that first, no matter what class you play, there will always be people who tell you otherwise, so first of all is to really try the different classes. Take it from someone who knows. I have a veno, mystic, cleric, barb, seeker and this BM. I tried the BM last and guess what? I'm in love with it now. Took me 3 long years to find something I like too.

People will always tell you something suck in comparison to the other, so let me list down all the pros for each class.

Veno - incredible debuffs. Pets are capable of tanking lv 150 bosses in FF.
Mystic - versatile class, heal, summons and plants, able to support, DD, heal at higher levels.
Cleric - incredible at AOE grinding with poison mobs, heals, buffs, debuffs, and PVP is omigod.
Barb - buffs, best tank, if played right can tank almost everything, and has the option of going APS.
BM - I love the stuns, and the various AOEs. They are good at AOE grinding, and I love HF because the whole squad can stack even more damage on mobs or bosses.
Seeker - ability to tank at higher level, good AOE and mid range DD, as opposed to BM which is melee.
Wizards - nasty spells and AOE and with R8 which is easily farmable, they are SCARY. Looks at wizard friends on Friend List.

Won't say for archer, psychic or sin since I've not played them. Have fun and play the way you like.

Archer - Really nice ranged DD, can keep mobs away from them most of the time, don't get hit much, hard in the lower lvles but get's really good after around 60+, and in all honesty it's a pretty lazy class to play when DDing bosses...

Sin - Not much to say about it... I played it 'till lvl 75 and all I can say is that it's a light-armor overpowered DD (when played right) that can do just about anything... Sins do take agro a lot on high lvl's though, which is not really a great thing with the low HP and Defense...

Edit: And guys... You do realize that Psychics also have White Voodoo which ups their defense at the cost of magic attack right? Unlike Black Voodoo which does the opposite... Although not many psy's will agree, I think it's really useful when in a squad, with no intention of taking agro, while it even gives extra defense...