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  • MomoYukino - Lost City
    MomoYukino - Lost City Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    They took away TW coin pay and changed it back after a year or so. That was a pretty epic complaint thread but I have my doubts as to whether the forum response was the reason for the change. However there are plenty of things that still need fixin' like basic gameplay glitches.
  • Sagek - Sanctuary
    Sagek - Sanctuary Posts: 1,156 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    MomoYukino - Lost City wrote: »
    They took away TW coin pay and changed it back after a year or so. That was a pretty epic complaint thread but I have my doubts as to whether the forum response was the reason for the change. However there are plenty of things that still need fixin' like basic gameplay glitches.

    Can only hope that with the new exapnsion some of those things will be fixed.. Key word being hope.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Sagek - Sanctuary wrote: »
    They ever give any kind of reason as to why this is?

    Nope. My obscenely wild theory without any proof that I will state as fact is that they didn't want to lose any money people used to buy dolls... oh wait, it might be "Copy write infringement" or something. :P

    MomoYukino - Lost City wrote: »
    They took away TW coin pay and changed it back after a year or so. That was a pretty epic complaint thread but I have my doubts as to whether the forum response was the reason for the change. However there are plenty of things that still need fixin' like basic gameplay glitches.

    The complaint thread had nothing to do with it coming back. It was stated that they noticed a severe drop in TW participation by their players so it was reinstated. Of course, these changes were made and then reverted due to activity and complaints on the Chinese servers and forum. Almost nothing we actually say here really matters.
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  • Sagek - Sanctuary
    Sagek - Sanctuary Posts: 1,156 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Nope. blahblahblhahaaaadurderp

    Oh ok..b:bye

    Ps: Since you don't have any qualms about making yourself look rather foolish I just thought I would educate you a lil since education never hurt anyone.

    As-sump-tion - noun - A thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof: "they made certain assumptions about the market". or in the case of PWI, "PWI is Dead" or what you posted in the other thread, "The fact that the original devs are long gone is completely noticeable."

    What I said which you claimed was a wild assumption and are now calling a wild theory was, "Not sure, propably because of Copyright laws and such, but really I don't know. =("


    :facepalm:
    Stop being butt hurt over a simple debate that you did not win and move on, It is the adult thing to do.
  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Sagek - Sanctuary wrote: »
    To my knowledge Refinement transfers.

    This was in the game before PWI was even released. They were reluctant to add the stones to the cash shop because that would mean people could possibly spend less money.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Sagek - Sanctuary wrote: »
    blah blah blah

    Debate I didn't win?

    Dude, you're a troll. You admitted to trolling me in that thread. You said you had no intentions of having a normal conversation when you responded to me because I said something rude to someone. You're a freaking idiot. Stop contradicting yourself. Get it? Got it?

    Everything you say is wrong. Deal with it.

    /facepalm

    Devoted - Lost City wrote: »
    This was in the game before PWI was even released. They were reluctant to add the stones to the cash shop because that would mean people could possibly spend less money.

    The only reason they added them is because they promised that you would be able to transfer refines and sockets when upgrading 99 Gold to Nirvana gear when in fact they had no idea how Nirvana (the instance, the mats and how to actually craft 1st/2nd).

    It was my farming party, well Elayne, that actually taught the GMs how it did or did not work. That was hilarious.

    And they didn't allow the stones for what, two months after TB?

    And we didn't get Chienkuns the way they were designed. The original number required for specific grade transfers were the same for Nirvana as normal items and Chienkuns were supposed to sell for about the same price as Tisha or Tienkengs. The only reason one can assume they changed this is that so people with highly refined non-Nirvana gear can't easily transfer refines.

    Chienkuns were always available, or were at least available at the time the TB expansion had come out on the CN servers.

    It's pretty sad how much I know about this game. b:surrender
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  • Sagek - Sanctuary
    Sagek - Sanctuary Posts: 1,156 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Debate I didn't win?

    Dude, you're a troll. You admitted to trolling me in that thread. You said you had no intentions of having a normal conversation when you responded to me because I said something rude to someone. You're a freaking idiot. Stop contradicting yourself. Get it? Got it?

    Everything you say is wrong. Deal with it.

    /facepalm




    By saying I did not want to continue to have a conversation with you because you were resorting to insults was me trying to stop an arguement in another thread. You're the one who came into this thread and made a comment refering to another thread(Thats trolling smart guy) Just because I say something you don't agree with is not trolling. do I need to Define the meaning of trolling for you as well because it has become obvious your using words you do not understand the meaning of.

