Skill Upgrades

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  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Standing stealth? For an Assassin, does going into stealth in the middle of combat take aggro off of you?


    Now if this skill gave you two sparks just for casting it...
  • FiveAps - Dreamweaver
    FiveAps - Dreamweaver Posts: 203 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Dylena - Raging Tide wrote: »
    This is the info I got, Wizzy I forgot what it was but it was something kinda lame.

    wow...
    nothing there and nothing good for wizards anyway...
    and ppl ask me why I don't play my wizard. What for? lol.
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  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Veno skill reminds of spiritmaster fear in a1on. Oh god how broken that skill is.
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Psychic's swap reminds me of Nether Swap from DoTA...

    Some skills here certainly have more impact than others...like the swap lol
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  • PheosNyx - Sanctuary
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    @ Dylena - Where did you get that info from? I hardly believe PW would be creative enough to add "frog" to the venomancer's repetoire unless they were just reusing the coding from Jungle Ruins. I also don't believe they would give archers stealth, which by your description, would only be useful for afking in jail in cube. I can believe they would only give mystics aoe res coz, ya know, they ain't very creative. If you're right though, I'm going to have to start teaching my wizard thundaga.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Ya where is this info coming from? I heard archer is getting range + crit buff, that wiz was getting 'turn back time' skill, that the swap skill was on seeker and psychic was getting a seal.

    I can't navigate the expansion site though.. its too confusing.
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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    @ Dylena - Where did you get that info from? I hardly believe PW would be creative enough to add "frog" to the venomancer's repetoire unless they were just reusing the coding from Jungle Ruins. I also don't believe they would give archers stealth, which by your description, would only be useful for afking in jail in cube. I can believe they would only give mystics aoe res coz, ya know, they ain't very creative. If you're right though, I'm going to have to start teaching my wizard thundaga.

    Actually... that type of archer stealth is probably even more deadly then sin stealth... in terms of TW. Its good bye for every cata cleric if any of the heavy DD archers get pass enemy lines. Just consider the ramifications of when there is no way to detect an stealth archer... who is just sitting there waiting for your front line to pass before picking off every last support cleric. The 15 seconds of immunity between ironguard/domain is going to be like a life time for any clerics caught on the wrong end of the arrow.

    With that being said... I doubt we'll be getting stealth of any kind.
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  • Dylena - Raging Tide
    Dylena - Raging Tide Posts: 1,416 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    @ Dylena - Where did you get that info from? I hardly believe PW would be creative enough to add "frog" to the venomancer's repetoire unless they were just reusing the coding from Jungle Ruins. I also don't believe they would give archers stealth, which by your description, would only be useful for afking in jail in cube. I can believe they would only give mystics aoe res coz, ya know, they ain't very creative. If you're right though, I'm going to have to start teaching my wizard thundaga.
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Ya where is this info coming from? I heard archer is getting range + crit buff, that wiz was getting 'turn back time' skill, that the swap skill was on seeker and psychic was getting a seal.

    I can't navigate the expansion site though.. its too confusing.

    A faction member posted it on our forums that came from Chinese server, she said they erased it due to "wanting to announce it by themselves". It should be announced at new year from my understanding but since it came from Chinese players, it might not be 100% accurate, taking the fact that the Devs took the time to deleted it might be right and that will be the upcoming update for 2012.

    The way I understood stealth is, its undetectable BUT we cant move or attack without losing it, the amount of time we can stay invisible, I have no idea or how fast the cast time is.
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  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Dylena - Raging Tide wrote: »
    The way I understood stealth is, its undetectable BUT we cant move or attack without losing it, the amount of time we can stay invisible, I have no idea or how fast the cast time is.

    Hurray for uselessness!!

    We better get two damn sparks out of that skill.
  • PheosNyx - Sanctuary
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    At Kiyoshi - Lol, no it wouldn't be good coz we cant do anything while in stealth as the description says. At Asty - Turn back time O.o Like how so?
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    You can't do anything in stealth or stealth will break...so the idea would be to pop some immunity, kill off all their clerics from the back, and who cares what happens after that. Easier access to your priority targets.

    Cleric's survival varies a lot...a cleric that is prepared can take a lot of damage with shell/guardian light/pills/genies etc...

