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  • SMASHnHEAL - Dreamweaver
    SMASHnHEAL - Dreamweaver Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Kanmi - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Guess i will do it then... HA Cleric losing and sacrificing healing/attack power but also magic defense . HA Cleric probably boost up your p.def but you become weak to any magic attack .
    Since you never pk, i'll give you some hint : cleric can relay on vanguard siprit/BM bell/plume shell to increase there own p.def no matter what built you chose in first place . There is one and only one relayable buff to increase your magic defense as cleric and it's magic shell . We don't have marrow like BM, nor that we can use genie skills (solid shield) like barb .
    Maybe in 1v1 agains HA/LA class you get some advantages from it (until they discover your build) , but in massive group pk i highly doubt HA Cleric can face any R9 wizzy/psy .

    You also forget that I am not limited to just wearing HA gear, I also have r9 wrists etc for added mdef if needed.
    Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »
    You should 2nd recast your wrists and get 2nd recast TT Nirvana boots instead for the 5 piece set bonus. I'd also switch out the Lunar phys ring for either a Lunar mag ring, Cloud Stir, or a CoA ring so you can get more mdef.



    @Elanxu ~ There's a difference between unconventional builds like SMASHnHEAL's and the downright stupidity that is sharding DoTs on a cleric.

    I have a full lunar HA set that is just waiting for refines and shards (JoSD) and I do have a Cloud Stir ring. Final buffed build I am looking at ~20k pdef, 13k mdef, 20+k HP and just under 80 defence levels.

    I have had a lot of fun with the build and making it all work has kept this game interesting instead of sticking to the mold and pretending to be like everyone else that think because they get full r9 they are any good.
  • Kanmi - Sanctuary
    Kanmi - Sanctuary Posts: 205 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    SMASHnHEAL - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    You also forget that I am not limited to just wearing HA gear, I also have r9 wrists etc for added mdef if needed.

    That's true, you could swap between AA/HA anytimes but let's be honest and say if you didn't have a BM and didnt want to waste the HA armor, you could just build a well geared and balanced m.def/p.def AA cleric with way more magic attack . It's not so easy to switch gears when you're ganked... cleric have better things to do .
  • SMASHnHEAL - Dreamweaver
    SMASHnHEAL - Dreamweaver Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Kanmi - Sanctuary wrote: »
    That's true, you could swap between AA/HA anytimes but let's be honest and say if you didn't have a BM and didnt want to waste the HA armor, you could just build a well geared and balanced m.def/p.def AA cleric with way more magic attack . It's not so easy to switch gears when you're ganked... cleric have better things to do .

    No arguement there. I am well aware a good geared cleric will have simliar pdef and a lot more magic attack and I did say earlier this is far from the most efficient build. Building this from scratch was the fun part and it just happens to turn out into a somewhat viable build. My cleric did come first before the BM so if I didnt have the BM I would still be running around in similiar gear - it just makes more sense now that I can share it with a farming toon.
  • Kanmi - Sanctuary
    Kanmi - Sanctuary Posts: 205 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    x) Actually i was thinking that your BM is probably really hard to kill with your cleric gears . But if you have 2 set of armor that is pretty nice xD . And even tho i'm not fan of HA cleric, you did pretty good to make it viable and make it work . b:victory
  • Elanxu - Dreamweaver
    Elanxu - Dreamweaver Posts: 521 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Kanmi - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Guess i will do it then... HA Cleric losing and sacrificing healing/attack power but also magic defense . HA Cleric probably boost up your p.def but you become weak to any magic attack .
    Since you never pk, i'll give you some hint : cleric can relay on vanguard siprit/BM bell/plume shell to increase there own p.def no matter what built you chose in first place . There is one and only one relayable buff to increase your magic defense as cleric and it's magic shell . We don't have marrow like BM, nor that we can use genie skills (solid shield) like barb .
    Maybe in 1v1 agains HA/LA class you get some advantages from it (until they discover your build) , but in massive group pk i highly doubt HA Cleric can face any R9 wizzy/psy .

    and for you to know, im not saying HA cleric is better but I am saying HA clerics have their benefits. if a regular cleric can buff themselfs for extra def so can HA clerics. they will always end up with more phys def. im simply trying to say HA clerics have plus-sides, like HP refinement from armors, and def, at the cost of other things (assuming that you dont die).

    same with DoT. at the cost of other shards, you get more damage. most people dont think the damage is worth the loss of hp/def from another shard. rarely though, every once in a while people do think it is worth it, not because they didnt do the calculation, but because they do things that you dont expect, and sets them apart from the standard cleric. DoT sucks a lot in PVP but it undeniably helps clear dungeons faster.
    the loser fail nab cleric from dreamweaver who quit pwi, but still wanders the forums.
  • Kanmi - Sanctuary
    Kanmi - Sanctuary Posts: 205 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Elanxu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    and for you to know, im not saying HA cleric is better but I am saying HA clerics have their benefits. if a regular cleric can buff themselfs for extra def so can HA clerics. they will always end up with more phys def.

    and as for magic def, HA clerics can wear arcane armors too.