    It scares me how stupid you are actting. I hate insulting people but I feel like unless I result to name calling you just wont get it. DO YOU EVEN READ WHAT YOU POST!?

    How is everything I say wrong? NOT once have you provided a valid arguement to anything I have said. Instead you act like a freaking butt hurt little kid who is mad because someone disagrees with him.


    Yes Michael it was you who showed the GMs how their game worked.. You should pat yourself on the back this game owes you so much.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Sagek - Sanctuary wrote: »
    By saying I did not want to continue to have a conversation with you because you were resorting to insults was me trying to stop an arguement in another thread.

    /facepalm

    No, you said that you responded to me without any intent, not that you wanted to continue having a convo. Are you like, totally baked while posting or something?

    I know I'm a rude, intolerant, arrogant ****, but I'm usually right. QQme a river please.

    Seriously, you've contradicted yourself so many times.

    Rage on.
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  • Sagek - Sanctuary
    Sagek - Sanctuary Posts: 1,156 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    /facepalm

    No, you said that you responded to me without any intent, not that you wanted to continue having a convo. Are you like, totally baked while posting or something?

    I know I'm a rude, intolerant, arrogant ****, but I'm usually right. QQme a river please.

    Seriously, you've contradicted yourself so many times.

    Rage on.

    Please show me how I have contradicted myself because I seriously at this point think you do not understand the meaning of yet another word.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Sagek - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Please show me how I have contradicted myself because I seriously at this point think you do not understand the meaning of yet another word.

    You do realize the whole argument you started was because you were upset at me, not because I was wrong. And you also quoted an earlier post which I had later explained myself more completely, yet you chose to ignore that and troll away anyways.

    Then in the middle of it, you said you didn't have any intent having a convo when you originally replied.

    Make. Up. Your. Mind.

    As for that other thread, I have no idea where it went. vBulletin has this little thing called a thread indicator which has been stripped out of PWI's forums (although the rest of the games here have them). I find them useful to see if there are new posts or if I have posted in a thread previously so I can check again. I do have a life and cannot respond to every response I get, you know.

    :P
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  • Sagek - Sanctuary
    Sagek - Sanctuary Posts: 1,156 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    You do realize the whole argument you started was because you were upset at me, not because I was wrong. And you also quoted an earlier post which I had later explained myself more completely, yet you chose to ignore that and troll away anyways.

    Then in the middle of it, you said you didn't have any intent having a convo when you originally replied.

    Make. Up. Your. Mind.

    As for that other thread, I have no idea where it went. vBulletin has this little thing called a thread indicator which has been stripped out of PWI's forums (although the rest of the games here have them). I find them useful to see if there are new posts or if I have posted in a thread previously so I can check again. I do have a life and cannot respond to every response I get, you know.

    :P

    Please re-read that thread. You insulted the person who started it, I called you on it and said it was not needed. You insulted me, and from there it was just stupid back and forth(kinda like now).. You've obviously never had a debate before.. When the other party starts insulting the one they are debating they are automaticly discredited because they are not mature enough to keep their wits and have a logical conversation.

    If I ask you to provide proof then provide proof because thats a sure fire way to shut me up. But making claims like you do is not going to do anything but make me call you out.

    Yes, you have a life.. you should focus on that more.
  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    The only reason they added them is because they promised that you would be able to transfer refines and sockets when upgrading 99 Gold to Nirvana gear when in fact they had no idea how Nirvana (the instance, the mats and how to actually craft 1st/2nd).

    It was my farming party, well Elayne, that actually taught the GMs how it did or did not work. That was hilarious.

    And they didn't allow the stones for what, two months after TB?

    And we didn't get Chienkuns the way they were designed. The original number required for specific grade transfers were the same for Nirvana as normal items and Chienkuns were supposed to sell for about the same price as Tisha or Tienkengs. The only reason one can assume they changed this is that so people with highly refined non-Nirvana gear can't easily transfer refines.

    Chienkuns were always available, or were at least available at the time the TB expansion had come out on the CN servers.

    It's pretty sad how much I know about this game. b:surrender

    I think we have more than enough proof of PWI's incompetency for sagek right here with chienkuns. I'd like to add that chienkuns have existed since vanilla PW2 and were on the MY-EN version from the get go (sept 2007) at almost 1/4th PWI's price.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Sagek - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Please re-read that thread. You insulted the person who started it, I called you on it and said it was not needed. You insulted me, and from there it was just stupid back and forth(kinda like now).. You've obviously never had a debate before.. When the other party starts insulting the one they are debating they are automaticly discredited because they are not mature enough to keep their wits and have a logical conversation.