    The same cleric could die in 2 hits...so being able to attack clerics from unexpected angles would help a lot.
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  • PheosNyx - Sanctuary
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    That would be neat Quil, but how are we supposed to get behind the enemy when moving breaks stealth as it is described? I hardly think stealthing and standing around waiting for a cata cleric to show up would be more useful than attacking like normal.
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  • Thoaster - Raging Tide
    Thoaster - Raging Tide Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    That skill would be a nightmare for clerics as well as anyone else. Like Quilue said, there's a big difference between going up against a cleric with her shields up and catching one off guard. Although I don't see this being any better than a 105 sin in stealth besides the range advantage. But then archers would have to hidetail it away while sins can just force stealth.

    It would be cool to be ambush by a squad of ninja archers though. xD
  • PheosNyx - Sanctuary
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    http://w2i.wanmei.com/#mifachuanshuo_5 doesn't look like stealth to me :B
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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    That would be neat Quil, but how are we supposed to get behind the enemy when moving breaks stealth as it is described? I hardly think stealthing and standing around waiting for a cata cleric to show up would be more useful than attacking like normal.

    Really... are you that dense... even after reading quilue's post?

    I won't need to move to get behind enemy lines. All I need is to stand somewhere and watch the enemy pass me. After the front line passes... all i need is to pop domain/ironguard combo for 15 sec immunity. With a +12 r9 bow and 100 attack levels... I can easily drop every last support cleric if none of them have shell on.
    Thoaster - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Although I don't see this being any better than a 105 sin in stealth besides the range advantage.

    The difference is the archer won't need to be in melee range. As formation goes... there is little defense 30+ meter behind support clerics... most of the BM guard is usually within 10 meters of said cleric. 20 meters is a lot of room to cover when there is r9 archers about.
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  • Noveriot - Heavens Tear
    Noveriot - Heavens Tear Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    http://w2i.wanmei.com/#mifachuanshuo_5 doesn't look like stealth to me :B

    OMG, it sooo is. If you watch carefully, at the beginning of the video, the archer is solid. At the end, he is slightly transparent and you can see the color of the building through his body. UNF.
  • Paolo_Silver - Sanctuary
    Paolo_Silver - Sanctuary Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    I think Psys are the ones that got stealth o.o
  • Dylena - Raging Tide
    Dylena - Raging Tide Posts: 1,416 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    http://w2i.wanmei.com/#mifachuanshuo_5 doesn't look like stealth to me :B

    interesting, I guess the ones I got were inaccurate. Is it just me or all those things used as a buff because I don't see them hitting anything. b:surprised
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  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    i wannt skills that help me kite better rather than skills that help me not be seen while i am afk :l
  • PheosNyx - Sanctuary
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    No Kiyoshi, I am not dense. But if you are rank 9, you would be more useful out actively fighting than standing around waiting for five minutes for a cleric to pass. They also never said anything about enemy archers not being able to see you, so if you wanna be fodder and just stand around, that's cool. Not my charm gettin wasted, yo. N tbh, I'm kind of worried if you can't drop a cleric with shell on, because my friend with only r9 +11 bow(no atk/def level bonus) can kill my pure clerics shell in under three hits.

    Edit: not to mention that as a cata cleric, because of sins I have shell right back on as soon as it cools. Any good cleric won't be caught without it on, even when no one is around. Plus, if a cleric has shell on, you can effectively (or should be able to at least with your gear) kill his or her mana faster than a charm can cool or herb can refill it - negating the clerics ability to heal him or herself or anyone else in his or her squad.

    Also, can't R9 bow purge shell...?
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  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Also, can't R9 bow purge shell...?

    Thats whats so amazing about purge, if u got a cleric desperately trying to survive, shelled, self healing, full buffed, ETC... that purge can take off all their buffs, their shell, and also whatever heals they are attempting to stack >:D
  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    No Kiyoshi, I am not dense. But if you are rank 9, you would be more useful out actively fighting than standing around waiting for five minutes for a cleric to pass.

    If i can stand for 5 minutes and kill 10 clerics... pretty sure I or any other archers would do it. But then again... we don't get the chance to TW in slow motion. TW can be won in more or less 5 minutes on HT. Never knew that it takes clerics the same amount of time to pass b5.
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I'm kind of worried if you can't drop a cleric with shell on, because my friend with only r9 +11 bow(no atk/def level bonus) can kill my pure clerics shell in under three hits.

