** PVP drop -blue names- pick drop

krisnda · January 2012

If it's that difficult to convince others to change their PK hotspots it also just proves that most others don't think the blue names are that big of a problem either.

This however is revelent.

TolanSky - Heavens Tear · January 2012

pwiqq wrote: »

STUFF!!! TROLL!!! STUFF!!!

/unsuccessful...

You should really learn to be more subtle with your troll attempts. The people who performed the function of trolling the forum at large on a forum I used to visit did so with such grace, ease, political correctness, politeness, etc... so as to come off in such a way as to appear that they weren't actually trolling!!!

You on the other hand just made yourself look like an idiot.

Hideori - Lost City wrote: »

wise... +1

And that post was a prime example of a Wall of Text with more wall than text XD

DemansPsy - Lost City wrote: »

Ok, In your opinion, what is a good place with a lot of pkers that blue names cant get to then? (keep in mind blue names are able to get wings at low levels due to supply stash or just by being a winged elf class)

This question assumes that the problem is limited to Player vs. Player Servers such as Lost City (in which case Old Heavens Tear, Heaven, and Hell would all be valid candidates). However this is not the case. The problem is widespread enough as to be present on Player vs. Environment Servers as well where blue names can go into each of those area's, and on those servers it even affects those items dropped when a player dies due to a monster killing the player (rare as those drops may be). Further it also happens to affect people who purposefully drop items temporarily for the purpose of making space in their inventory for one reason or another.

TheUnderLord - Lost City · January 2012

TolanSky - Heavens Tear wrote: »

This question assumes that the problem is limited to Player vs. Player Servers such as Lost City (in which case Old Heavens Tear, Heaven, and Hell would all be valid candidates). However this is not the case. The problem is widespread enough as to be present on Player vs. Environment Servers as well where blue names can go into each of those area's, and on those servers it even affects those items dropped when a player dies due to a monster killing the player (rare as those drops may be). Further it also happens to affect people who purposefully drop items temporarily for the purpose of making space in their inventory for one reason or another.

1) dropping item as a white name is 1%, might as well be negligible.

2) a blue name would not stalk a white name higher level player and hope that the person is bad enough to die to a mob and be unlucky enough to drop something of high value. The blue name player wouldn't waste their time on such low probability. Doesn't make sense

3) when you drop an item from inventory, theres about 25 seconds for you to pick it back up without someone else stealing it. Want to drop it safely? Go to a safe zone.

Fintan - Lost City · January 2012

Yaknow what? At least on Lost City, most of the problem would be resolved if people stopped PvPing outside Arch's West Gate and Silver Pool.

You're PvPing in blue-name quest areas and moaning that blue names are profiting from the spoils of a war they had no part of. More than a few times, I've seen actual new players questing their mobs outside of Arch who saw something drop and immediately NPCed it because, let's face it, 20K coin is a lot when you're a new level 20ish player.

PvP where there are no blue names and the problem will likely resolve itself quite a bit. Sure, there will be people who keep blue alts to do it with, but that will take "effort". We know how lazy everyone is these days.

HirakoShinji - Raging Tide · January 2012

Nahleanna - Sanctuary wrote: »

Here's a hint DO NOT PvP then you won't have to worrie about loosing your gear DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

if you're on PvP server you cant avoid PKing.. DUHHHHHHHHHHH..

Cody_tylor - Sanctuary · January 2012

BAHAHAHAHAHAHH!!! Laughable thread. b:laughb:laughb:laugh

I take people's drops while people PK each other (I know someone in LC still crying about his mirages), and they QQ about it, really funny IMHO. I agree with you guys that its really funny where people are still butt hurt about it.

Honestly, you have chosen to go to PVP server / PK mode, expect the consequences from it whether you die or kill and something drops, it is free loot. You can never win wars, it is not meant to be pretty, it only makes you lose in the end, lives are taken, a lot of things are lost because you fight in a war whether your country win or lose the battle.

What's next? "I don't want to buy any binding charms! Please do not drop any items upon death!"

I suggest all of you QQers deal with it, or play another game.

At HirakoShinji, I never PKed anyone or anyone never PKed me and I am on lost city too...

TolanSky - Heavens Tear · January 2012

TheUnderLord - Lost City wrote: »

1) dropping item as a white name is 1%, might as well be negligible.

