Frankie - Male or Female?

frankieraye wrote: »

Yep that's me--

This whole gender confusion began because, when I first started at PWE to help localize the game, I was assigned a female blademaster for testing purposes. A few months later, the game went live, and the blademaster became a GM, and since players always knew my character as female, I continued the tradition with the female forum avatar.

The name FrankieRaye comes from the Marvel character known as Nova, herald to Galactus.

b:question I cant imagine why you would need that many 5hour energy drinks

Hideori - Lost City wrote: »

we know...

yeah, ur *** for putting that in her post.b:shutup

ISteaIth - Lost City wrote: »

frankie is womens

.....wut?

XxStormy - Harshlands wrote: »

Hey I met my boyfriend on this game and he is a veno named isabellab:shutupb:shocked
glad I found out he was a man Lol or I never would have got to know him and spend a week with him in vegasb:cute

OR would you have >.>


heh naa I'm just messin. b:chuckle

OMFG frankye is a man ---- you ruined my dreams -- dun't luv you anymore </3

Nazera - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Rude? How?

It's not Steven I'm referring to as a female. It's Frankieraye, the female Blademaster that I am. Steven talks through Frankieraye here on the board, who is female.

If I called Frankie a Blademaster, would it still be rude? No? Then why would it be rude calling her a female?

Why are you so offended if someone don't assign the character the same attributes that the character's IRL owner/player has? It don't make sense.

Next time you call me rude mister moderator, try to come up with a better reason.

I wasn't saying you were rude, I was saying the action itself is rude. There is a difference. I'm also not saying you can't do it, I'm just expressing my opinion on the matter of calling a male person by a female pronoun based on their avatar, even after their true gender was revealed. Take it and do with it what you will.

Nazera - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Rude? How?

It's not Steven I'm referring to as a female. It's Frankieraye, the female Blademaster that I am. Steven talks through Frankieraye here on the board, who is female.

If I called Frankie a Blademaster, would it still be rude? No? Then why would it be rude calling her a female?

Why are you so offended if someone don't assign the character the same attributes that the character's IRL owner/player has? It don't make sense.

Next time you call me rude mister moderator, try to come up with a better reason.

It would be rude calling him a female because you know that he is not a female, and by addressing this thread after a very long time, he clearly wants to people to know that he is a male. If for no other reason then to finally have rumors about his gender to be shutdown. It's one thing if you don't know, it's another entirely when you refuse to acknowledge there is a human being behind the avatars. Some people want people to know their gender, and some people don't care either way. He clearly just picked a female avatar because of a tradition that was set from his earlier days of working at the company, not because he wants to be addressed as one. I don't see what the big deal, as the female blademaster/venomancer isn't the customer support representative that is going to be helping you. The person that address the needs of the community is frankieraye, the male community manager of the forums. I say FrankieRaye because i highly doubt he wants us all calling him Steven now.



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I'm with the others. Frankie, you are definitely easy on the eyes.

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »

It would be rude calling him a female because you know that he is not a female, and by addressing this thread after a very long time, he clearly wants to people to know that he is a male.

I'm talking about Frankieraye being female, not Steven.

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »

If for no other reason then to finally have rumors about his gender to be shutdown. It's one thing if you don't know, it's another entirely when you refuse to acknowledge there is a human being behind the avatars.

That don't seem logical though. How is needing to refer to the character as the gender of the player acknowledging that there's a real human "behind" it? It doesn't make sense...

and Frankieraye isn't just an avatar on a forum, it's a test character, like she said she was.

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Some people want people to know their gender, and some people don't care either way. He clearly just picked a female avatar because of a tradition that was set from his earlier days of working at the company, not because he wants to be addressed as one. I don't see what the big deal, as the female blademaster/venomancer isn't the customer support representative that is going to be helping you. The person that address the needs of the community is frankieraye, the male community manager of the forums.

It's one thing about wanting to know what gender the person playing a character is. It's another thing referring to the character as if they are the same exact entity as the player controlling them. They're not.

There's no such thing as "Frankieraye, the male community manager of the forums", because Frankieraye is a female Blademaster. I just... I don't understand why this subject needs to be argued. Your and Fuzzy's point don't make any sense to me at all... ;_;

I'm sorry, I just don't understand... b:surrender

Someone has gender issuesb:surrender
"But mom I have a peepeeb:cry "
"I don't care you will wear the damn dress and make mommy proud when you win the beauty pagentb:angry "

KrittyCat wrote: »

A male wearing a female mask isn't referred to as female. The same applies here. The avatar you see is a "mask" of sorts... it covers his identity, yes. That, however, doesn't change the fact that he is male, and out of respect to him we should refer to him as such. You can choose not to, but again I say that such refusal is rude.

A character isn't a face mask though. It's another identity, another person. Not just a cover for one. KrittyCat is your identity on this board, just like Nazera is my current identity. But they're not just masks. We're not our IRL selves when we're on these characters.

Again, I'm not saying Steven is a female. But Frankieraye is not Steven. She's the character identity he assumes, "role plays" if you will, when he's community managing here.

Okay. I'm begining to understand this little misunderstanding here. It seems that someone doesn't have a clear definition of what's being discussed. These characters we have on this game(GM or otherwise) are not avatars(as in the game analog sense, not the message board picture sense). Avatars are computer generated versions OF the players... a character, what we have in PWI, is a fictional person or being merely being controlled by us that we take the identity of.

See this for a more detailed explanation.

Yes, I know now that you call Frankieraye a male because you're really referring to Steven, but calling HIM Frankieraye rather than actually referring to Frankieraye herself. But I'm not considering the two one being. That is where the misunderstanding started.

I'm sorry that I started this little spat, but it seemed very odd that there was even a question that Frankieraye was female or not, despite her avvy clearly displaying it. xD It was logical to me that I needed to point it out.

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frankieraye wrote: »

And as for the gender-bending character/avatar, it's not really a big deal to me whether you you refer to Frankie as a girl or a guy -- there are arguments for both sides, and all that really matters is that I'm here to help.

That's why we love you, Frankie.

Sihndra wrote: »

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What is this, I don't even...

b:shocked

Sihndra wrote: »

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b:chuckle Theres the (Saxaphone Player) to back ya up wit da intermitent tunes, at the 1960s ~(Poetry corner & Beatneck Bar)~ Sihndra........ ROFLMAO!!b:laugh


And Dat {POETRY/Verbage} Sounds COool Man....b:cool

Funnily enough, I had a feeling he was Steven when I watched that video the first time around. You are very attractive b:surrender...then again PWI has a very good looking player base, myself excluded