    **** archer targeting **** clerics does not make him any less ****. If he only have +11 r9 and no r9 set attack levels... I'll easily have 2-3k+ more p.atk and 30-40 more attack levels... so per shot wise... I'll do more damage regardless. If I can't kill a target in three hits... and he can... only conclusion is that he is targeting **** targets. r9 clerics would easily have over 10k hp... even shell-less that might take more then 3 shots. Shelled... its next to impossible without purge. To killed a shelled cleric with 3 shots... the archer would need to deplete the 10k+ mp and then hit the hp (within 5 seconds). Assuming the archer deals 5k damage per hit... the cleric can't have much more then 5k hp.... again we are back at **** clerics. And I can tell you this... even +12 full r9 dot archers CANNOT guarantee 5k damage every shot on decked out r9 clerics.
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Edit: not to mention that as a cata cleric, because of sins I have shell right back on as soon as it cools. Any good cleric won't be caught without it on, even when no one is around.

    Take a look at your own server's tw vid... and then come back and tell me that they all have shell on.

    PheosNyx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Plus, if a cleric has shell on, you can effectively (or should be able to at least with your gear) kill his or her mana faster than a charm can cool or herb can refill it - negating the clerics ability to heal him or herself or anyone else in his or her squad.

    Stop working off assumptions. mp charm is 5 second cool down. Which means your first shot is essentially wasted ticking the mp charm. Your next two shots need to deal more then the cleric's 10k mp pool... and tick the cleric's hp charm (5k+ damage on a 10k hp cleric). and hopefully the final two shots would make the kill before mp charm ticks again. I would be surprised if any archer can claim that they single handedly killed a +10 r9 shelled cleric.

    PheosNyx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Also, can't R9 bow purge shell...?

    Really? We are now depending on a 8% change of purge?
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Actively fighting what is the question.

    There's a lot of heavies and DDs in front, so you can spend all that time fighting, and not make any real progress. You can have clerics up to 28m behind stacking and ressing well-geared players. So what's easier? Killing a stacked targets first, then the cleric, or the other way around?

    Once the important clerics fall, the cats fall, and everything in between no longer has purpose for being there. Then you can take your time and pick off everyone else. If archers could gank from stealth it would be ridiculous.
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  • PheosNyx - Sanctuary
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Well first of all you have to pick a lane to stand in and you have to hope you choose the right one - unless you're actively speaking with the scout. Secondly, if there are archers with the oncoming group defending the cata barbs that can see you, you've just been made.

    Regardless if I am "****" or not, I still have almost 10k mp which is gone in under three hits with shell on from my friend. Nice flaming btw (because hurling insults makes your argument so much more intelligent than mine). FYI - because you have more of everything as you claim, you shouldn't be having the issues you're describing unless the cleric is full r9 +12 josd or garnet gem sharded.

    Just because some people on my server don't play their class(es) as well as someone else does not mean that the whole server is stupid. What faction were you even looking at? So if I find one stupid TW video from HT server that makes all the people on your server horrible players, huh?

    Which assumptions are you talking about? Me assuming your damage is high? Because with 100 attack levels it better be. FYI, most clerics aren't r9, only the CSers and super dedicated merchants are. I'm not sure how heavily HT server is filled with those two types of people, but they're usually a smaller percentage of the player population. You do have squad-mates, ask for an assist if necessary.

    Not depending on the purge btw, just a bonus.

    Quil brings up a more viable argument in his post about the distance being a problem, but assuming you don't get tagged first, flying is always an option, as is holy-pathing. Adding to this, if Asty is right and we're getting a range buff, it's going to be less of a problem. If you're sage it will be even less of a problem.

    Since we're obviously not getting stealth this argument is simply moot anyway. Now if we were able to move while stealthing I would agree that it would be useful, but like I said - you're more useful attacking like normal. Even if you cant solo some people you can help by ticking their charms which would allow a squad-mate to get in a fatal hit while the charm is cooling.
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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Well first of all you have to pick a lane to stand in and you have to hope you choose the right one - unless you're actively speaking with the scout. Secondly, if there are archers with the oncoming group defending the cata barbs that can see you, you've just been made.

    How hard do you think its to pick a lane with 2+ catas. The only way to miss that is to not see that 500lb guy standing 2 feet away from you... that is about to hug you.
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Regardless if I am "****" or not, I still have almost 10k mp which is gone in under three hits with shell on from my friend.

    1. So... it takes 3 shots to hit 10mp. Cleric on my side also have 10k hp. There is very few archers that can pull off 6 shots in 5 seconds. And this is assuming the cleric is doing nothing else... and probably charmless.
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    most clerics aren't r9

    I can't name a single cleric in my guild that isn't r9... and my information a good few months old. The same applies to wizard and BMs. There might be a single archer who isn't r9 in my guild.
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  • Aesthor - Heavens Tear
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,845 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    How hard do you think its to pick a lane with 2+ catas. The only way to miss that is to not see that 500lb guy standing 2 feet away from you... that is about to hug you.