2) a blue name would not stalk a white name higher level player and hope that the person is bad enough to die to a mob and be unlucky enough to drop something of high value. The blue name player wouldn't waste their time on such low probability. Doesn't make sense

3) when you drop an item from inventory, theres about 25 seconds for you to pick it back up without someone else stealing it. Want to drop it safely? Go to a safe zone.

1.) You do realize even blue names have a 1% chance of dropping items when killed by non-player mobs in the game. So I am not sure what your point is here. If you are out grinding, and you get killed and you happen to be unlucky enough to drop an item and someone else is within range of you, that person is able to pick that item up.

2.) Who said anything about stalking, and see point 1.

3.) Drop an item in a safe zone such as Archosaur, and see how many people frenzy around in hopes of picking that item up XD

Mekkhala - Lost City · January 2012

I've long been a supporter of pk drops following the same rules mob drops are subject to.

The person who kills should have a slight grace period to pick up the item.

_Ghoul_ - Lost City · January 2012

THEN MOVE ELSEWHERE where no blue name can fallow to steal them as white red name you can still pk and stop qqing about it.

last i checked pwi is a big free map to use.

iff you guys complain so much but dare not look elsewhere for a new pk spot then dont qq about it.

ill go west gate when i get home grins its been some time i been blue name looking for drops.

Sirkura - Raging Tide · January 2012

i think a simple solution would be to change it so the drops can only be picked up by the party that dealed the most damage (like the mob drops). meh i don't pk i moved from harshlands to RT for a reason >.>

TolanSky - Heavens Tear · January 2012

_Ghoul_ - Lost City wrote: »

THEN MOVE ELSEWHERE where no blue name can fallow to steal them as white red name you can still pk and stop qqing about it.

last i checked pwi is a big free map to use.

iff you guys complain so much but dare not look elsewhere for a new pk spot then dont qq about it.

ill go west gate when i get home grins its been some time i been blue name looking for drops.

As I said before and will likely say umpteen thousand times again....

THIS ONLY WORKS

ON PVP SERVERS!!!

PK ALSO HAPPENS

ON PVE SERVERS!!!!

Shawnita - Dreamweaver · January 2012

QuakeX - Lost City wrote: »

idk if this is an old topic.

we pvp so epicly and alot of people make new chars keeping them blue name and will follow the pvp closely and wait for people to die to pick the drops, this is bull ****. it needs to be changed.

since blue name cant pvp make it also that they cant pick drops from pvp.

couldnt agree more with you

Jadsia - Lost City · January 2012

QuakeX - Lost City wrote: »

enough said, anything u say after that is not valid.

Funny, I'm a member of a major RPK faction who PKs anywhere and everywhere on the map and especially in the PK hotspots and never have I seen anyone in GC complain about blue names looting their PK loot.

But I digress. One does not have to a PKer to make a valid point on your issue but one that suggests that I have to be such to make a valid point just proves the weakness of their argument in the first place.

OIdpop - Heavens Tear · January 2012

you know you server is sorry when u need a pk spot..blahahahahaab:victory

_Ghoul_ - Lost City · January 2012

TolanSky - Heavens Tear wrote: »

As I said before and will likely say umpteen thousand times again....

THIS ONLY WORKS

ON PVP SERVERS!!!

PK ALSO HAPPENS

ON PVE SERVERS!!!!

that is not the problem of pwi when you can easely join a pvp server to pvp so your excuse is invalid.

and for the pkers in pvp server look for pk elsewhere as they will NOt change it as this been like this since DAY one and is such a minimal thing when player can easely move for new places to pk.

just becouse you guys are lazzy dosent mean they need to change the codex of dropping.
and for a white name to drop is so small and no gear just inventory items its not even worth talking about.

now be good little boys and girl and look elsewhere for ur pk funs.

TolanSky - Heavens Tear · January 2012

_Ghoul_ - Lost City wrote: »

that is not the problem of pwi when you can easely join a pvp server to pvp so your excuse is invalid.

and for the pkers in pvp server look for pk elsewhere as they will NOt change it as this been like this since DAY one and is such a minimal thing when player can easely move for new places to pk.

just becouse you guys are lazzy dosent mean they need to change the codex of dropping.
and for a white name to drop is so small and no gear just inventory items its not even worth talking about.

now be good little boys and girl and look elsewhere for ur pk funs.

So wait, your entire argument is that suddenly the complaints about this issue coming from servers such as Heaven's Tear, Sanctuary, Raging Tide and Lothranis are futile and invalid simply because those servers are not PvP Servers?

