Easy beginner class?

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  • DuckTapez - Archosaur
    DuckTapez - Archosaur Posts: 855 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    haseon373 wrote: »
    There is no true easy class if you want a great class that levels fast get the class that matches your personality that way time flys you have fun and before you no it your a high level. Correct?

    fair enough, but there are always classes that are considered by the general public to be harder to play at low levels just because of the way the class is set up
    here they are in a nutshell:

    Barbs: very, very low accuracy (that, frankly, doesn't get too much better)
    add that to low attack and high repair fee...nightmare at low levels with those grinding quests

    Wizards: squishy and slow channel makes them hell at low levels
    so hell that it's recommended to start off with LA even

    Assassins: dex-based classes always have a hard time at low levels because much of their damage comes from critical hits, which takes a long time to build up, plus there's always the whole APS gear thing to contend with
    squishy and dies very easily at low levels, albeit being one of the easier classes to play later on (TW is a different story)

    Archers: personal favourite xD another dex-based class
    again, squishy
    what makes them even worse than Sins imo is the way range affects their damage
    at low levels, when you are unable to kill a mob before it gets close, damage gets reduced and aggravates the problem
    almost didn't make it to level 19 b:shocked can't live without your knockback

    there are other classes that aren't too great at lower levels (seekers, psychics, BMs depending on which path you choose) but they really don't get any worse than the 4 listed above, don't think

    again, all in the name of SHARING OPINION, if someone disagrees with something then by all means share it, but don't take it any further than that b:surrender
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  • Jin_Wang - Lost City
    Jin_Wang - Lost City Posts: 109 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    AnnBlackfire - Archosaur wrote: »
    Veno is no beginner class, since you need to keep track of food and keep your pet alive, no pet is death for the veno. Meaning to many things to keep track of.

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    You were (or still are?) a level 37 newbie, we all were there too. On top of that, you may have never played a werefox I assume. My beginner class was a weretiger, I have not accumulated as much coin as other classes because of low damage compared to others (tiger form gets even less damage as you level, while gaining more HP and movement speed bonus to balance it)... I wouldn't say that is the last class for beginners (archers are most likely consuming the most coin at beginner levels)

    You have no idea what a werefox is capable of. Werefox have it more than 10 times as easy, even more cheaper than every other class. At your level, I could just make pet do all the work and i sit there and meditate, that is how easy those levels are for werefox, you could just smack in a heal every 3-5 mobs maybe more than that. They do not even need their pets once you know how to play, it takes little thought to use a werefox because of the pet not taking much damage at all at that level.

    Healing pet problems? Do you visit the skill master some time? Apparently you seem that you have not done that, or maybe you have kept your heal pet at level 1 and not know that pet skill trainer lets you learn another set of skills too. Even if your heal pet is level 1... Pet alone could solo the mobs at beginner level anyway (pre-level 40)... I have no problem healing my pet at all, I can solo dungeon mobs with and certain instances while I am a pure melee werefox, and all I mainly do is auto attack and pet heal (my pets are Undine princess, Glacial walker, Eldergoth Sharpshooter and Foxwing supreme), click on this link for my build and gear, not the best gear.

    http://pwcalc.com/5d69c4129a367522

    Many things to keep track of? Again, you have yet to do quests that that requires squads. Wait till you level to 40 or get that quest for Kirixx, not newbie friendly for your culti. It gets more responsibility and more challenging as you go at later levels and more things to keep track of than you think.

    Pet food expenses...? As you have been told, even though it is a slight mislead, 52 coins for each pet water every 5 minutes, 100 of those would be 5,200, which is 500 minutes, compared to repair bills at my level for my barb around 15,000+ for 60+ I even get a 15k-25k bill at that level tanking in ONE instance for less time where veno could just spend around 5k on bills. You don't need to bother repairing below level 30 because you gain levels rather quickly. I do agree that certain pet food for certain pets (legendary pets) require meat / cookies which costs rather expensive for 5 minutes each. Yet, people would get tome by then.

    Werefoxes are not even dependent on pets if you build them properly, to me, it feels like playing on a warrior with swords, but much more easy (leech HP and befuddling mist). I can even tank if I wanted to without a charms without pets. Again, you are a new gamer, I do not go against barbarians or any other class as a beginner class, all about your playstyle.



    On topic:
    I do recommend werefoxes as a beginner class because they require the least money all around from the beginning to endgame and reap the best benefits all around. For starters and gaining good enough coin for your other characters, this one is a good choice. I personally find this class pretty boring all around. If you find this class fun, great for you. If not, just bother reaping the benefits of getting potion drops, arrow drops (if you prefer archer) oracle drops, authentic work drops, scroll drops, low bills which can make you accumulate a lot of things.
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  • DuckTapez - Archosaur
    DuckTapez - Archosaur Posts: 855 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Jin_Wang - Lost City wrote: »
    I do recommend werefoxes as a beginner class because they require the least money all around from the beginning to endgame and reap the best benefits all around.

    do agree that venos are one of the cheaper classes to play, but are they really the cheapest? O.o what with the legendary pets and all
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  • Jin_Wang - Lost City
    Jin_Wang - Lost City Posts: 109 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    DuckTapez - Archosaur wrote: »
    do agree that venos are one of the cheaper classes to play, but are they really the cheapest? O.o what with the legendary pets and all