    If I ask you to provide proof then provide proof because thats a sure fire way to shut me up. But making claims like you do is not going to do anything but make me call you out.

    Yes, you have a life.. you should focus on that more.

    I've never had a debate before? LMAO

    I asked you THREE times to specifically rebuke what I had said. You just used the word "stuff" too many times.

    I feel like I'm talking to an adolescent child who babbles a lot of words but doesn't know exactly what they're saying.

    If you can't say what you mean, how can you mean what you say.

    Devoted - Lost City wrote: »
    I think we have more than enough proof of PWI's incompetency for sagek right here with chienkuns. I'd like to add that chienkuns have existed since vanilla PW2 and were on the MY-EN version from the get go (sept 2007) at almost 1/4th PWI's price.

    I didn't know Malaysia had them, but I knew CN did.

    And as for pricing, that sounds right. If you do the math and compare normal transfers to Nirvana transfers, you'll see PWI got crafty and made normal transfers as expensive as refining a new piece (at old orb prices) by increasing the cost of the Chienkuns and lowering the amount you needed for Nirvana.

    So, if this were any other version, refine transfers of any gear would be relatively inexpensive, which obviously would cut their profit margin.
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  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Oh and refining with them was awesome back on my-en.
  • Sagek - Sanctuary
    Sagek - Sanctuary Posts: 1,156 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    I've never had a debate before? LMAO

    I asked you THREE times to specifically rebuke what I had said. You just used the word "stuff" too many times.

    I feel like I'm talking to an adolescent child who babbles a lot of words but doesn't know exactly what they're saying.

    If you can't say what you mean, how can you mean what you say.

    Dude, I provide you one example in this thread about how you were making an assumption! Talk about selective reading. I mean I posted a defianiton and what you said that I called an assumption... what else would you like me to provide? Just because I didn't sit there and pin point where you were assuming **** doesn't mean you weren't assuming ****, in that instance you were assuming so much I didn't feel like wasting my time pointing everything out.

    Your turn, provide some proof of your claims.

    @Devoted: Ok so maybe Refinement Transfers were not implamented because of player suggestion. It still doesn't mean that player suggestions have not been implamented into the game in the past year.
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    what is this another micheal/sagek thread >>;
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  • Tatuaje - Lost City
    Tatuaje - Lost City Posts: 2,780 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »
    what is this another micheal/sagek thread >>;

    I think they secretly have a crush on eachother. That's there so much fire between the two of them.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    On pw-cn chienkun were always priced at the same price as a dragon orb so it's hard for using them to make much sense with PWI prices.
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Sagek - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Dude, I provide you one example in this thread about how you were making an assumption! Talk about selective reading. I mean I posted a defianiton and what you said that I called an assumption... what else would you like me to provide? Just because I didn't sit there and pin point where you were assuming **** doesn't mean you weren't assuming ****, in that instance you were assuming so much I didn't feel like wasting my time pointing everything out.

    Your turn, provide some proof of your claims.

    @Devoted: Ok so maybe Refinement Transfers were not implamented because of player suggestion. It still doesn't mean that player suggestions have not been implamented into the game in the past year.

    Why am I even bothering with someone who can't even spell implemented correctly.


    Real life problem of mine right now, the biggest one:

    Should I drop a GM crate LS7 into my Jag for 500bwhp or should I just upgrade to twin **** turbo for 550-600... hmmm....

    God, life sucks. b:cry


    And... proof of what claims?

    Sure, my proof: "because I know stuff". Since you think that's some magical word that describes everything you're trying to make counterclaims on.

    b:bye
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  • Sagek - Sanctuary
    Sagek - Sanctuary Posts: 1,156 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Why am I even bothering with someone who can't even spell implemented correctly.


    Real life problem of mine right now, the biggest one:

    Should I drop a GM crate LS7 into my Jag for 500bwhp or should I just upgrade to twin **** turbo for 550-600... hmmm....

    God, life sucks. b:cry

    ...This coming from a guy who spells copyright, copy write....
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Sagek - Sanctuary wrote: »
    ...This coming from a guy who spells copyright, copy write....

    I was quoting you, hence why I put it in quotation marks.

    Seriously, I doubt if you even know the difference between copyright and trademarks.

    b:bye
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  • Sagek - Sanctuary
    Sagek - Sanctuary Posts: 1,156 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    I was quoting you, hence why I put it in quotation marks.

    Seriously, I doubt if you even know the difference between copyright and trademarks.

    b:bye

    Try me.
  • krittycat
    krittycat Posts: 4,187 Community Moderator
    edited January 2012
    How about I end this fight before it gets people banned?

    Closed.
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