    1. So... it takes 3 shots to hit 10mp. Cleric on my side also have 10k hp. There is very few archers that can pull off 6 shots in 5 seconds. And this is assuming the cleric is doing nothing else... and probably charmless.



    I can't name a single cleric in my guild that isn't r9... and my information a good few months old. The same applies to wizard and BMs. There might be a single archer who isn't r9 in my guild.

    You don't know many clerics :P Our director isn't even r9!
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  • PheosNyx - Sanctuary
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    You don't know many clerics :P Our director isn't even r9!

    Hehe. XD

    -and, most clerics I know play mana-charmless because herb is just cheaper to live by if you've not got a lot of cash. Like I said in my post, I don't know the r9 population of HT, but I was saying based on Sanc.

    Edit: My friend who is an archer has 1.00 aps with a bow w/o spark or anything [I dont remember if that was with or without aps orns]. With windshield or quickshot archers can achieve 6 hits in 5 seconds.
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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    You don't know many clerics :P Our director isn't even r9!

    i didn't know we got a director. and other then that one veno... my active friend list is 100% r9.... whenever they do get on.
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Hehe. XD

    -and, most clerics I know play mana-charmless because herb is just cheaper to live by if you've not got a lot of cash. Like I said in my post, I don't know the r9 population of HT, but I was saying based on Sanc.

    all i can say... is that you got some poor *** clerics.
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Edit: My friend who is an archer has 1.00 aps with a bow w/o spark or anything [I dont remember if that was with or without aps orns]. With windshield or quickshot archers can achieve 6 hits in 5 seconds.

    Full r9 archers does not get 1 aps with a bow... I don't think it'll even break .9aps even with tome/cape... so its with -int gear. I can drop 6 shots on an afk duo charmless and shelled cleric and still not guarantee a kill with my full r9 set with +12 bow. There is absolutely no point for you to argue that an +11 r9 bow without set can do it... at least not on the same cleric.

    Granted I can probably find the same caliber of cleric on HT as you are or are accustomed to. But people I can one/two shot does not keep my attention for long.
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    2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
    3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.

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  • PheosNyx - Sanctuary
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Care to donate some money to the cause then?

    Why do you only friend R9s? I know several people that can own r9s any day even though they aren't R9 themselves.

    You can still get decent aps with a bow as R9. Demon spark/quickshot or relentless courage/windshield (genie skill). You should still be able to pull it off.

    Regardless of your limited exposure to the poorer population, we are still out there and still are the majority on any server.

    Like I said before, your lack of faith on your full R9 worries me.
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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Care to donate some money to the cause then?

    Guess everything these days require some sort of hand out or donation. Gone are the days where people actually depend on themselves.
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Why do you only friend R9s? I know several people that can own r9s any day even though they aren't R9 themselves.

    I friend similar minded/competitive people. I never friend anyone who already had their r9... they all went on my list long before r9 was out. Hell... 90% of them was on before we exchange tokens for rep for our r8s. And a good 50% was on before we got our tt90s. It just happen to work out that they are all r9 now.
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You can still get decent aps with a bow as R9. Demon spark/quickshot or relentless courage/windshield (genie skill). You should still be able to pull it off.

    Got your head out of the aps's ***. Not everything is about aps. Doesn't matter how fast you can deliver the hit... if your damage isn't there... its still not enough. Go out and duel some r9 cleric and hit him six times... since its a duel you'll have all the time in the world to get your 6 shots in. Come back and tell me if the cleric is still alive. I am here to tell you... in a duel with +10 r9 clerics (those that the gear level that i see in tw)... I can nail him 6 times... and there is a good chance that he'll still be standing... if fully buffed and no purges. The whole problem only get more troublesome when the cleric is duo charmed and pots/def charms.
    PheosNyx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Like I said before, your lack of faith on your full R9 worries me.

    Why would I have faith in my gear itself... its all meaningless if I don't know the limitations. Only an idiot would mindless charge in to any pk without first knowing the capability of his gear. I have faith in myself knowing that I know how to use my gear... and its damage potential. And not just blindly triple spark/quickshot/genie and wonder why that cleric isn't dead after 3 hits.

    I fight people with similar (or better) gears as me... sometimes even when I am at a class disadvantage. There is something called skills timing and distance control... and not just face plant and pray that your gear out-match theirs.
    1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
    2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
    3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.

    Tokichiro - Heavy Armor Fish / Kiyoshi - Dual Blade Elf

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