    Legendary pets are a plus, not really necessary. I may not have not played a veno beyond level 85 yet, but so far I have no problems with my glacial walker and eldergoth sharpshooter, my magic power is not all that great either (LA melee here). I do have a LVL93 veno (100 cleric main) friend that does usually use sharptooth wolfing pet and she does fine without hercules / phoenix.
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  • DuckTapez - Archosaur
    DuckTapez - Archosaur Posts: 855 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Jin_Wang - Lost City wrote: »
    Legendary pets are a plus, not really necessary. I may not have not played a veno beyond level 85 yet, but so far I have no problems with my glacial walker and eldergoth sharpshooter, my magic power is not all that great either (LA melee here). I do have a LVL93 veno (100 cleric main) friend that does usually use sharptooth wolfing pet and she does fine without hercules / phoenix.

    i point that out cuz there's been way too many complaints going around that it's impossible to compete as a veno without legendary pets these days b:surrender PW be screwed up yo
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  • Jin_Wang - Lost City
    Jin_Wang - Lost City Posts: 109 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    DuckTapez - Archosaur wrote: »
    i point that out cuz there's been way too many complaints going around that it's impossible to compete as a veno without legendary pets these days b:surrender PW be screwed up yo

    Ah yes that, I know some people that actually play venoes with both of the legendary pets, they did say the only way to compete as a veno is to have legendary pets. It actually depends how you use your pet, sometimes it is best to have a de-buffing / assist pet which comes in handy. At least so far as I have been playing and hearing from some sage/demon cultivation rank venoes without legendary pets.
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  • SwiftXShadow - Harshlands
    SwiftXShadow - Harshlands Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    AnnBlackfire - Archosaur wrote: »
    well I coudl address the obvious answer, but you should see that part yourself before it's too late.

    I'd say you need for each class enough focus to work them out properly. So from that perspective it would be not wise to start with any form of pets or summons. So Mystic and Venomancer are not really for you then.

    Cleric and Archer may have the advange of flying, but have their disadvantages as well. Where Clerics need to stay on distance since they are worthless in melee battles, the Archer is bound to depleting ammo (bolts/arrows). No ammo = no way of fighting. So likely out of the question as well.

    Blademasters are often used as starter things to learn the game a bit, but later on can be weaker and often need aid from others for the most simple tasks if not used properly.

    I'd say go for Barbarian, these hardly use any skills while in 'True form'. Which is that tiger form. Only buffs mostly and a few simple skills. Should be the best choice to start out I guess.

    LOL that had to be the WORST replie ever.


    Venos are one of the EASYEST classes, great for money farming if u get a reasoneble pet

    Clerics melee worthless lol what? dosnt matter ranged or melee rly, melee makes it EASYER then u can KITE

    Archers and arrows... lol i bet every archer rruns out of them every second battle u can stack tens of thousands of them!

    BM needs help , weak? REALlY L O L!
    BM is one of the STRONGEST solo classes


    Barb easyest, best begginer calss? ofcourse one of the MOST EXPENSIVE ONES
  • sangodoc
    sangodoc Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    AnnBlackfire - Archosaur wrote: »
    I checked all PWI servers, there was nothing at all on the missing characters. All that I have now are newly made ones. Yes, it could be possible that mine are either on the Chinese servers or on some other server. I just checked the PWI servers itself. However it may be, It's kinda very odd that they are gone.
    If that's the case, then most likely you created a second account. You might want to see if you can recall a different username you might have originally logged in under.
    AnnBlackfire - Archosaur wrote: »
    For the rest, well I may be getting upset quickly but I do have my reasons. How would you feel if no one tried to understand your point of view, except from when you get upset. it's not the smartest thing to blindly call out things while someone else may have a valid point.
    When that happens to me, I don't let them see me get upset, I just come back with evidence an logic to back me up, and I try to show the flaws in their arguments. That is, unless I take a closer look at their arguments and realize that I'm the one who is in error. In that case I try to own up to my mistake and learn from it.
    AnnBlackfire - Archosaur wrote: »
    @Alex_Gantz - Dreamweaver
    thank you, thats 1 more that sees the point. Veno's aint as strong as people think, kill the veno and the pet will not be healed anymore. Likely die soon after as well. Sins are in fact also a pretty strong starter unit, can work solo and specially later on can be powerfull and also PvP. PvP and veno's are not so good friends indeed. Sins may be hard for some early on, but first 20 levels are pretty easy if you do it the right way. Same for the rest, any character require planning. Not blindly grinding and fly trough the quests.
    I'm going to have to agree with BerserkBeast in his reply to this part.

    No, pets do not survive after their owner dies. I don't know what you think you saw, but it was not as you recall it. I play my veno more than any of the other classes, and I can guarantee you that the pet vanishes as soon as the veno controlling it dies. (And after the messed up FC I had a few days ago with the tank that couldn't keep aggro off the cleric, I died a couple of times trying to save the cleric with AoEs, and can confirm my pet vanished immediately each time. That was a bad time to run out of HP food. b:surrender )

    If you don't believe me, simply pay careful attention the next time you see a veno die. The pet will always fade out right after that and go back to the veno's pet bag. The "fade out" takes a moment, but that's not the same as it dying (there's a "fall over" animation for pet deaths, not a "fade out").
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