Well I hate to inform you but there are at current only TWO PvP Servers amongst all of the Perfect World International Servers. Where as there are a total of SEVEN Player vs. Environment Servers. And while it may be valid that PvP is more all encompassing within the confines of a PvP server, rest assured there are infinitely more people who participate in PvP on the Player vs. Environment Servers when total population of those servers is combined than there are people populating the two PvP servers in general (blue named, white named, red named or anything in between).

Just because we have to purposefully activate our PvP mode does not prevent us from participating in PvP on the Player vs. Environment Servers. Nor does it make our opinions regarding things that happen in PvP any less valid. Nor does it make the threat of item drops during PvP being picked up by blue names any less valid. The only thing it does do... is ensure that there is no where that is safe from the threat that Blue Names will pick up PvP drops, unlike you lucky people on PvP servers who can simply relocate to Heaven, Hell or OHT where people of levels lower than a specific threshold cannot enter and thus you do not have to worry about said blue names.

For reference my Seeker is level 90, he is on a PvE Server, and he is still technically Blue Named unless I personally click a button that forces me into White Named Status for at least 10 hours and forces me to risk dropping items should I get killed if I manage to get put into red named form. So you will forgive me if I have no mercy when it comes to PK'ers from the PvP Servers who feel that they are somehow better than the PK'ers from the PvE servers simply because they think that they are in some sort of elitist group simply because they choose to create their characters on one of two PvP Servers that force you into PvP mode when you hit level 30. Not all of us want to constantly live in fear of being targeted by groups such as Enrage wherever they go, thank you very much.

_Ghoul_ - Lost City · January 2012

NO it only mean most player who play pwi are not interested in pvp or pk that is it.

sure if you combine all server you might get more ppl who pk in pve server then on a pvp server.

but then if we count all the non pvp player in a pve server you guys would we at a minority.

this rule been here since day one and as nothing have been done with gooner nothing will be done with this small issue either.

so yes pvpes on a pvp server just need to look for new pk spots and the pvp who reside on a pve server will have to deal with the current system as nothing will change so stop qq and adapt as barb have to adapt to be no tank class in pwi.

_Ghoul_ - Lost City · January 2012

what pk i remember a time when pk was everywhere in the map not the current pk where all go to same old place on a blue oriented quest area qqing the blue name are stealing there drops.

FACEPALM.

BACK TO WEST GATE AS a blue name b:laugh.

hopefully ppl will learn to adapt and look elsewhere to have there pk where blue name wont gob:chuckle.

_Ghoul_ - Lost City · January 2012

OIdpop - Heavens Tear wrote: »

you know you server is sorry when u need a pk spot..blahahahahaab:victory

ppl are dumb when they cant pk in such a big scale map as pwi is but go to same place over and over againb:bye.

and trust me ppl have tried but then the same qqers for some reason dont wish to change the location saying the pk spot will get smaller with less ppl pking.

but but but b:shocked

anyways nothing will change nothing ever does so ppl have to adapt or face fact its how it is and qq less.

and one day i hope no gooner will post in the forumb:shutup

i can only wish tho b:surrender

triponoobaki · January 2012

there are 2 ways keeping your items safe:
1st safety lock
2nd the item from boutique that makes bound your items
3rd: put all your items in bank exept pots and have all your main items on you bound.
what i mean with that is: once i took a diamond of tiger when someone was red named and me blue. ofc i gave it back but he could put that diamond on the bank in order to be safe and keep just his main items bound on him self.

ZoracGallant - Raging Tide · January 2012

So many trolls and so many people that don't read the topic took me awhile to catch up to everything b:puzzled

Blue names poaching drops is obviously abusing a broken system, but there are several good options to avoid it most of which have been stated already

1) Move your pk area to somewhere the blue names can't/won't go to
Areas with lvl 30+ mobs that have high agro
Heaven or Hell No one under 89 or without culti done alowed

2) Remember the person
There is a good chance that the poachers are alts of someone else, look em up in coreconnect and figure out their main and take revenge or find out who their friends are to find out who their main is, it's not too hard to do people like to talk too much

3) Lure something fun to the area to get rid of the blue names, Jewel, Krixxix, any small boss or mob with an aoe can clear the blue names away, sure it can be bannable at times, but is what the blue names are doing really within the TOS?

4) And last but not least, The game could be fixed so no one but the pkee can picked up the pked person's drops (like that would ever happen)

** PVP drop -blue names- pick drop

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