    P.def is nothing when you're facing R9 wizzy or R9 psy . 90% of the time i die to caster and not from physical damage (unless i get purge by that stupid hax R9 bow) even tho i have 16k magic defense and i spam magic def charm . Simply because most AA class shard garnet and there is nothing that really increase ur m.def except magic point build . z.z
  • Elanxu - Dreamweaver
    Elanxu - Dreamweaver Posts: 521 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Kanmi - Sanctuary wrote: »
    P.def is nothing when you're facing R9 wizzy or R9 psy . 90% of the time i die to caster and not from physical damage (unless i get purge by that stupid hax R9 bow) even tho i have 16k magic defense and i spam magic def charm . Simply because most AA class shard garnet and there is nothing that really increase ur m.def except magic point build . z.z

    true that. ends up HA clerics have an easier time with the classes that you did not specify in your post, those who only atk physical damage without that hax purge, and a hard time with those you did post about.

    and i think this is starting to stray from OP, lol. my bad. b:shutup
    the loser fail nab cleric from dreamweaver who quit pwi, but still wanders the forums.
  • Ahira - Lost City
    Ahira - Lost City Posts: 791 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    SMASHnHEAL - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    You also forget that I am not limited to just wearing HA gear, I also have r9 wrists etc for added mdef if needed.



    I have a full lunar HA set that is just waiting for refines and shards (JoSD) and I do have a Cloud Stir ring. Final buffed build I am looking at ~20k pdef, 13k mdef, 20+k HP and just under 80 defence levels.

    I have had a lot of fun with the build and making it all work has kept this game interesting instead of sticking to the mold and pretending to be like everyone else that think because they get full r9 they are any good.

    Nice- i'm guessing the 20k pdef <-> 13mdef can only be done by ring switches tho?b:question
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  • Tryagain - Harshlands
    Tryagain - Harshlands Posts: 716 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    everything can be viable if you sink that much money into it.

    I'm not saying this build is good in any way - but...

    Plume shell really isn't useful at this stage of the game. Your mp goes to 0 in 1 hit. Two hits and you have 0 mp + no charm tick available.

    Magic Resistance is a lie. I still get 1-shot by r9 BIDS with 15k magic resistance.
  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Tryagain - Harshlands wrote: »
    everything can be viable if you sink that much money into it.

    Bingo. As I said in another thread (or maybe it was this one, I forget), cost is an integral factor in determining a build's utility.
    Proving that not only archers do math since 2009. b:victory
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  • SMASHnHEAL - Dreamweaver
    SMASHnHEAL - Dreamweaver Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Ahira - Lost City wrote: »
    Nice- i'm guessing the 20k pdef <-> 13mdef can only be done by ring switches tho?b:question

    I have a Cloud Stir ring that I will need to refine so yes it will be some form of a ring switch.

    Certainly not a highly recommended build but if you are like me and like to push the boundaries of what you can do with your character and don't want to be like everyone else, then your own personal 'endgame' gear can be what you choose it to be.

    (I can also switch up my orns and run around with my BMs second stage nivy axes for lols)
  • _Ghoul_ - Lost City
    _Ghoul_ - Lost City Posts: 973 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    bravo HA ep i am alredy going for it i also made my ep from lv1 to this but ya it costy but then if one can afford r9 one can afford this build.

    and heal is not that bad maybe on 40k+ hp barb but on urself its not bad and pvp can be more fun this way.

    idk why ppl complain so much did we not get past the boundry of what should be done right with the APS hipe i mean archer +all meleee who is sopused to go bow USE claws for god SAKE.

    dont give me that **** about APS being part of a barb or archer cos i dont see any mastery on those classes.


    so **** balance when there is non to be hade just play your toon the way you like

    DOS DOTs HA LA whatever as long as you understand your own build.


    this certanly beats all noob asking what class is the best bla bla bla ****

    for myself i cant wait to get cascade nv white shinning armor and shard with M.deff

    not only is it the cheaper shard but can help when a +10 HA armor refine more then a
    AA armor.

    my HEAL dont suck if ppl die its cos THEY suck b:laugh

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